[quote]Chushin wrote:
Last I heard, there is a big drive to take NPD out of the DSM.
The argument is that narcissism is so prevalent that it can’t be called a “disorder.”
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How comforting.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Babylat wrote:
So someone explain to me what the difference is between BPD and the majority of female behavior? Is it just the physical violence? Because ime women tend to manipulate guys either subconsciously or consciously for attention so they can get affection, love, and/or passion. The same with ups and downs. It seems like they have to cause the downs in a relationship so there can be ups later, because they can never be content in a normal, steady relationship. I’m not saying I’ve had the most experience with women, but between that and seeing friends relationships etc, it seems pretty normal behavior that most women display.
The only thing I can see that’s different is the flipping out in violent rage. Is that thing that separates BPD from normal behavior? Seems like there would be more to it?[/quote]
Good point.
Narcissism is on the upswing today, and what was once a male domain seems to be one where women have caught up.
So, what you would call BPD is in some ways normal behavior these day and its out in the open if you can get away with it.
If you click the link I provided you will come across story upon story of women who tell their husbands point blank that they can and will get away with whatever mindfucked assclownery they can cook up.
The BPD personality is bad enough, but if you have a society running on the delusional assumption that abuse is a phenomenon that is done by men to women a female cluster B fuck up can get away with it.
Easily.
In some ways we have created the most narcissistic entitled princesses ever known to man and BPDs have no problems whatsoever to hide among them.
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But, of course, you’re not at all a misogynist.[/quote]
I dont care if I am or not.
I call it like I see it and people can stick any label on it they want to.
A quick google search should reveal whether narcissism is on the rise, especially among females and whether 25% of all women in the US are on mental health drugs.
Seems like their sexual utopia is not working out for them so well. [/quote]
Last I heard, there is a big drive to take NPD out of the DSM.
The argument is that narcissism is so prevalent that it can’t be called a “disorder.”
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That sounds like some shit someone made up to justify their own preconceptions
Heres the actual reasoning:
"The formulation of Narcissistic personality disorder in the diagnostic manual DSM-IV has been criticised for failing to describe the range and complexity of the disorder; it focuses overly on “the narcissistic individual’s external, symptomatic, or social interpersonal patterns–at the expense of his or her internal complexity and individual suffering” which has reduced its clinical utility.[28]
The Personality and Personality Disorders Work Group originally proposed[29] the elimination of NPD as a distinct disorder in DSM-5[30] as part of a major revamping of the diagnostic criteria for personality disorders, replacing a categorical with a dimensional approach based on the severity of dysfunctional personality trait domains.
Some clinicians objected to this, characterizing the new diagnostic system as an “unwieldy conglomeration of disparate models that cannot happily coexist” and may have limited usefulness in clinical practice.[31]
In July 2011, the Work Group came back with a major revision to their original proposal. In this revision, NPD was reinstated with dramatic changes to its definition.[32] The general move towards a dimensional (personality trait-based) view of the Personality Disorders has been maintained despite the reintroduction of NPD."
[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:
If its not too personal of a question, how many times did it take you before you finally made it out? [/quote]
She left me.
All my growth took place after we split, so I’m sorry to say that with my upbringing I never saw divorce as an option, so I would most likely still be in the relationship. Or, I would’ve driven my car into a tree.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Babylat wrote:
So someone explain to me what the difference is between BPD and the majority of female behavior? Is it just the physical violence? Because ime women tend to manipulate guys either subconsciously or consciously for attention so they can get affection, love, and/or passion. The same with ups and downs. It seems like they have to cause the downs in a relationship so there can be ups later, because they can never be content in a normal, steady relationship. I’m not saying I’ve had the most experience with women, but between that and seeing friends relationships etc, it seems pretty normal behavior that most women display.
The only thing I can see that’s different is the flipping out in violent rage. Is that thing that separates BPD from normal behavior? Seems like there would be more to it?[/quote]
Good point.
Narcissism is on the upswing today, and what was once a male domain seems to be one where women have caught up.
So, what you would call BPD is in some ways normal behavior these day and its out in the open if you can get away with it.
If you click the link I provided you will come across story upon story of women who tell their husbands point blank that they can and will get away with whatever mindfucked assclownery they can cook up.
