Breaking Bad Starts Again

[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
anybody noticed that his reflexion on the meth tank is him as Heisenberg(bald and with the goatee) ?[/quote]

Nah - it’s his present self

[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
anybody noticed that his reflexion on the meth tank is him as Heisenberg(bald and with the goatee) ?[/quote]

Indeed, I really enjoy that contrast, when the Heisenberg that was finally falls away in those final moments and we see him go out as the kind and benevolent Walter White.

See now the title of this thread is just depressing :frowning:

[quote]GCF wrote:

[quote]sonnyp wrote:
The ending that no one predicted, you call predictable? OK man.[/quote]

Actually pretty much everyone predicted that:

Walt would die
Jesse would escape
The Nazis would die
from the gun we knew Walt had
The ricin would get used to kill someone
Walt would reveal the location of Hank and Gomez’ bodies

Edit: Oh yeah and everyone knew Todd was getting killed by Jesse

So, yes it was predictable. But still awesome.[/quote]

Maybe it was awesome because it was predictable?
It gave everybody exactly what they wanted.

I sure as hell enjoyed it! :slight_smile:

[quote]Ballin4Christ32 wrote:

Thoughts?[/quote]

That was my initial thought when he got into the car and couldn’t get it started. I thought they were going to hit us with a bullshit dream sequence ending. I was so pissed. I don’t think it’s what the writers were going for though, and I think there would have been some sort of reveal at the end if it were.

I also think that if he’s living out a fantasy, he would have been able to communicate with Walt JR, and probably thrown Hank in there as well.

A very cool boxset for the series.

[quote]timbofirstblood wrote:

[quote]Ballin4Christ32 wrote:

Thoughts?[/quote]

That was my initial thought when he got into the car and couldn’t get it started. I thought they were going to hit us with a bullshit dream sequence ending. I was so pissed. I don’t think it’s what the writers were going for though, and I think there would have been some sort of reveal at the end if it were.

I also think that if he’s living out a fantasy, he would have been able to communicate with Walt JR, and probably thrown Hank in there as well.[/quote]

Also, didn’t he think Jesse was willingly helping the nazis make the meth? How would he get the exact scenario that was happening in real life in his fantasy? Suppose if you were set on the ending being a fantasy you could say it was because of his relationship with Jesse and he didn’t want it to be true. I don’t know.

Pretty tidy ending, but the only other way to go would be for him to get caught and the ending showing him dying in a prison infirmary. Not as spectacular.

[quote]MrZsasz wrote:
A very cool boxset for the series.

JESUS CHRIST!(MARIE!)

It will cost 1.100 reais to import over here to Brazil =(

I wonder if that boxset will sell out and be a hot item at christmas?

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I wonder if that boxset will sell out and be a hot item at christmas?[/quote]
Maybe. But since they shot it on film, they’ll be able to release a 4k version in the future, and maybe I’m not the only one waiting for that one.

Does anybody just laugh when they see AMC’s “Low Winter Sun” commercials?

They tried oh so hard to dovetail the end of Breaking Bad into their new show. Just not going to happen.

[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
Does anybody just laugh when they see AMC’s “Low Winter Sun” commercials?

They tried oh so hard to dovetail the end of Breaking Bad into their new show. Just not going to happen.

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I didn’t give that show an ounce of attention ahhaa. Walking Dead starts soon so I literally only get the 1 week break before that show.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
junior really is a stupid, ungrateful little shit [/quote]

You think?

Just because he is handicapped and Walt wants to set him up for life?
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Absolutely no excuses for asking, nay, telling people to call you Flynn. That’s the most unforgivable crime of the series. And he gets away with it.

Badger’s Bab 5 reference in the final season was a homage to Bryan Cranston’s iconic guest appearance as ’ guy nobody remembered # 4’.

Tidy indeed.

[quote]roybot wrote:
Badger’s Bab 5 reference in the final season was a homage to Bryan Cranston’s iconic guest appearance as ’ guy nobody remembered # 4’.

