Just got the latest blood test results from 4/7 (in parenthesis results from (3/31, 3/10, 2/12, 1/29 and 1/15)
Testosterone: 619 (585, 735, 848, 553, 712) range 348 - 1197
Free testosterone: 12.5 (11.5, 20.5, 13.3, 10.7, 12.6) range 6.8 - 21.5
DHEA-S: 313.6 (277.4, 797.2, 318.7, 120.7, 225.2) range 102.6 - 416.3
Estradiol: 12.6 (17.4, 31.3, 47.0, 28.8, 36.1) range 7.6 - 42.6
PSA: 1.2 (1.3, 1.3,1.2, 1.0 , 1.1) range 0.0 - 4.0
Same laboratory used every time. Same rest, fasting before test as well as same time of day 8:00AM.
These after DHEA @ 50mg /day and anastrozole to 0.175mg /day and HCG 250UI E3D (3 times a week)).
Haven’t felt too good. New plan: increase DHEA to 75mg/day (50mg morning and 25 mg evening) and decrease anastrozole to 0.1mg/day and keep HCG at 250UI E3D and keep 2 days off from anastrozole.
I would up DHEA before taking anastrozole down. That can sometimes increase E2. Are you using micronized? I got really good results from life extension micronized. Better than the transdermal I’m taking now.
[quote]dhickey wrote:
I would up DHEA before taking anastrozole down. That can sometimes increase E2. Are you using micronized? I got really good results from life extension micronized. Better than the transdermal I’m taking now.[/quote]
Up how much? I plan to up to 75mg from 50mg. It is micronized (pure encapsulations). Thanks
I can’t believe some idiot Dr would offer someone TRT with a total T of 712. That Dr is a criminal.
Peps are garbage with zippo results. HGH is good stuff but watch out for gyno. I couldn’t tolerate more than 2iu a day. It really varies from manufacturer to manufacturer.
Personally I think you’re playing with fire for no reason. Stay away from all of this stuff and enjoy life. You have perfect labs and there is no reason to mess around.
I tried staying away from all for 2 weeks and did not feel good.
So I decided to go all the way in, now I am doing the following:
Test Cyp 90mg M/W/F
HCG 200UI ED
Anastrozole 0.18mg ED
Methylcobalamin B12 1mg/week
IGF-1 Lr3 60mg/ED
GHRP-2/GHRP-6/Sermorelin 240mcg *3 day
DHEA 50+50mg day
My new Test prescription is for 400mg/week! So I could use a lot more if needed or reduce and do cycle and keep lower normal dosage.
I started this last Saturday and I feel better. My plan is to have next blood test taken on Monday (is it too early?). Other comments are also very welcome.
That’s a lot of shit. Perfect example of the shotgun approach. Going to be even harder to dial that in, and really tough to sort when it gets to be a pain in the ass and you want to come off. Not the route I would take.
Might well be a shotgun approach, but I’m not very patient. I also did front loading by injecting extra 300mg today. This should lead to steady state faster than without it (assuming natural production is shut off). So far I feel better. I’ll keep this thread updated how it goes.
Ok, latest blood test results from 5/5 (old results not included as they were based on the body’s own production):
Testosterone: >1500 range 348 - 1197
Free testosterone: >50 range 6.8 - 21.5 (with comment that verified by repeat analysis)
DHEA-S: 300 range 102.6 - 416.3
Estradiol: 127.1 range 7.6 - 42.6
PSA: 1.5 range 0.0 - 4.0
This after 300mg/week (100mg MWF) test cyp. So Test and Free test well above physiological limits. And maybe I should start a thread on the Steroids forum? Definitely based on Test levels for the first cycle 300mg/week should be enough. Note that the results for test:
A) Are minimum levels (labs taken monday morning with max time from previous injection)
B) Values just refer that the levels are above 1500 and 50, how much above would be purely quesswork.
Anyhow this was the schedule before this labs:
Test Cyp 100mg M/W/F
HCG 250UI Tues/Thurs/Sat/Sun
Anastrozole 0.18mg EOD
Methylcobalamin B12 1mg/week
IGF-1 Lr3 50mg/ED
(I dropped GHRP and DHEA ).
Estradiol way too high as expected.
Plan is to up Anastrozole to 0.2mg ED. Is this enough or should I try 0.25 ED (or 0.5mg Tues/Thurs/Sat/Sun)?
