[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Started this yesterday evening[/quote]
I like Cormac McCarthy a lot.
Well I was young when I read it. Nabokov certainly has a way with words and his understanding of the English language is unrivaled in my opinion. I began to sympathize with dear old Humbert Humbert. For a brief time he had me convinced that nymphets truly did exist and were completely aware of their blossoming sexuality. I started paying attention to the subtle nuances of female pre-pubescent behavior. I soon realized Humbert Humbert was merely attempting to rationalize his pedophilia.
Of course some girls become aware of their sexuality at a much younger age then their peers. This does not deem them appropriate for sexual relations. So in conclusion Humbert Humbert was a sick fuck who ruined a poor girls life. But damn did he do a fantastic job convincing the reader he had done nothing wrong.
[quote]IFlashBack wrote:
[quote]A-rod wrote:
So currently I am trying to read Ada, or Ardor by Vladmir Nabokov. I bought Crime and Punishment by Dostoyevsky and decided I would try Ada first because I found Lolita to be so readable where as I found Dostoyevsky’s Notes From the Underground truly a headache to understand. I was soo wrong. Ada is arguably one of the most complex books I have ever read. I always heard you should read all his other books first and save Ada for last. Has anyone else read it?[/quote]
What are your thoughts on Lolita? [/quote]
World War Z - Read this over a couple days, pretty nice. I haven’t watched the movie so I can’t make comparisons, but the book was a good mind release.
Great Gatsby - I’ve now read the book, listened to the Audio Book and watched the movie, and I have to admit that for some reason the story impacts me a lot. It’s all the little things, the details that I find I remember more so than the literal aspect of it.
The Magic (by the same Author as The Secret) - Meh, I like the sentiment, and the main message a lot, but the writing style slightly throws me off a little. It’s basically a bunch of steps that make you more grateful. For the record, I am following some of the steps, but I believe that the Author has dumbed down her work in order to cater to a more lucrative selling crowd.
Talent is Overrated - I like this one a lot. This and the Power Of Habit are must reads in terms of self improvement.
This is one of the greatest books ever, well, maybe only if you are interested into what I am very much interested in right now:
Cliff notes:
A ringing endorsement of the Patriarchy, an explanation for why patriarchy (it protects the weakest link of the nuclear family, the father and has him heavily invested in an orderly society), it explains the Herbivores, MGTOW, single mum fueled ghetto culture and Peter Pans, Manboys and whatnot and the
GUY COULD NOT EVEN KNOW OF THEM BECAUSE HE WROTE IT IN 1990 !!!
What he basically describes is the behavior of men in matrilineal, pre patriarchal societies, or rather takes the descriptions directly from feminist texts and lo and behold, in our culture we have all of those male tribes in some for or another.
Which probably means that our societies will collapse because we try to impose a de facto matrilineal system while we rely heavily on the superior productive and innovative capacity of a patriarchy…
Coooool…
[quote]orion wrote:
This is one of the greatest books ever, well, maybe only if you are interested into what I am very much interested in right now:
Cliff notes:
A ringing endorsement of the Patriarchy, an explanation for why patriarchy (it protects the weakest link of the nuclear family, the father and has him heavily invested in an orderly society), it explains the Herbivores, MGTOW, single mum fueled ghetto culture and Peter Pans, Manboys and whatnot and the
GUY COULD NOT EVEN KNOW OF THEM BECAUSE HE WROTE IT IN 1990 !!!
What he basically describes is the behavior of men in matrilineal, pre patriarchal societies, or rather takes the descriptions directly from feminist texts and lo and behold, in our culture we have all of those male tribes in some for or another.
Which probably means that our societies will collapse because we try to impose a de facto matrilineal system while we rely heavily on the superior productive and innovative capacity of a patriarchy…
Coooool…
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Was talking about this with the wife (not the book just the premise) on Sat as we were driving to the gym. I feel personally that there will be a swing back to “maleness” for lack of a better term. Teenagers are constantly trying to rebel against their parents, when these limp wristed, Ikea shopping dads have kids they will rebel by listening to slayer and lifting weights.
At least that is my theory.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
This is one of the greatest books ever, well, maybe only if you are interested into what I am very much interested in right now:
Cliff notes:
A ringing endorsement of the Patriarchy, an explanation for why patriarchy (it protects the weakest link of the nuclear family, the father and has him heavily invested in an orderly society), it explains the Herbivores, MGTOW, single mum fueled ghetto culture and Peter Pans, Manboys and whatnot and the
GUY COULD NOT EVEN KNOW OF THEM BECAUSE HE WROTE IT IN 1990 !!!
What he basically describes is the behavior of men in matrilineal, pre patriarchal societies, or rather takes the descriptions directly from feminist texts and lo and behold, in our culture we have all of those male tribes in some for or another.
Which probably means that our societies will collapse because we try to impose a de facto matrilineal system while we rely heavily on the superior productive and innovative capacity of a patriarchy…
Coooool…
[/quote]
Was talking about this with the wife (not the book just the premise) on Sat as we were driving to the gym. I feel personally that there will be a swing back to “maleness” for lack of a better term. Teenagers are constantly trying to rebel against their parents, when these limp wristed, Ikea shopping dads have kids they will rebel by listening to slayer and lifting weights.
At least that is my theory.[/quote]
He goes further than that.
Motherhood is a biological fact, fatherhood, beyond the services of a sperm donor, a social construct.
What we as a society get wrong is that we strenghten the strongest link instead of the weakest when it comes to the nuclear family.
Men who become fathers early shift from intrasexual competition to cooperation, they unleash their full earning potentional, they are invested in society.
THEY PRODUCE.
If we reintroduce the matrilinear system, which we have, men lose the incentive to do that.
