I seem to be able to hit areas of reset and go a good while with good sleep, but it only takes 1 bad night to throw me into a months long cycle before I can get it back to good. It’s sucks but that’s how it is.
What I decided to do was get rid of all supplements that I was taking besides what I was prescribed. So that means I’m dropping…
Tryptophan
Tyrosine
Melanotan
Magnesium
For at least the next few weeks to allow my body to reset. It could be that I’m getting enough of all of this in my diet, and the supps are just putting me at too high of concentration.
A lot of people I know on TRT or cycles have this problem. I remember reading a few weak studies that linked the 2 a while back, but nothing concrete, more studies were needed was the conclusion.
Tried slashing my supplements down to a multi vit and fish oil only, but it still persists. Tried Melatonin, ZMA, even prescription meds off the doctor couldn’t keep me asleep. They only made me feel like a zombie the next day.
I think I might have sleep apnea. Apparently I snore bad and actually stop breathing for a few seconds. Never had a sleep study to confirm it. Either that or insomnia. Sleep problems run in my family, my dad was the same.
Yeah bro if you have sleep apnea that could explain a lot for you. I don’t really have any apnea like symptoms (snoring or breathing issues) unless I drink too much whiskey, at least according to my wife lol.
3mg but I am one of those that are real sensitive to any drugs.
My anxiety meds Lorzapam is a .5mg pill I cut it into 4 pieces.
I’ve been trying the 5 HTP Tryptophan in 50 and 100mgs. They work better but they are not as strong as the melatonin.
I know it is bad but the Vicks nitequel cold med help my sleep better than all the rest.
I know what you mean brother. For a while there, I was taking two Benadryl every night and it actually did fairly decent. I stopped though because I’m not sure what the implications of doing that long term would be.
If you have an iPhone there is a snore app called SnoreLab and it will record you all night and you can listen to how you sleep. You will hear snoring and breath holding etc. Its a little creepy to listen to but you get used to hearing yourself.
I just downloaded SnoreLab after reading your message. I will give that a go tonight. At the moment I am using some King kong lol … even that doesn’t keep me down and its quality stuff. Cheers for the app recommendation. I’ll see how that goes
I mean it won’t get you a remedy but it will help you know what you are dealing with. If its just snoring then they make night guards to help with that.
It will give me an idea possibly what’s going on. I keep meaning to get a sleep study done but never get round to it. See what this wee app records during the night out of curiosity. I will have to get a proper study done at some point. It’s been nearly 6 years from a full nights sleep.
The phone should be close to your head. Like a nightstand or something. You may hear the fan in the background, and it will register, but you will still hear your snoring/breathing. Its pretty sensitive.
I’m guessing that my E2 is high right now (followup bloods not for another few weeks since starting the new protocol). I guessing this because I just noticed that I am feeling a sudden soreness right beneath my left nipple. It’s not the nipple exactly, but kind of directly underneath it (as in behind it). When I press down on the nipple there is a dull pain.
Not to seem too anxious or anything, but should I get some DIM in the morning to try and help?
Also, how long can a symptom like this persist if it is high E2 until I have to be worried about Gyno? I’m just noticing it tonight for the first time, but I definitely want to get it under control quickly.
You should add prolactin to your next blood test.
If E2 and prolactin are over range for a year or more I would worry.
google: What are the first signs of gynecomastia?
Symptoms. Your first sign of gynecomastia may be a lump of fatty tissue under the nipple. Sometimes this lump is tender or sore .
I’m going to bookmark this thread for my first piece of evidence on the stupid group think going on around here against AI’s . In about two years we are going to be man boob central. haha
Seriously I hope the DIM works for you.
I’m not feeling any lumps specifically, just a definite pronounced tender spot.
I don’t have any personal experience with AIs, all I know is what I’ve read. I definitely want to avoid them if at all possible. I guess if I’m really being fair to both sides of that whole discussion, the general consensus seems to be that AIs should be avoided based on the number alone, but if the numbers are accompanied by symptoms then it’s time to try to bring E2 levels down. The preferred method of bringing that down should probably be best determined by where my Free T is at though I’m thinking.
In the peak of an adjustment period though, as I don’t have any blood work yet to go by to see where I’m at, I’m not sure where my Free T is by comparison. If it’s too high, then the solution is pretty damn simple…lower my dose. If it’s not, then I may need a small control mechanism.
I really do not want to end up with gyno, that much I know for sure lol. Dr Calkins did want me to start with an AI, which I declined. He told me to use a DIM if I started seeing symptoms. I guess I’ll try that and see if the soreness goes away, and then discontinue if it does, keeping it on hand in case it comes back. When my next bloods are taken that will paint a clearer picture for me.
I’m glad you brought this up. Jay Cambell along with a slew of other doctors are continually coming out against AIs, even those that previously supported their use. Gyno is a condition that you either are or are not genetically predisposition-ed to. The first step to address from all my recent learning is to lower the dose and/or increase injection frequency. Also lifestyle changes are encouraged, lose the excess body fat (for those that applies to), reduce alcohol consumption, anti-inflammatory nutrition etc. AI should absolutely be a last resort and it should only be used short term.