[quote]Bismark wrote:
Politics are inherently about compromise. [/quote]
The Founders built a system where compromise was the designed feature, not a bug.[/quote]
Philosophical question for both of you:
Is there a compromise that shouldn’t be made? Or is anything on the table in the name of compromise?
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I think yes - but I think that would be a very small set of subjects.
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Fair enough.
So let’s pick two issues right now.
What should the Left give up for higher taxation that would satisfy the right?
What should the Left give up for “universal background checks” that would satisfy pro-rights folks?
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I don’t think I understand what you’re asking - you’re wondering what Democrats would compromise on in terms of important issues to them?
Happy to answer, I just am confused as to what you’re asking.
According to Votesmart, the NRA gave Paul Ryan a score of 93% in 2014.
93%, NRA. But still too much of a gun rights squish to be Speaker.
Hilarious. Seriously, Push - your posts, light on content as they are, are starting to read like satire.[/quote]
Dooooood, my post on Ryan was a quote from the Gun Owner’s of America newsletter. You can take it or leave it but learn to understand what quotes are. Yes, I’m a proud member. The NRA has actually been a little too willing to compromise over the years for my taste. If therefore ye liketh not the GOA ye may promptly go forth and fuck thyself heartily.[/quote]
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Dear Lord, look at the scorecard - Push’s “true conservative” Dave Brat of the Commonwealth of Virginia scores 86. Shouldn’t he resign his seat?
I haven’t laughed like this in months. This is too fun.[/quote]
I’m chuckling too.
At the guy who dissed political voting records just a few short weeks ago right here on PWI and who now “relies” on them.[/quote]
You’ve got me confused with someone else re: scoring (political voting records are helpful but not dispositive because of the nature of how things are voted on), but that’s irrelevant - the point is you rely on scorecards because you and your ideological brethren are obsessed with ideological purity, and by your own standards your arguments are being hoisted by their own petard.
Ryan is no “true conservative” on gun rights - except that he scores better than conservative beau ideal Dave Brat.
I’m not here to carry water for Ryan - he may or may not be the right person for Speaker. My point is to highlight the idiocy and silliness of the process by which the Freedom Caucus is measuring potential candidates. And you’ve made my point clearly.
The Tea Partiers are like a bloodless version of French revolutionaries - they are destined to eat themselves as they turn on everyone in the name of battles over the One True Ideology. Americans with basic horse sense are aghast at this process, but the insular Tea Partiers lack the self-awareness to understand the effects of their self-beclowning.
Harry Reid endorses Paul Ryan for speaker. What more do you need to know?
When Harry Reid says “someone we can work with,” he means “someone we can control.” I couldn’t see him expressing his support for a Louie Gohmert speakership.
The only point I want to bring up is Paul Ryan’s performance against Joe Biden.
There was no way he could ‘win’ against Biden. Biden’s only goal was to throw meat to the base and there was nothing Paul Ryan could do about that. All Biden had to do in Obama’s words “Biden just needs to be Biden” and he went to almost ridiculous extremes in being himself. The only thing Paul Ryan could do is deliver his message in a manner fit for a VP and I actually thought he did well in that regard despite the fact I didn’t like his message.
The only point I want to bring up is Paul Ryan’s performance against Joe Biden.
There was no way he could ‘win’ against Biden. Biden’s only goal was to throw meat to the base and there was nothing Paul Ryan could do about that. All Biden had to do in Obama’s words “Biden just needs to be Biden” and he went to almost ridiculous extremes in being himself. The only thing Paul Ryan could do is deliver his message in a manner fit for a VP and I actually thought he did well in that regard despite the fact I didn’t like his message.
This is coming from someone who is center left. [/quote]
Agree with you and not the author of Push’s post.
If Biden “destroyed” Ryan in that debate, all hope is lost, we’ll never have a statesman in office again, and politics are now no different than sitcom TV. Biden acted like a god damn clown, not someone who should be in COC.
Anyone that says they would have been proud of their son if they acted that childish on that stage, for VP… I’d keep them away from my kids, as you aren’t teaching them any life lessons thank you very much.