Black Vote by State

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]mmllcc wrote:

You ignorant fool. Obama is a pure Marxist…and I was not on stage with him last night nor will I ever be on stage with a seditious Marxist like him. No American generation will study the events of last night because in 4 years there won’t be an America to study.

You and your ilk have killed us all with your foolish choice.[/quote]

Um, My ilk?

Would that be people who can see beyond ourselves? People that can understand more than one thing at once. People that can separate two issues from each other? People that can read, and understand the post they are replying to?

If you took two seconds to read what I wrote, you would understand I made no mention of his polices, or whether or not I believe in his politics.

If you can’t understand the significance of last night, why, for at least today, it makes us a stronger, more respected nation around the world, then you lack basic knowledge of the human race.

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[quote]Odogg wrote:
Just going to post one example for you retards who act like this is the FIRST TIME A DEMOCRAT got over 90% of the black vote. Black people are DEMOCRATS, the party of Kennedy and LBJ!! You know, Civil rights were kind of a big issue back in '68. I guess you never heard of Nixon’s southern strategy? Anybody?? Bueller, Bueller?

Here is Michael Steele (Who’s Black) voting results against a White Candiate Cardin in 2006 for Maryland’s Senate Seat.

Steel Black Vote % 25

Cardin Black Vote % 75

3 OUT OF 4 Blacks went with the white dude. Please explain this to me since they all vote for only there kind.

Another example Lynn Swann against Rendell in Pennsylvania

Rendell Black Vote 87%

Lynn Swann’s Black vote 13%

Was it race?? You Decide!![/quote]

This brings up a point that people seem to be missing. The majority of black people won’t vote for a black conservative, only a liberal one. Lynn Swann is a perfect example of this. If Obama was a Republican, they would see him as an Uncle Tom.

The fact that Obama is black and liberal makes him the perfect candidate.

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[quote]belligerent wrote:
No need to ‘measure’ anything, just look around you and make a casual observation of the way people are behaving… racially obsessed black people who clearly care about nothing else but having a black president and nutless pandering white people desperate to prove how happy they are that black people are having their day and how down they are with ‘their’ new black president. Like a bunch of libtard hippie faggots holding hands around the rainbow.[/quote]

Listen to yourself, you’re the racially obsessed one! As I stated, poor blacks voting for Obama because of his socialist policies are voting in THEIR OWN INTEREST as far as they are concerned! That means that they would have voted a purple fucking candidate with the same views. Or do you honestly believe that the black vote isn’t sophisticated enough to understand this?

Secondly, people are emotional because people (including me) perceive that racism DOES exist in cities all across this country and many of us would never have believed even 5 years ago that today we would have a black president-elect. It’s just fucking SHOCKING.

But mostly I’m just ambivalent and hopeful that Obama won’t fuck up as bad as Bush regarding foreign policy.

And it would be unfair not to admit that if an entire generation of men grew up and DON’T end up in jail simply as a result of the psychological effect of seeing a black president on TV during their formative years then I get all soft and mushy inside. I don’t call it justice when blacks in my country don’t have to feel degraded. I call it fucking human.

I’ll share a nugget with you that I haven’t given out to too many people. For six months I taught econ to the same population portrayed in the television show “The Wire,” quite literally. They were all felons from Baltimore and Baltimore county etc… I was explaining to my class the benefit of using a bank and one of my more outspoken students stated simply “We don’t go to banks, cause when we walk in we feel like niggers.” That is the face of racism. Right or wrong, huge groups of the population take it for granted that they are excluded from things many Americans take for granted, like BANKS. Ask them why? Is the excuse rational? Are they listening to you? No. But they will have to face up to the truth that society wants them on the inside only under certain conditions, and that it’s worth the trade off for them because it’s their best chance at happiness.

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[quote]phil_leotardo wrote:
beebuddy wrote:

It’s quite an interesting and creative stretch to interpret “not have to worry” as “receive free goods.” hurf durf hurrr

Not really. People use that expression all of the time when they are getting something for nothing.

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Who are these people, where are they speaking this way?

You do realize that the woman in the video was much more likely expressing her, arguably naive, belief that somehow Obama policy will push prices at the pump downwards, don’t you? I mean it seemed pretty obvious to me what she meant.

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And as an aside, I believe good policy CAN do this. Let’s hope for change when it comes to Obama’s energy policy, cause ‘inflating our tires’ aint gonna work.

