[quote]therajraj wrote:
tell me gun guys, how realistic was that shootout?
Seems pretty weird that a bunch of trained marksmen couldn’t hit anyone with so many bullets fired[/quote]
Yeah that’s Hollywood though. I mean Todd’s uncles all had pretty steady position on the trucks and with an auto shotgun there is no way that Hank and Gomez get behind the vehicle in time.
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
tell me gun guys, how realistic was that shootout?
Seems pretty weird that a bunch of trained marksmen couldn’t hit anyone with so many bullets fired[/quote]
Yeah that’s Hollywood though. I mean Todd’s uncles all had pretty steady position on the trucks and with an auto shotgun there is no way that Hank and Gomez get behind the vehicle in time.[/quote]
This is probably very realistic.
Most people cannot hit a moving target if their life depends on it, so, if he misses the first shot?
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
tell me gun guys, how realistic was that shootout?
Seems pretty weird that a bunch of trained marksmen couldn’t hit anyone with so many bullets fired[/quote]
Yeah that’s Hollywood though. I mean Todd’s uncles all had pretty steady position on the trucks and with an auto shotgun there is no way that Hank and Gomez get behind the vehicle in time.[/quote]
This is probably very realistic.
Most people cannot hit a moving target if their life depends on it, so, if he misses the first shot?[/quote]
I’m no gun guy, but I would surmise the difficulty of hitting a moving target generally has to do with a standard pistol.
These guys had machine guns and were railing off bullets.
Also:
If Hank dies then this cliff hanger was just to annoy fans. What would be the point to delay his death another episode?
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
tell me gun guys, how realistic was that shootout?
Seems pretty weird that a bunch of trained marksmen couldn’t hit anyone with so many bullets fired[/quote]
Yeah that’s Hollywood though. I mean Todd’s uncles all had pretty steady position on the trucks and with an auto shotgun there is no way that Hank and Gomez get behind the vehicle in time.[/quote]
This is probably very realistic.
Most people cannot hit a moving target if their life depends on it, so, if he misses the first shot?[/quote]
These aren’t typical people who have never shot at a person before
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Also:
If Hank dies then this cliff hanger was just to annoy fans. What would be the point to delay his death another episode?[/quote]
You got it. It’s a cliff hanger, leaving a big question mark over whether Hank will come out of the shoot-out alive.
I thought that Hank would die during his phone call to Marie. That’s what I like about the series: it builds expectations then goes off in a completely different direction. I’m glad they’re getting the traditional climactic gun fight out of the way early - definitely don’t want the story to end that way.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Also:
If Hank dies then this cliff hanger was just to annoy fans. What would be the point to delay his death another episode?[/quote]
That talk at the end with Marie sounded like way too much of a goodbye note for him to get out unscathed. I think my perfect ending would have either been him pooling blood out of the bottom of his jacket when behind cover, or lying on his back looking up at the camera exhaling really heavily with blood on him, in a kind of shot a la “Crawl Space”.
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Also:
If Hank dies then this cliff hanger was just to annoy fans. What would be the point to delay his death another episode?[/quote]
That talk at the end with Marie sounded like way too much of a goodbye note for him to get out unscathed. I think my perfect ending would have either been him pooling blood out of the bottom of his jacket when behind cover, or lying on his back looking up at the camera exhaling really heavily with blood on him, in a kind of shot a la “Crawl Space”.[/quote]
So glad you aren’t on the writing staff.
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
tell me gun guys, how realistic was that shootout?
Seems pretty weird that a bunch of trained marksmen couldn’t hit anyone with so many bullets fired[/quote]
Yeah that’s Hollywood though. I mean Todd’s uncles all had pretty steady position on the trucks and with an auto shotgun there is no way that Hank and Gomez get behind the vehicle in time.[/quote]
As much as I want Walt to off Jesse and Hank “Heisenberg” style and ride off into the subset like a BAMF, I know that isn’t going to happen.
Based on the “flash forwards” it’s pretty obvious to me that Walt is a fugitive which IMO means that Hank and Gomez don’t die in the desert here.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
As much as I want Walt to off Jesse and Hank “Heisenberg” style and ride off into the subset like a BAMF, I know that isn’t going to happen.
Based on the “flash forwards” it’s pretty obvious to me that Walt is a fugitive which IMO means that Hank and Gomez don’t die in the desert here.[/quote]
In the flash forwards, Walt is on the run from Uncle Jack’s gang. They killed Hank, Gomez, and possibly Jesse in the desert and forced Walt to cook for him. Eventually he escaped and went into hiding. He’s coming back for a showdown with Todd and Uncle Jack to settle the score. It’s possible that Jack and Co. went after his family and possibly killed Skylar or Walt Jr.
