[quote]Defekt wrote:
This is so awesome
Its not even describable. I will defiantly be considering the military when that time comes around. [/quote]
If it’s so awsome, what are you waiting for, hero?
[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
Defekt wrote:
This is so awesome
Its not even describable. I will defiantly be considering the military when that time comes around.
If it’s so awsome, what are you waiting for, hero?
[/quote]
Highschool graduation, prick.
[quote]Defekt wrote:
What are the chances of actually being accepted into blackwater with no active duty? Are there other steps you can go through to make your application seem more worthy? [/quote]
I hear special forces training is something they value. Highway patrol would get you nowhere obviously.
[quote]hunterthompson wrote:
dude you’re 16. you’re outlook on life will probably be completely different five years from now. hell probably 2 years from now. so you do have a lot of growing up to do.
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I realize this. I’ve been wanting to join the military since I was 5. The only reason I can see myself changing my mind is if I have a really good reason to stay here, ie: wife and kids, when the time comes around.
If thats the case I’ll probably look into becoming a police officer, or a similar job that doesn’t require going overseas. I can’t see myself working an office job, ever really.
[quote]Defekt wrote:
Loose Tool wrote:
Defekt wrote:
This is so awesome
Its not even describable. I will defiantly be considering the military when that time comes around.
If it’s so awsome, what are you waiting for, hero?
Highschool graduation, prick. [/quote]
Nothing like the enthusiasm of the child.
[quote]Defekt wrote:
hunterthompson wrote:
dude you’re 16. you’re outlook on life will probably be completely different five years from now. hell probably 2 years from now. so you do have a lot of growing up to do.
I realize this. I’ve been wanting to join the military since I was 5. The only reason I can see myself changing my mind is if I have a really good reason to stay here, ie: wife and kids, when the time comes around. If thats the case I’ll probably look into becoming a police officer, or a similar job that doesn’t require going overseas. I can’t see myself working an office job, ever really. [/quote]
Waffling already.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Defekt wrote:
What are the chances of actually being accepted into blackwater with no active duty? Are there other steps you can go through to make your application seem more worthy?
I hear special forces training is something they value. Highway patrol would get you nowhere obviously.[/quote]
Thanks, I’ll look into it. From what I’ve seen (I haven’t done much looking around honestly) they offer a number of training programs, completion of a number of those would grant me better chances of being accepted I assume.
Is there any real chance of making it with no active duty? If you don’t know thats okay.
[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
Defekt wrote:
hunterthompson wrote:
dude you’re 16. you’re outlook on life will probably be completely different five years from now. hell probably 2 years from now. so you do have a lot of growing up to do.
I realize this. I’ve been wanting to join the military since I was 5. The only reason I can see myself changing my mind is if I have a really good reason to stay here, ie: wife and kids, when the time comes around. If thats the case I’ll probably look into becoming a police officer, or a similar job that doesn’t require going overseas. I can’t see myself working an office job, ever really.
Waffling already.
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You’re an idiot.
[quote]Defekt wrote:
hunterthompson wrote:
dude you’re 16. you’re outlook on life will probably be completely different five years from now. hell probably 2 years from now. so you do have a lot of growing up to do.
I realize this. I’ve been wanting to join the military since I was 5. The only reason I can see myself changing my mind is if I have a really good reason to stay here, ie: wife and kids, when the time comes around. If thats the case I’ll probably look into becoming a police officer, or a similar job that doesn’t require going overseas. I can’t see myself working an office job, ever really. [/quote]
You and me are the same way, You wanting to go infantry or what? The month after I turned 18 I joined the infantry, made it to week 11 and recked myself, I got one more year to go before I go back in. Hope you keep this dream up I hope to see you there.
Good luck and God bless man.
[quote]John S. wrote:
Defekt wrote:
hunterthompson wrote:
dude you’re 16. you’re outlook on life will probably be completely different five years from now. hell probably 2 years from now. so you do have a lot of growing up to do.
I realize this. I’ve been wanting to join the military since I was 5. The only reason I can see myself changing my mind is if I have a really good reason to stay here, ie: wife and kids, when the time comes around. If thats the case I’ll probably look into becoming a police officer, or a similar job that doesn’t require going overseas. I can’t see myself working an office job, ever really.
You and me are the same way, You wanting to go infantry or what? The month after I turned 18 I joined the infantry, made it to week 11 and recked myself, I got one more year to go before I go back in. Hope you keep this dream up I hope to see you there.
Good luck and God bless man.[/quote]
I want to be in a position on the front lines, infantry seems to be where its at. Eventually the goal is to go through special forces training and be part of the elite. If it were possible to go through training and be directly accepted into blackwater/seals/rangers ect.