Yeah, due to social inertia men still kind of provide, but if you look at MGTOWs, or PUAs, or Herbivores, or HipHop Ghetto culture, men are already adjusting to the new matrilinear paradigm.
Which means we have men NOT invested in our society, NOT producing more then they need, NOT interested in a stable and secure society.
However, todays society relies heavily on a subsidy flowing from men towards women, men still produce 3/4 of the GDP in pretty much all Western nations.
What will a matriarchy do if it loses the patriarchal dividend, i.e. what if men just say fuck this shit and go Galt?
Which, according even to feminist literature, is their go to reaction whenever there is a reproductive Matriarchy?
The pinnacle of achievement for Matriarchies is subsistence agriculture and the mud hut.
fitting
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
This is one of the greatest books ever, well, maybe only if you are interested into what I am very much interested in right now:
Cliff notes:
A ringing endorsement of the Patriarchy, an explanation for why patriarchy (it protects the weakest link of the nuclear family, the father and has him heavily invested in an orderly society), it explains the Herbivores, MGTOW, single mum fueled ghetto culture and Peter Pans, Manboys and whatnot and the
GUY COULD NOT EVEN KNOW OF THEM BECAUSE HE WROTE IT IN 1990 !!!
What he basically describes is the behavior of men in matrilineal, pre patriarchal societies, or rather takes the descriptions directly from feminist texts and lo and behold, in our culture we have all of those male tribes in some for or another.
Which probably means that our societies will collapse because we try to impose a de facto matrilineal system while we rely heavily on the superior productive and innovative capacity of a patriarchy…
Coooool…
[/quote]
Was talking about this with the wife (not the book just the premise) on Sat as we were driving to the gym. I feel personally that there will be a swing back to “maleness” for lack of a better term. Teenagers are constantly trying to rebel against their parents, when these limp wristed, Ikea shopping dads have kids they will rebel by listening to slayer and lifting weights.
At least that is my theory.[/quote]
He goes further than that.
Motherhood is a biological fact, fatherhood, beyond the services of a sperm donor, a social construct.
What we as a society get wrong is that we strenghten the strongest link instead of the weakest when it comes to the nuclear family.
Men who become fathers early shift from intrasexual competition to cooperation, they unleash their full earning potentional, they are invested in society.
THEY PRODUCE.
If we reintroduce the matrilinear system, which we have, men lose the incentive to do that.
Yeah, due to social inertia men still kind of provide, but if you look at MGTOWs, or PUAs, or Herbivores, or HipHop Ghetto culture, men are already adjusting to the new matrilinear paradigm.
Which means we have men NOT invested in our society, NOT producing more then they need, NOT interested in a stable and secure society.
However, todays society relies heavily on a subsidy flowing from men towards women, men still produce 3/4 of the GDP in pretty much all Western nations.
What will a matriarchy do if it loses the patriarchal dividend, i.e. what if men just say fuck this shit and go Galt?
Which, according even to feminist literature, is their go to reaction whenever there is a reproductive Matriarchy?
The pinnacle of achievement for Matriarchies is subsistence agriculture and the mud hut.
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To keep it simple, Im tired been a long day.
society will adjust. It always has. Will everything crumble and collapse. Maybe. But I still believe most things will shift back to the middle.
It will not be 1950 ever again. Our society has adjusted to a technological age.
As a father of children of my own and step children I have raised, men will need to adjust.
Will they? Will they adjust correctly?
Do not know.
The Way of Superior Men by David Deida
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Will they? [/quote]
They already are.
Correctly?
Yes.
In a productive manner?
No.
Sword-Dancer by jennifer Roberson
My first non university book I have read in like 4 years. It’s an awesome read that I can totally see being a TV series and or a movie.
Flowers for Algernon.
The Starmaker and Last and first Men by Olaf Stapleton.
Mr God, this is Anna, by Finch.
Neither of those are emotionally easy.
Well worth the read though.
[quote]IFlashBack wrote:
[quote]A-rod wrote:
So currently I am trying to read Ada, or Ardor by Vladmir Nabokov. I bought Crime and Punishment by Dostoyevsky and decided I would try Ada first because I found Lolita to be so readable where as I found Dostoyevsky’s Notes From the Underground truly a headache to understand. I was soo wrong. Ada is arguably one of the most complex books I have ever read. I always heard you should read all his other books first and save Ada for last. Has anyone else read it?[/quote]
What are your thoughts on Lolita? [/quote]
I’d hit it.
I read half of Ender’s Game a few months ago and for a guy who is against homosexuality there sure were enough scenes of nude boys and things like boys sending penis pictures to each other.
By the way, I stopped reading because it felt like an endless amount of the hero training in the zero G room. Like 50 fucking times. The damn book is only 250 pages for fuck’s sake.
Just started Inferno and as usual Dan Brown delivers.
Movement by Gray Cook. Not exactly a page turner.
I’m also reading A People’s History of the United States. Sort of depressing.
Joy of Hate by Greg Gutfeld. Gutfeld’s a smart and funny guy and I think he has quite the knack for seeing through the bull shit and calling things as they really are.
Just finished Never Let Go by Dan John after it sat on my bookshelf for a year. So enjoyable. Becoming a Supple Leopard is next followed by Business in Blue Jeans.
That should keep me busy until Larry Wingets new book Grow a Pair finally arrives
Just watched World War Z. Nothing like the book. I would suggest reading the book, it’s much better.
Re-reading the 7 Habits Of Highly Effective Teens. I read it first when I was 13 and now when I am 19. Wanted to see how my perspective changed. Honestly I can’t believe how much this book has helped me.
Gave an honest attempt at the Graveyard Book. Couldn’t finish.
Am Halfway through The Blade Itself by Joe Abercrombie. Also having a hard time getting invested in the story.