It varies, by provider and location. What are the rules for prescribing a controlled substance, etc.
I get about 3 months worth at a time. In Massachusetts, usa, I think, you can only get 1 month at a time.
OK, got it !
One question : I found an anti-aging clinic which work with “hormone modulation” and “testosterone replacement”.
From what i´ve understood, they want first to optimize our natural production and see if it fixes, by adjusting diet, exercise, etc. Is this worth a try ? I doubt I will ever see any change…but, just want to know from others experience around here.
I think the best scenario is numbers on paper a bit better, improvement in real life how u feel etc ZERO, specially cause your age, to me this approach at your age is waste of money and time, but I may be completely wrong this is just my opinion
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Thanks oldkid. Well, it could be part of their protocol. But I see no one around here wasted time on that. Of course it makes sense but probably only as part of the equation.
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Hi, let’s suppose I would start to replace my T. What would be an adequate dose and frequency considering my SHBG of 25 and Estradiol of 28?
I also usually have hemoglobin at 16/17, Ferritin close to 270 and a hematocrit close to 48-50. PSA is very low.
This may sound like a non sense question, but I’d like to have something to discuss on an appointment in the case a very “spaced in time” protocol is suggested. I’d like to avoid ups and downs and have any sides under control.
100mg a week is a great start and May be all you need.
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The vast majority of guys on TRT use 150-200mg a week. If I am you, I’d start with 140-150. However, your testosterone is so low, you may feel a significant difference with less. SHBG is low enough that you should get a decent free testosterone level with a lower dose. E2 is not a factor for you. Good luck.
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Yes, even tough I have low T ranging from 250 to 380, I felt significantly better when I reached 380.
At that time, my free T rose from 8 to 25 (or 23, can’t remember) and all the good things with it. I was quite ok/good.
I believe I should respond a lot to any external T as I do with any other substance. And that is one of the reasons why I dont know if I am ready to start. Still have a lot of question marks to make clear and weighting the pros and cons. If it doesnt work well in my system, I´m affraid I may come off worse than before I started.
I’d like to find a good andrologist to start and then get the scripts and follow up from the general healthcare/family doctor which can pass me blood tests every 2 months if needed at a good quote. Money is a factor.
Anyway, from all I read over the past 2 years or so, your recomendations seem to coincide with my plan of 50mg to 75mg at Mondays and Thursdays (morning should be better for both). I believe 50mg should be enough. I don’t think once a week or every 2 weeks is acceptable in my case with all the fluctuations associated. Better be off of it!
Hi,
What if TRT for some reason fails? As a coming-off protocol, what would be the best approach ? HCG+Nolva or just cold turkey ?
I can be wrong, but even if the terapeutic T dose is small, it must be very suppresive due to long-term use (more length than a regular cycle). Under these circumstances, what are the chances the balls never recover their function?
This is very important to understand because I don´t want to become more hypogonadal than I already am !
Probably you can try all the bells and whistles; sleep, diet, temperature, low stress, etc.; and see up to double your levels or so, which could work fine for you. Not everyone needs 900+ to feel great.
TRT could give you a big boost, in confidence, performance, gains, etc., especially if you use 1100+ “TRT”. You risk some complications trying this.
I came off for a while and didn’t take long to recover all without any medicine or PCT.
Four and a half weeks was all the time it took for my natural production to return.
It’s very common for guys to recover natural function once TRT is stopped for a time. Guys are coming off all the time to regain fertility, then hop back on and have done this repeatedly over the years.
My ideia was never be at supra-physiological levels unless I would be in the “dial in” phase to understand how i´d respond to the medication and adjust it accordingly.
I would want to be at the minimum effective dosage that would work for me and as a guide be at a maximum of 750 Total and the best free T that I could.
Sorry, I don´t see how I could double my current Total and Free T. Last time I checked I had 250 total or close to. I´ve tried Zinc, magnesium, ZMA (combo), B6, Selenium. D-aspartic acid, Vitamin D3 and Multi-vitamin. I have to try Boron.
These give a boost which is, I believe, is temporary and I do 2 cycles of them a year whenever I´m feeling a bit low. I hit 380 as maximum. I believe I could reach 450 with better sleep. But not more than this.
I still function and some days I feel great ! But I would say I feel great 10% of the days, 70% just OK and 20% I feel like crap. I rarely feel the will to do things and embrace challenges and that´s what is getting more annoying to manage.
I’m at 500 ng/dL and have made significant improvements, Free T is near the top of the ranges.
In the TRT world more isn’t always better.
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Hi system,
I get your point. I just wanted to know what would be worse to recover from : a 2 month T cycle or 1 year on TRT. Is the shutdown recovery made more difficult based on amount or duration of the medication ?
Usually, I hear Nolvadex and HCG is used, specially on cycles, but that´s an approach to T usage that I´m not interested.
Yes. As far as i´ve read from all the users, there´s a point where mood, libido, focus, erections and overall well being is usually reached at lower dosages.
After this point the only thing that sees improvement is usually at the gym with consequences to all others.
I can be wrong, but I get this impression.
Do you think sides come up with proper TRT levels, the way we both look at it?
I was on TRT for two and a half years, recovered quickly. I’m sure mileage varies and that longer duration on TRT might require the use of a PCT, but recover is likely but you might not return to baseline because you are getting older and natural testosterone declining whether you’re on TRT or not.
Are you brazillian? Where did you find a doctor that prescribes TRT? I only found via telemedicine
Good point there.
Sometimes I get the feeling my T will not drop any below the current levels of 250-350. They just came down before their time.
But looking back when I was 15-21, I am sure they must have been great in that time.
No, sorry I am not Brazilian, nor I live in brazil.
I am just low on testosterone but I don´t do TRT.