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[quote]beebuddy wrote:

Who are these people, where are they speaking this way? [/quote]

People speak like this all of the time…
“Don’t worry about the bill, I’ll take care of it…”

“Don’t worry about driving there, I’ll take you”

The expression definitely implies that someone giving something away for free.

[quote]beebuddy wrote:

You do realize that the woman in the video was much more likely expressing her, arguably naive, belief that somehow Obama policy will push prices at the pump downwards, don’t you? I mean it seemed pretty obvious to me what she meant.[/quote]

Even if her IQ was that high… How is an Obama presidency going to push her mortgage payments downwards?

Also, what part of his energy policy is going to make gasoline cheaper? I don’t even remember reading that as his website; he seems interested in finding alternatives to fossil fuels, most of which are actually more expensive than gasoline.

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[quote]beebuddy wrote:
And as an aside, I believe good policy CAN do this. Let’s hope for change when it comes to Obama’s energy policy, cause ‘inflating our tires’ aint gonna work. [/quote]

He is for ethanol which a) can’t replace gasoline and b) raises food prices and pollutes the environment too.

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[quote]phil_leotardo wrote:
beebuddy wrote:

Who are these people, where are they speaking this way?

People speak like this all of the time…
“Don’t worry about the bill, I’ll take care of it…”

“Don’t worry about driving there, I’ll take you”

The expression definitely implies that someone giving something away for free.
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I watched it again and she clearly believes that the federal government will somehow “fix the economy.” She did not look or speak like welfare trash.

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[quote]phil_leotardo wrote:
beebuddy wrote:
And as an aside, I believe good policy CAN do this. Let’s hope for change when it comes to Obama’s energy policy, cause ‘inflating our tires’ aint gonna work.

He is for ethanol which a) can’t replace gasoline and b) raises food prices and pollutes the environment too.

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I hesitate to even call Obama’s energy policy “policy.” This is one of my biggest gripes with him and the dems in the house & senate. They need to wake up, cause it’s a small vocal minority in the party that doesn’t want a strong and sensible energy policy IMO. I’ve said it before, we need to at least announce plans to drill in order to manipulate the futures market, if not actually drill the fuck out of everything, while working to subsidize private and public research of alternative energy sources other than ethanol. We also need to start building some nuclear plants NOW.

I think this is reasonable and most Americans would probably agree.

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[quote]RebornTN wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
racists.

I can’t tell if your being sarcastic, but that is actually what this election looked like to me.

People who simply wanted to see a black president for the sake of a black president. That’s the only logical reason I see people voting for someone with that much controversy around him.

Enlighten me anyone?[/quote]

You need to grow up and look up the definition of racism. The semantics of the word seem to be lost on many of the people who attempt to use it, regardless of political affiliation.

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[quote]mmllcc wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
Professor X wrote:

My grandfather cried when Obama was elected.

I cried too.

I know I have no idea what it is like to be black in America, or grow up through some of the most difficult of times for a group of people, but I know what a lot of white people in America think about black people. It amazes me to no end that white people assume I’m ignorant because they are. What is scary is what is said and believed behind closed doors, and the astounding number of total ignorant fools that are in America.

When Obama made his speech last night, it sunk in. I am no longer lying to my son when I tell him he can be anything he wants, anything he tries hard enough to be. This proves that America, for whatever reason, can open their eyes, open their hearts, and more importantly, open their minds.

Politics ASIDE, all of America stood on that stage with Obama last night, and took back a little piece of itself that we had lost, proving to the world, we stand as leader of the free world. Not with just bullets, but with the ability to look past our weaknesses, to see more than skin, only to hold up the American Dream, and again know it is true, anything is possible here.

I’m not going to worry about what may or may not happen to America under Obama for the next few days. I’m going to use the next few weeks to be proud of America, to be proud to be a part of what might be one of the most memorable moments in world history. This morning will be written about and studied for generations.

You ignorant fool. Obama is a pure Marxist…and I was not on stage with him last night nor will I ever be on stage with a seditious Marxist like him. No American generation will study the events of last night because in 4 years there won’t be an America to study.

You and your ilk have killed us all with your foolish choice.[/quote]

You’re a joke.

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Ask NOT what you can do for YOUR Country, ask, what YOUR Country can do for YOU! This is the expectation that HAS been set.
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beautifully put! “Y’al need to gimme,gimme,gimme, cause we really aint doin’ shit for it now.” Its reparation time!!!