That’s my guess at this point.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
As much as I want Walt to off Jesse and Hank “Heisenberg” style and ride off into the subset like a BAMF, I know that isn’t going to happen.
Based on the “flash forwards” it’s pretty obvious to me that Walt is a fugitive which IMO means that Hank and Gomez don’t die in the desert here.[/quote]
In the flash forwards, Walt is on the run from Uncle Jack’s gang. They killed Hank, Gomez, and possibly Jesse in the desert and forced Walt to cook for him. Eventually he escaped and went into hiding. He’s coming back for a showdown with Todd and Uncle Jack to settle the score. It’s possible that Jack and Co. went after his family and possibly killed Skylar or Walt Jr.
That’s my guess at this point.[/quote]
That would be SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!
I didn’t even think about that but after agreeing to the cook it makes sense.
Walt is mad that they killed Hank.
Walt doesn’t want to do te cook.
They come after him and his family.
Awesome.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
As much as I want Walt to off Jesse and Hank “Heisenberg” style and ride off into the subset like a BAMF, I know that isn’t going to happen.
Based on the “flash forwards” it’s pretty obvious to me that Walt is a fugitive which IMO means that Hank and Gomez don’t die in the desert here.[/quote]
In the flash forwards, Walt is on the run from Uncle Jack’s gang. They killed Hank, Gomez, and possibly Jesse in the desert and forced Walt to cook for him. Eventually he escaped and went into hiding. He’s coming back for a showdown with Todd and Uncle Jack to settle the score. It’s possible that Jack and Co. went after his family and possibly killed Skylar or Walt Jr.
That’s my guess at this point.[/quote]
That’s how I see it happening.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
As much as I want Walt to off Jesse and Hank “Heisenberg” style and ride off into the subset like a BAMF, I know that isn’t going to happen.
Based on the “flash forwards” it’s pretty obvious to me that Walt is a fugitive which IMO means that Hank and Gomez don’t die in the desert here.[/quote]
In the flash forwards, Walt is on the run from Uncle Jack’s gang. They killed Hank, Gomez, and possibly Jesse in the desert and forced Walt to cook for him. Eventually he escaped and went into hiding. He’s coming back for a showdown with Todd and Uncle Jack to settle the score. It’s possible that Jack and Co. went after his family and possibly killed Skylar or Walt Jr.
That’s my guess at this point.[/quote]
I agree with most of this. My only difference is I think they will capture and force Jesse to cook with Walt. Walt will escape and will try to rescue Jesse and get revenge for them killing his family.
I would probably guess the gang has taken his family hostage more than anything else.
But the scenarios above don’t really explain how the world finds out about him?
[quote]therajraj wrote:
I would probably guess the gang has taken his family hostage more than anything else.
But the scenarios above don’t really explain how the world finds out about him?
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I’m guessing Walt never gets caught but everyone around him will die and he will in the end be left alone with nothing.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
I would probably guess the gang has taken his family hostage more than anything else.
But the scenarios above don’t really explain how the world finds out about him?
[/quote]
How do we know the world finds out about him? The spray paint in his house could have been done by Todd and the gang when they came to kidnap/kill Skylar and Walt Jr. The neighbor freaking out when she sees Walt could just be the fact that his family was brutally murdered next door and no one has seen him for a year. Other than that are there any indications the world knows about Walt that I am missing?
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
I would probably guess the gang has taken his family hostage more than anything else.
But the scenarios above don’t really explain how the world finds out about him?
[/quote]
I’m guessing Walt never gets caught but everyone around him will die and he will in the end be left alone with nothing.[/quote]
There was an interview in the Guardian recently where the creator said the ending was “a victory of sorts for Walter White”… whatever that may mean.
I think you guys are all on the right track.
I’m not sure which scenario I’m hoping more for:
Walts family is kidnapped, he rescues them but dies in the process leaving his family financially set up like he planned all along.
Walts family is all dead, he beats cancer again, he has a ton of money but lost everyone and everything he loved in the end and is bitter, corrupt and alone.
Both endings would be pretty awesome.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
I think you guys are all on the right track.
I’m not sure which scenario I’m hoping more for:
Walts family is kidnapped, he rescues them but dies in the process leaving his family financially set up like he planned all along.
Walts family is all dead, he beats cancer again, he has a ton of money but lost everyone and everything he loved in the end and is bitter, corrupt and alone.
Both endings would be pretty awesome.[/quote]
If you do the Breaking Bad Story Sync on AMC they poll everyone to see if you think Walt will end up A: Rich w/ Family B: Rich and Alone C: Broke w/ Family D: Broke and Alone. They do not even give you a dead option. This makes me feel that he will definitely survive everything.