I’d try to go that route. (yes I know blackwater isn’t part of the US military, I listed them with seals/rangers because they fit the category of ‘elite’)
[quote]lixy wrote:
Defekt wrote:
ravell wrote:
It sounds to me like you just want the respect (fear) that comes with being on the same team as a bunch of high tech killing machines.
Correct.
Hence, the “grow up” earlier.[/quote]
What an insecure little bitch living in his fantasy world! Pathetic or just hilarious? Both.
[quote]Franck wrote:
lixy wrote:
Defekt wrote:
ravell wrote:
It sounds to me like you just want the respect (fear) that comes with being on the same team as a bunch of high tech killing machines.
Correct.
Hence, the “grow up” earlier.
What an insecure little bitch living in his fantasy world…pathetic or just hilarious? Both.
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I don’t know who you are so angry at, or why.
[quote]Defekt wrote:
John S. wrote:
Defekt wrote:
hunterthompson wrote:
dude you’re 16. you’re outlook on life will probably be completely different five years from now. hell probably 2 years from now. so you do have a lot of growing up to do.
I realize this. I’ve been wanting to join the military since I was 5. The only reason I can see myself changing my mind is if I have a really good reason to stay here, ie: wife and kids, when the time comes around. If thats the case I’ll probably look into becoming a police officer, or a similar job that doesn’t require going overseas. I can’t see myself working an office job, ever really.
You and me are the same way, You wanting to go infantry or what? The month after I turned 18 I joined the infantry, made it to week 11 and recked myself, I got one more year to go before I go back in. Hope you keep this dream up I hope to see you there.
Good luck and God bless man.
I want to be in a position on the front lines, infantry seems to be where its at. Eventually the goal is to go through special forces training and be part of the elite. If it were possible to go through training and be directly accepted into blackwater/seals/rangers ect.
I’d try to go that route. (yes I know blackwater isn’t part of the US military, I listed them with seals/rangers because they fit the category of ‘elite’) [/quote]
If you go infantry make sure you get a ranger contract, make sure you start training for the army now if that is where you see yourself going.
[quote]John S. wrote:
Defekt wrote:
John S. wrote:
Defekt wrote:
hunterthompson wrote:
dude you’re 16. you’re outlook on life will probably be completely different five years from now. hell probably 2 years from now. so you do have a lot of growing up to do.
I realize this. I’ve been wanting to join the military since I was 5. The only reason I can see myself changing my mind is if I have a really good reason to stay here, ie: wife and kids, when the time comes around. If thats the case I’ll probably look into becoming a police officer, or a similar job that doesn’t require going overseas. I can’t see myself working an office job, ever really.
You and me are the same way, You wanting to go infantry or what? The month after I turned 18 I joined the infantry, made it to week 11 and recked myself, I got one more year to go before I go back in. Hope you keep this dream up I hope to see you there.
Good luck and God bless man.
I want to be in a position on the front lines, infantry seems to be where its at. Eventually the goal is to go through special forces training and be part of the elite.
If it were possible to go through training and be directly accepted into blackwater/seals/rangers ect. I’d try to go that route. (yes I know blackwater isn’t part of the US military, I listed them with seals/rangers because they fit the category of ‘elite’)
If you go infantry make sure you get a ranger contract, make sure you start training for the army now if that is where you see yourself going.[/quote]
Will do, thanks.
You haven’t really given many good reasons why you would want to do this besides: it’s awesome, i was born to do it, it appeals to me, i want to be in the “elite.”
Are you planning on being a grunt your entire life? What do you want to do after all the fighting is over? Do your parents know you want to do this? Is there any principle that you’re basing this decision on?
Not trying to grill you I would just like to know. This is a big decision to make and I wouldn’t want someone to do it if they aren’t prepared because it’s not something you can’t just drop once you get into it. BTW do you have any firearm experience?
Maybe hunting or marksmanship stuff? I’m not talking about a bunch of teenagers going rambo on a milk jug or something with his dad’s little pistol.
“Are you planning on being a grunt your entire life?”:
If I made it into blackwater, I think they do pay very well. I could work for them for 10 years, come home and retire. If not, working part time should be enough to sustain myself if I invest my money correctly.
“What do you want to do after all the fighting is over?”
If I was unable to retire, probably police work or security.
“Do your parents know you want to do this?”
They of course are against it, but understand It’s something I want to do. I think the idea of me getting shot at is their main problem.
“Is there any principle that you’re basing this decision on?”
Not really. The basic idea has appealed to me since a young age.
“BTW do you have any firearm experience? Maybe hunting or marksmanship stuff?”
