[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
Also, run with your hands up in your guard. It’ll build up the stamina you need without you having to get punched in the face. [/quote]
Starting to realize how ignorant i sounded talking about weight lifting and progressing in the gym while boxing lol.
My shoulders are worn the fuck out. 3 minute rounds of 100 jabs on the heavy bag all week at the gym and my shoulders feel horrible. No way in hell i’d be able to bench or even do a shoulder press after that . What i have been doing is some pullups and light rear delt flys after my boxing workout.
Kinda frustrated . My sucks really badly compared to everyone else in my gym . Feels so slow and soft . I have very long arms.[/quote]
Ye, the reality is you can only really make good progress in one, while trying to maintain in the other. So you can either focus on weights, and maintain your current boxing ability, or focus on the boxing and maintain your weight lifting. Boxing isn’t a fun sport to suck at…
If you’re training hard, always pushing yourself, you will likely always find that the days you aren’t boxing will be needed for recovery. Once you’re up to sparring, you’re going to be physically and mentally drained by a hard session. There’s a reason no pros are sparring 12 rounds a day every day. You need light days where you can recover. For you, that might mean a switch of focus to a few core movements with a barbell.
[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
Also, run with your hands up in your guard. It’ll build up the stamina you need without you having to get punched in the face. [/quote]
Starting to realize how ignorant i sounded talking about weight lifting and progressing in the gym while boxing lol.
My shoulders are worn the fuck out. 3 minute rounds of 100 jabs on the heavy bag all week at the gym and my shoulders feel horrible. No way in hell i’d be able to bench or even do a shoulder press after that . What i have been doing is some pullups and light rear delt flys after my boxing workout.
Kinda frustrated . My sucks really badly compared to everyone else in my gym . Feels so slow and soft . I have very long arms.[/quote]
Yea, the “breaking-in” pain that you feel in that initial few weeks of boxing is worse than almost any other sport, at least that I’ve experienced. That repetitive but still unnatural motion of throwing a correct punch beats the hell out of your shoulders, and makes you realize pretty quickly why fighting is different than lifting, and being strong in one doesn’t translate to being strong in the other.
As Vince Lombardi said, “Fatigue makes cowards of us all.”
Again, keep at it though. It won’t always be like that - eventually you’ll be banging out 12 or 15 round workouts and you won’t even feel it in your shoulders anymore.
That might be two or three years from now, but it will happen haha.
Shoulders feeling a lot better . Still not 100 percent lol but im able to keep my hands up now atleast without getting tired . Feels like im progressing pretty well.
Yesterday did 4 rounds of pad work(mostly jabs. he’d move around and make me throw about 50-60 jabs and then followed by a couple crosses and left hooks each round. all rounds are 3 minutes long and only get a 30 second rest).Then i moved on to the heavy bag(the circl not the long one). Did 100 jabs each round . Did 4 rounds and then i did another 4 rounds on the double end ball tryna work on some combos and head movement. Finally ended my workout with the speed bag tryna get the hang of it and did a ton of ab work. My abs are really weak, gotta get them strong asap.
Forgot to mention did 4 rounds of jump rope as well.
I used to work out 6 times a week. Since I hate running/cycling/… I decided to do 4x gym and 2x thaibox. At first it was hard. I had to rework my workout regime completely. I couldn’t train legs 1 or 2 days before the thaibox training, because getting lowkicks on legs you hammered the day before isn’t very comfortable.
My gains… well I lost about 5kgs after 6 months (110kg => 105kg), but I guess this is mostly bodyfat. My performance in the gym is equal to before. I look more defined.
That said I do eat a lot of BCAA’s before, during and after the thaibox, because it will be catabolic in a certain degree.
jab has gotten a lot of better . feels a lot stronger and endurance has increased. going to start doing sprints and more rope work to imrpove my conditioning. it fucking sucks.
[quote]DazeDolo wrote:
jab has gotten a lot of better . feels a lot stronger and endurance has increased. going to start doing sprints and more rope work to imrpove my conditioning. it fucking sucks.[/quote]
Awesome!,
Once you put on that headgear and mouth piece for the first and start sparring where someone is throwing back at you with bad intentions, your focus will be far far far away from wanting to work in some extra benchpressing.
Sure, the pro’s do use weight training, but to a small extent, and remember that’s their job. Thats all they do. They have the free time to recover during the day. No job, no school. And any pro would tell you, if they had to cut out one thing they did in training and not have it effect their performance in the ring…it would be the weights.
Do drop a line after your first sparring session. Thats the shit.
Couldn’t agree anymore LB. If you start sparring religiously, weights will soon become secondary. Remember technique is most important and then conditioning.
If you want to increase endurance, run like Irish as said many times. And argued about many times.
Jumping rope will help you become lighter on your feet. I move like a robot sometimes, but jumping rope makes me feel like less of a robot.
As one of my old trainers said, “Work the jab, then work the jab some more. And when your done, work the jab again. By the way, did you work on your jab today?” lol