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Sort of off topic–I love watching old Star Trek NG, Voyager and Deep Space Nine reruns and recognizing the young stars. Extra bonus when they are in full alien costume and it’s the shape of their head and voice that gives them away.

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
Badger’s Bab 5 reference in the final season was a homage to Bryan Cranston’s iconic guest appearance as ’ guy nobody remembered # 4’.

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Sort of off topic–I love watching old Star Trek NG, Voyager and Deep Space Nine reruns and recognizing the young stars. Extra bonus when they are in full alien costume and it’s the shape of their head and voice that gives them away.
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I noticed you didn’t include Babylon 5 in the list of reruns you like watching. My buddy worships Bab 5 and I rib him endlessly about it. He was gutted that he didn’t spot Bryan Cranston…Neither did I, but it was a series I could never get into.

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
I like that they had White die alone, having not reclaimed the rest of his money. Just setting his kid up with 9 million was a little too much happy ending for me. He destroyed people around him. Associated with skinheads and child killers. And, was a murderer himself, after all. Still he died alone, on the floor of a warehouse, with only his reflection on a chemical tank as his last companionship.

Frankly, he lied to Skylar. Part of all of his doings, especially in the beginning, was because of his misguided idea of making sure the family was taken care of. In fact, you see his emotional breakdown in the prior episode, when his son fully rejects him. Prior to that, he was willing to go to prison than see Hank murdered (though the neo-nazis showed up anyways). He wasn’t faking any of that. I think he told her that so she wouldn’t mourn anew for Walter White, when she caught the news later on. “Walter White has been dead for some time. You’ve already started working through the loss of him. The dead man you’ll hear about in the news later is a completely different person. Completely a monster you needn’t and shouldn’t mourn.” She’s already been working through the ‘loss’ of W.W. No need to start her through the stages of grief all over again, when news broadcasts began recounting his death (which he must’ve considered a likely outcome, if not planned). Don’t forget, he asked to see his daughter one last time.

Nope, he failed in his primary goal. And he knew it. He was no different than any thuggish kingpin. Taking the lives of, or at least destroying them, those around him. But even less liked and respected than many ‘kingpins.’ He irrevocably destroyed one aspect of his life (his family). And his relationships in the other aspect (Mike, Pinkman). He had no choice now but to find some shred of satisfaction in revenge, and in protecting a family (don’t forget he knew about Todd’s visit to the White home) that wanted nothing more to do with him.

A bad man died alone, on the floor of a warehouse in a neo-nazi compound, with his relationships shattered. Only a fraction of his money possibly going (let’s not assume it ever actually gets paid out) to his son. A son that despises him. An adopted son/partner (Pinkman) that would rather leave him to die a slower death from bleeding out than carry out a vengeance that would put White out his misery quickly. Basically, “Die slow, BITCH!”

Nope, it wasn’t the ending he had worked and planned for. It was the best he could get out of the mess he caused. Ultimately, he wasn’t clever enough.

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Otherwise he would have had an agonizing death in a hospital, knowing full well that he had left them with nothing.

He did way better than that.[/quote]

He left them with less than they would have had. That son wanted to remember the father he admired and loved. Not the monster he turned out to be. A poisoner of children, who associates with outright child killers. No, he failed his family big time. As far as the money, he has no idea if his son will actually see it. I would doubt it. When it gets out in the news that W. White killed those men all by his lonesome with an improvised gun rig, you have to wonder where his hired shooters where. In fact, you have to start doubting they even exist. He/we have no idea if his kid ever sees that money. It’s perfectly reasonable to believe he won’t.

The only thing we do know is that he ruined lives. Betrayed people who loved him. Poisoned a child to advance his own sinister plots, watched the gf of someone who trusted him die without helping, etc. Associated with the lowest of the low. Got a child murdered. And, finally, destroyed his family. That is what we know. Kudos to him for getting the neo-nazis menacing his family. A danger he created in the first place. Guess he broke even on that ONE account.
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And yet, over the course of the series, Walt inadvertantly wiped out a meth network that was operating on a global scale.