The BPD personality is bad enough, but if you have a society running on the delusional assumption that abuse is a phenomenon that is done by men to women a female cluster B fuck up can get away with it.
Easily.
In some ways we have created the most narcissistic entitled princesses ever known to man and BPDs have no problems whatsoever to hide among them.
[/quote]
But, of course, you’re not at all a misogynist.[/quote]
I dont care if I am or not.
I call it like I see it and people can stick any label on it they want to.
A quick google search should reveal whether narcissism is on the rise, especially among females and whether 25% of all women in the US are on mental health drugs.
Seems like their sexual utopia is not working out for them so well. [/quote]
You are not a misogynist.
You are a misomalakeist.
I leave it to you to discover what that is. [/quote]
I am someone who despises ignorant wankers?[/quote]
You abhor bullshit.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Babylat wrote:
So someone explain to me what the difference is between BPD and the majority of female behavior? Is it just the physical violence? Because ime women tend to manipulate guys either subconsciously or consciously for attention so they can get affection, love, and/or passion. The same with ups and downs. It seems like they have to cause the downs in a relationship so there can be ups later, because they can never be content in a normal, steady relationship. I’m not saying I’ve had the most experience with women, but between that and seeing friends relationships etc, it seems pretty normal behavior that most women display.
The only thing I can see that’s different is the flipping out in violent rage. Is that thing that separates BPD from normal behavior? Seems like there would be more to it?[/quote]
Good point.
Narcissism is on the upswing today, and what was once a male domain seems to be one where women have caught up.
So, what you would call BPD is in some ways normal behavior these day and its out in the open if you can get away with it.
If you click the link I provided you will come across story upon story of women who tell their husbands point blank that they can and will get away with whatever mindfucked assclownery they can cook up.
The BPD personality is bad enough, but if you have a society running on the delusional assumption that abuse is a phenomenon that is done by men to women a female cluster B fuck up can get away with it.
Easily.
In some ways we have created the most narcissistic entitled princesses ever known to man and BPDs have no problems whatsoever to hide among them.
[/quote]
But, of course, you’re not at all a misogynist.[/quote]
I dont care if I am or not.
I call it like I see it and people can stick any label on it they want to.
A quick google search should reveal whether narcissism is on the rise, especially among females and whether 25% of all women in the US are on mental health drugs.
Seems like their sexual utopia is not working out for them so well. [/quote]
You are not a misogynist.
You are a misomalakeist.
I leave it to you to discover what that is. [/quote]
I am someone who despises ignorant wankers?[/quote]
You abhor bullshit. [/quote]
Nooooooooooo…
I had such an elaborate theory regarding the greek term “malaka”…
I feel so much less clever now…
Did your elaborate theory involve the strait between peninsular Malaysia and Sumatra?
Malaka colloquially means “wanker” but malakeis means the same as “bullshit”.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
[quote]Babylat wrote:
So someone explain to me what the difference is between BPD and the majority of female behavior? Is it just the physical violence? Because ime women tend to manipulate guys either subconsciously or consciously for attention so they can get affection, love, and/or passion.
The same with ups and downs. It seems like they have to cause the downs in a relationship so there can be ups later, because they can never be content in a normal, steady relationship. I’m not saying I’ve had the most experience with women, but between that and seeing friends relationships etc, it seems pretty normal behavior that most women display.
The only thing I can see that’s different is the flipping out in violent rage. Is that thing that separates BPD from normal behavior? Seems like there would be more to it?[/quote]
BDP simply means that a person feels emotions much stronger and for a longer period then others, usually a painful sense or fear of abandonment runs a lot of the conflict they feel. Also added sense of conflict with family members out of that fear, I think. They created DBT therapy originally for the purpose of curing BDP, and most cases do experience a full recovery if they follow through with therapy. [/quote]
IMHO, you have BPD and you don’t get DBT ASAP, you could be TSOL.
QED.
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What’s TSOL stand for? Google only comes up with a band.
[quote]Babylat wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
[quote]Babylat wrote:
So someone explain to me what the difference is between BPD and the majority of female behavior? Is it just the physical violence? Because ime women tend to manipulate guys either subconsciously or consciously for attention so they can get affection, love, and/or passion.