And please, let me know if I should start new thread on the Steroids forum.
hi, i was looking for just this kind of question, as i myself have recently started the sermorelin treatment, i also had a high testosterone level on my initial bloodwork ( 780) , so the doc put me on sermorelin and not testosteron treatment… i was a bit disapointed as i am 48 now and wanted a boost in my testosterone to increase muscle mass and decrease fat,
i am currently 48yo. 172 lbs, 5’9" and 17-19% bf… i would like to get to 10-12 % bf, and maintain same weight… obviously a much lener look with the lower bf %, i am wondering if anyone has any info on me sticking with what the doc recommended with the sermorelin but adding androgel test (the 1% gel application ) to the sermorelin, i will add that the bloodwork did say i was on the upper side of high on my estrogen,
sorry if i am not too technical, i am new to the testosterone scene, , i found out i was not low on t. from the bloodwork, would have bet i was due to my labido going down in the last few years, and my muscle mass decreasing over the same, i have always beed fit both physically and mentally (sexually) , i just want to not only stay in the game, but take it up a notch, i dont want to go the super body builder size but i do want to get to a really lean cut muscular phisique, i currently put about 15 hours per week at the gym and just dont seem to see the gains for the time spent, any help would be great ,
I have used sermorelin with ghrp-6 for two years and results were poor; it was from a compounding Pharmacy, so I know it’s legit. Also tried IGF1-LR3 more pro-active peptide hard to get legit saw no benefits. I thinks IGF1 compounds are also supposed to lower blood sugar; it did/t for me.
Now I’m not fooling around anymore- Taking 4 IUS of Authentic Jintropin Mon-Friday 6 Pumps of Androgel 6 daily every day of week except Sunday; and Ta-65 with Resveratrol to jack up my Telomeres. I’m 71 ok? , but getting stronger and have more endurance every week. I also work out 6 days a week and do fast walking 6 days a week ( aerobic part) Mon - Push Tues Pull Wed Legs Hips Lower Back. Works like a God-Send.
I have read that if you do full slow lifts , all the way out and all the way up you can avoid stretching.However, if you do , say running only a couple times a week, best stretch your calves and hamstrings and Quads or you will be sore as Hillary Clinton is about Donald Trump :O)). Strength training and 200 grams of protein a day Trumps everything; unless your IGF1 levels, and T levels are sub par; then you need to jack them up to levels of a 30 year old. {}{}{}{}====={}{}{}{} < # 1.
For the gentleman using the supplements ; look into Life Extensions Vit/Min 14 cap daily and it covers 99% of anything you might need for any health help.
Sermorelin and GHRP-6 or 5 bought on the net- 90% are fake ok?? Get it from a Compounding USA legit Pharmacy. Doctors will prescribe it, unlike HGH unless your a midget under 13 years old or your IGF1 (HGH levels) are Extremely Low. I know, been there.
If your total testosterone is 712, your E2 of 36 is NOT high.... it's damn near perfect. I can't see even going to the trouble of screwing with adex to try and lower it to the magical number of E=22. If you are going on TRT, it's probably a good idea to NOT use Adex until you get your first lab results from being on TRT. You need to see how your body responds to an exogenous source of testosterone before you try and fine tune all the details.
I'm not sure why you even want to jump on the TRT bandwagon with numbers like yours. TRT is for people who need it. If your doctor whips out his prescription pad so easily.... you should ask him for fun stuff like Nuvigil and Selegiline... and maybe some Cialis.
Your free T is 126. My free test was 67 when I started TRT, I felt like superman at the gym when I got my free test up to 128 (100mg a week). My last labs posted it at 163 (125mg a week). I can't tell any difference at the gym at 126 vs 163. You are NOT going to experience any radical changes with 200mg of test a week when your free test wasn't low in the first place. 200mg a week is a really high starting dose for TRT. All you are going to probably end up doing is screwing up your hormones for the rest of your life, and probably break out with acne on your chest, shoulders, and back.
At 44yrs old, if you decide to just do a cycle with 400mg a week for 10 weeks, there is a pretty good chance your going to wind up on TRT just due to the fact you messed your system up and your post cycle recovery didn't get you back to the great numbers you previously had.
And another thing…400mg a week is like a beginners cycle… you really need more like 500 - 1000. And as long as you are doing that… you should add in some Trenbolone, and perhaps some Anadrol, and maybe some Dianabol. Make it worth your while. You are a man right ? More is always better !!
Perhaps this is the wrong forum for you ?, you might want to visit the steroid forum on this website.
I did not see that johnsmith1970 ever posted IGF-1 results VS his Rx.
Dymitryy:
This “E2 of 36 is NOT high… it’s damn near perfect”
is retarded because is it not true because many/most guys at those levels feel horrible.
johnsmith1970:
Estradiol: 127.1 range 7.6 - 42.6 at anastrozole to 0.15mg /day
Target is E2=22pg/ml.
New anastrozole dose is .18mg EOD x 127.1/22 = ~0.5 mg/day, 300mg T/week
That is 3.5mg/week and we expect a nominal 3mg/week for 300mg/week T for normal anastrozole responders
You need to adjust anastrozole on cycle.