200mg/week Test C for 8 months. Blood pressure was slightly elevated during the day. 135/87 average
Added 200mg/Week Deca for last 4 weeks and having INSANE blood pressure spikes. Up to 178/117, although average has been 158/108.
After 4 weeks and realizing the severity of my blood pressure issues I stopped taking Deca and my doctor put me on Lisinopril at 10mg per day. I’ve taken 4 days worth of pills with no change to blood pressure. Increased to 20mg per day, for the last 2 days and still no change to average BP. I have blood yesterday, my thickness was high, 18.8.
I know Deca can cause blood pressure issues, but is this extreme?
TRT influences and increases the kidneys absorption of sodium, sodium carries water, which leadings to fluid retention and blood pressure spikes that can follow peaks and valleys of rising and declining hormone levels.
It would be best if you were on a blood pressure medicine like Losartan.
Your blood pressure spikes, most likely have nothing to do with the thickness of your blood, because the vascular bed expands (by action of nitric oxide) to account for the increased viscosity.
The problem is the TRT induced sodium reabsorption via the kidneys.
I’d admit my last donation two weeks ago, right afterwards, my energy levels increased substantially. My hematocrit was 59%. A week ago I figure out I don’t need my large dosage of iron supplement anymore.
Once I corrected the vitamin D deficiency, found a year after starting the iron supplements, I should have stopped the iron.
I expect my hematocrit to drop below 50% at which point I think I can get my doctor to increase my Jatenzo.
My blood pressure is unchanged though. I never got any fluid retention on TRT, at any dosage.
I think it comes down to viscosity. There is a limiting return to oxygenated bloods benefit if it can’t travel appropriately.
I’m not a scientist but it seems to me that being “high normal” likely is the athletic/performance advantage TRT gives in this regard, but going above becomes problematic, and more isn’t necessarily better. Pushing sludge is not only a strain on the cardiovascular system, but does jot provide efficient transport for benefit.
Iron supplementation seems like a diet fad that may have had a very specific use case and then became generally accepted as a good practice. Maybe different for women and their periods but I doubt many men without specific health deficiencies somehow related to iron retention experience low levels, and again benefit seems to have a limiting return.
For fun, check out iron excess and disease. It’s an interesting rabbit hole.
I believe the iron supplementation and the high hematocrit are separate issues, where as if I had the higher hematocrit without the iron supplements, and a higher TRT/Jatenzo dosage driving up the hematocrit, I believe I wouldn’t have these same issues.
I still have some minor joint and gum inflammation, heart flutters and slight dehydration which are all signs of too much iron. I only stopped the iron a little more than a week ago.