Not very much. Thats something I’ll have to work on. I’ve gone to the shooting range a couple of times but nothing really noteworthy. I’m beginning to go more, hopefully it will help somewhat, but I realize I’ll have to train that aspect more.
[quote]Defekt wrote:
“BTW do you have any firearm experience? Maybe hunting or marksmanship stuff?”
Not very much. Thats something I’ll have to work on. I’ve gone to the shooting range a couple of times but nothing really noteworthy. I’m beginning to go more, hopefully it will help somewhat, but I realize I’ll have to train that aspect more.
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Don’t worry about firearm training, you will do enough of that in basic.
[quote]Defekt wrote:
Franck wrote:
lixy wrote:
Defekt wrote:
ravell wrote:
It sounds to me like you just want the respect (fear) that comes with being on the same team as a bunch of high tech killing machines.
Correct.
Hence, the “grow up” earlier.
What an insecure little bitch living in his fantasy world…pathetic or just hilarious? Both.
I don’t know who you are so angry at, or why. [/quote]
You reap what you sow. Cramming your pants over some dude shooting an M110 at a bunch of bedouins gets you little respect around here.
Anyway, active duty doesn’t guarantee you’ll get in. There’s no public domain stats from Blackwater’s RH, but it’s safe to assume that they’d be happy to recycle any professional who demonstrates ruthlessness. Like I said, the company is increasingly recruiting from foreign countries. I have a Filipino friend whose great-uncle got recruited. The man never did anything more than cop work (granted, under Marcos).
Blackwater is something that will get insanely big in the long term. And it’s not like the US army’s standards are getting higher either. So you should have good chances even as a cop. Just go SWAT or something similar.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Defekt wrote:
Franck wrote:
lixy wrote:
Defekt wrote:
ravell wrote:
It sounds to me like you just want the respect (fear) that comes with being on the same team as a bunch of high tech killing machines.
Correct.
Hence, the “grow up” earlier.
What an insecure little bitch living in his fantasy world…pathetic or just hilarious? Both.
I don’t know who you are so angry at, or why.
You reap what you sow. Cramming your pants over some dude shooting an M110 at a bunch of bedouins gets you little respect around here.
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If someone is willing to feel disrespect so strongly toward someone because they find a video exciting or cool, their respect isn’t really worth much.
Thanks for the rest of your post, any information is great.
Do you have any friends in the military? Have you spoken any guys you have been in combat? I think you’ll find that the experience is a lot different then you think.
It’s not all about going around shooting A’rabs and blowing shit up. It is a lot of tedium and downtime intermixed with usually brief periods of action. If your lower enlisted you’ll spend a lot more of your time digging ditches and doing odd jobs more then anything else.
Hope you like disposing of other people waste? Not to mention all the shit you are going to have to put up from clueless lieutenants and NCO’s who earned their stripes from going to boards. Serving is one of the proudest things I’ve done but be prepared for not so great things that come with.
You sound like you are attracted to the glory and honor and what not of combat. That is a myth. Combat is all about controlled chaos. I was in the military in peace time but the one thing I learned from the vets and through training is that you don’t rise to the occasion and go Rambo on someone under stress you fall to to the level of your training.
Can you maintain your ability to carry out your mission when your tired, sore, sleep deprived, hungry, pumped full of adrenaline? It’s all about discipline. Anyone can perform under good conditions but can you when shit hits the fan and your dog tired.
It’s not personal motivations like being awsomes awsome or badass that keeps you going it’s what the Army calls esprit de corp. It’s the idea that no matter what you cannot let down the people around you. This is what the military instills in you from day one. I didn’t even particularly like some people in my unit but damn if I’d let them down. This is the genius of western military discipline.
Are you aware of the selection process for special forces? Those guys are the elite of the elite of people serving. It may seem easy looking from the outside looking in but even among the elite the completion rate for SEALS is something like 30 percent (out of me memory and out of my ass).
I’m sure you look at these shows on the History Channel or the Military Channel and think I could do that but much like watching pro sports on TV you don’t actually realize the actual intensity until you are there.
Basic is physically farley easy considering that you are in decent cardiovascular shape but some of the more advanced schools require great dedication and discipline. They are not looking for killing machines as the mission of many special forces is not open combat but reconnaissance in nature. These guys are the best of the best mentally as well as physically. Most tend to be older and educated.
Anyways good luck with your goals. Just be prepared for what you will face and keep an open mind. Don’t worry overly much about firearms training.
I hadn’t fired a weapon before joining the military and I never had a problem qualifying. You’ll get plenty of training there. My one concern is your motives. You need to think about what it means to take someone else’s life. I was in an MLRS unit which means that if I hit a button hundreds could die. Never had to do it for real but it’s not something to take lightly.