The same with ups and downs. It seems like they have to cause the downs in a relationship so there can be ups later, because they can never be content in a normal, steady relationship. I’m not saying I’ve had the most experience with women, but between that and seeing friends relationships etc, it seems pretty normal behavior that most women display.
The only thing I can see that’s different is the flipping out in violent rage. Is that thing that separates BPD from normal behavior? Seems like there would be more to it?[/quote]
BDP simply means that a person feels emotions much stronger and for a longer period then others, usually a painful sense or fear of abandonment runs a lot of the conflict they feel. Also added sense of conflict with family members out of that fear, I think. They created DBT therapy originally for the purpose of curing BDP, and most cases do experience a full recovery if they follow through with therapy. [/quote]
IMHO, you have BPD and you don’t get DBT ASAP, you could be TSOL.
QED.
[/quote]
What’s TSOL stand for? Google only comes up with a band.[/quote]
Tough shit outta luck.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
[quote]Babylat wrote:
So someone explain to me what the difference is between BPD and the majority of female behavior? Is it just the physical violence? Because ime women tend to manipulate guys either subconsciously or consciously for attention so they can get affection, love, and/or passion.
The same with ups and downs. It seems like they have to cause the downs in a relationship so there can be ups later, because they can never be content in a normal, steady relationship. I’m not saying I’ve had the most experience with women, but between that and seeing friends relationships etc, it seems pretty normal behavior that most women display.
The only thing I can see that’s different is the flipping out in violent rage. Is that thing that separates BPD from normal behavior? Seems like there would be more to it?[/quote]
BDP simply means that a person feels emotions much stronger and for a longer period then others, usually a painful sense or fear of abandonment runs a lot of the conflict they feel. Also added sense of conflict with family members out of that fear, I think. They created DBT therapy originally for the purpose of curing BDP, and most cases do experience a full recovery if they follow through with therapy. [/quote]
IMHO, you have BPD and you don’t get DBT ASAP, you could be TSOL.
QED.
[/quote]
haha!
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]Babylat wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
[quote]Babylat wrote:
So someone explain to me what the difference is between BPD and the majority of female behavior? Is it just the physical violence? Because ime women tend to manipulate guys either subconsciously or consciously for attention so they can get affection, love, and/or passion.
The same with ups and downs. It seems like they have to cause the downs in a relationship so there can be ups later, because they can never be content in a normal, steady relationship. I’m not saying I’ve had the most experience with women, but between that and seeing friends relationships etc, it seems pretty normal behavior that most women display.
The only thing I can see that’s different is the flipping out in violent rage. Is that thing that separates BPD from normal behavior? Seems like there would be more to it?[/quote]
BDP simply means that a person feels emotions much stronger and for a longer period then others, usually a painful sense or fear of abandonment runs a lot of the conflict they feel. Also added sense of conflict with family members out of that fear, I think. They created DBT therapy originally for the purpose of curing BDP, and most cases do experience a full recovery if they follow through with therapy. [/quote]
IMHO, you have BPD and you don’t get DBT ASAP, you could be TSOL.
QED.
[/quote]
What’s TSOL stand for? Google only comes up with a band.[/quote]
Tough shit outta luck.[/quote]
I knew this because it was a Before & After on jeopardy a few years back.
Experienced guys here know what they’re talking about. I made the mistake of trying to “fix” her while ignoring my guts. Well I paid the price, although I did end things with her, I wasn’t prepared for the aftermath. What Varqanir described was what happened to me. Couldn’t believe it but unfortunately it was needed for personal growth. What helped me grew was reading these articles…
gettinbetter.com/articles.html
Last I heard about the BPD girl is that she’s engaged to a 24 years old boy.
She’s 31.
[quote]Nutso wrote:
Experienced guys here know what they’re talking about. I made the mistake of trying to “fix” her while ignoring my guts. Well I paid the price, although I did end things with her, I wasn’t prepared for the aftermath. What Varqanir described was what happened to me. Couldn’t believe it but unfortunately it was needed for personal growth. What helped me grew was reading these articles…
gettinbetter.com/articles.html
Last I heard about the BPD girl is that she’s engaged to a 24 years old boy.
She’s 31.[/quote]
Fucking A-hole! I already had this counted as a successful TK.