I always get a very chubby face/neck on cycle , even tho my body fat dosent go up, after i come of cycle it comes down a tiny bit after around 4-6 weeks but still stays quite bad after that.
my jaw has also got bigger ( like jay cutlers ) but i dont mind that.
ive tried doing alot of cardio , drinking a huge amount of water, tanning , taking antioxidiants , proviron and nolvadex but it only helps very slightley slightley.
even with 300 test and 500 eq a week its very bloated , however i look leaner and am happy with my strength gains.
what cycle is good for someone who is prone to getting a bloated face on cycle , or what measures can be taken to reduce it.
[quote]steaders88 wrote:
ive been taking 50mg of proviron and 20 mg nolvadex a day , ive never tried arimedex as the only place i can get it is very expensive[/quote]
Then you need to find a new place. Adex isn’t that hard to find, and it’s relatively cheap. It’ll make a huge difference.
I also find that eating low carb (thanks prisoner) helps a lot with bloating.
I am one person that puffs up like a balloon even with small amounts of aromatizing gear…my last cycle I ate low carb and ran an AI throughout and I was fine. One weekend out of that I went to a weekend long keg party and I looked like i gained 5 pounds in my face…took a few days of eating low carb for it to go away.
apart from lowering carbs and salt , what else cud help as i am seeing alot of family i havent seen in years soon at a wedding , and i dont want my face to be huge especially if photographs may be taken of me.
my neck usually gains about an inch to an inch and a half. not much you can do about that.
As for carbs I wouldn’t worry about total grams, I just drop all refined sugars/starches…no pasta, rice, bread, etc unless it is right after working out as an occasional thing…limit your intake of high starch veggies like potatoes and your fruits throughout the day, again fine to have occasionally but best to limit. green veggies are fine to eat as much as you want but best to eat during the day.
A typical day of eating looked like this for me:
breakfast - 4 egg omlette, cheese, spinach, mushrooms, etc, handfull of strawberries, fish oil, multivit
snack - handfull almonds and low carb protein shake
Lunch - chicken salad with an oil and balsamic
Pre-workout - 10-15g BCAA and 5g creatine in water or low carb sport drink
Post Workout - protein shake (reg carb), 10g creatine, with some pineapple or berries blended in
Dinner - steak, broccoli, and asparagus
Late night - cottage cheese and fish oil
Old post, but wanted to point out that I saw elsewhere that eq causes face bloat. Might not create a lot of estradiol, but it creates a ton of estrone, and, of course, test creates estradiol. What I’ve loved for both cruise and blast is a roughly equal dosage of mast and test. Last cruise was 25mg test 20mg mast daily. Face was unusually lean and attractive. Blasted 250 test 200 test/day, and face still looked great. Prior to that, I added 40mg per day to my original cruise, and face puffed up. Came down, of course, when I dropped tren (actually for mood reasons–they tanked hard after 4 weeks), and ramped up the test/mast. Now, I accidentally ran out of mast (though some is coming tomorrow), and switched to some eq I had lying around because some say you can use it just like primo (not true for many reasons, at least as far as I’m concerned). Now, my face is puffy and unattractive. No more eq ever if I can help it.
It’s not just aromatisation but modulation of RAAS which leads to systemic retention of fluid
Anecdotally when I still messed around with AAS I noticed what you are saying… Masteron + anything = no facial bloat (actually my face looked LEANER on mast). But on literally anything else… even like primo etc I had facial bloat!
So my biggest cycle was
250mg test
10-15mg dbol
100mg mast
I ran that for 6-8 weeks, 2 weeks on 2 weeks off with the dbol. I was very conservative with dosing… except this isn’t conservative because if you include the mast and the dbol it’s the equivalent of 450-500mg of esterified hormone per week which is mildISH but it’s not like I was running nothing there… it’s easily 3-5x trt.
No more eq ever if I can help it.