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[quote]beebuddy wrote:
RebornTN wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
racists.

I can’t tell if your being sarcastic, but that is actually what this election looked like to me.

People who simply wanted to see a black president for the sake of a black president. That’s the only logical reason I see people voting for someone with that much controversy around him.

Enlighten me anyone?

Two things… How can we measure ‘white guilt’ if that’s what we assume prompted this vote, and can we seriously blame poor classes for voting for a socialist leaning candidate if putting food on the table TOMORROW is perceived as a problem?

Ultimately, the argument is grossly oversimplified. We shouldn’t ignore the foreign policy positions of Americans, especially when we consider the lack of popularity for a two-front war in Afghan/Iraq.

I, and I think many others would actually take the completely opposite viewpoint of Zap, and conclude that Africa isn’t worth giving handouts to until we’ve cleaned up our own backyard. Frankly, at this point I am MUCH more worried about not even needing to interfere with the middle east than I am worried about AIDS in Africa. [/quote]

It isn’t just AIDS in Africa.

It is the difference between right and wrong for a continent that his been shit on for hundreds of years.

It is protecting the America’s strategic and economic interests in a continent rich on natural resources.

It is fighting the spread of the evil that is radical Islam with a small investment in dollars and manpower compared to what we have to do in the middle east.

We are truly doing remarkable work in Africa with a very small number of people, this will benefit us for decades to come.

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[quote]belligerent wrote:
LMAO. Do you really think Oprah was crying tears of joy on national television because she’s going to be paying far higher taxes in the near future, and she’s happy for all the poor people who are going to benefit from her money?[/quote]

carefull! dont be blasphemous in here! using Lord Oprahs name in here in vain will get you in trouble.

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[quote]beebuddy wrote:
And as an aside, I believe good policy CAN do this. Let’s hope for change when it comes to Obama’s energy policy, cause ‘inflating our tires’ aint gonna work. [/quote]

That is his energy policy. Plus taxing the shit out of energy producers, which I still fail to see how that will help consumers.

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And it would be unfair not to admit that if an entire generation of men grew up and DON’T end up in jail simply as a result of the psychological effect of seeing a black president on TV during their formative years then I get all soft and mushy inside. I don’t call it justice when blacks in my country don’t have to feel degraded. I call it fucking human.

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AMEN! very well put.

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[quote]egnatiosj wrote:
tedro wrote:
Sloth wrote:
I’m just afraid that once we’ve gone Barrack, we won’t go back.

That is also my biggest fear and precisely the reason that I started this thread. The current voting trends support this idea, so either conservatives have to find a way to appeal to these demographics, or we hope that this election was just an anomaly. The latter is definitely a possibility, but with early-voting running rampant, education at all time lows, and minority populations increasing faster than whites, it may just become the norm.

So you are scared that with more people voting your candidate wont win. thats the problem of living in a democracy buddy its SUPPOSE to be about helping the greatest majority, not just the elite few… More people vote=greater chance of electing the candidate that helps the most people… thats what its about… [/quote]

Voting in the most liberal president elect in US history is not what is going to help the greatest majority. It is what the dems, media, and universities have led us to believe.

The problem isn’t simply record voter turnout. It is record voter turnout of the uneducated. How many of the 70+% of college students that voted for Obama do you think have even the slightest clue about basic economic principles? How many of these kids have paid a measly $1000 of taxes in their LIFE? Or been forced to ever rely on their own responsibility or hard work? Are they just now weaning off of Mommy and Daddy’s teat so now they are ready to jump on the governments?

When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. - Benjamin Franklin

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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
This is why anyone who votes needs to know how to read and write, and be a high school graduate. No more letting uneducated ‘gangsta rappers’ decide the future of this country!

Before I give a “real” response…I want you to sit back and really think about that statement for a minute. I sure as hell know you didn’t think before making it.

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Okay, I thought about it overnight. Now I think that in addition only people who own property in a community or pay rent should vote, as well. Homeless bums and derelicts should not be allowed to vote. When you have to name a park bench as your home, no vote.

Hmmmmmmm…educated voters who have an interest in the well-being of their community and country. What a novel concept!!!

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[quote]belligerent wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
belligerent wrote:
Obama’s election is the result of racism of the worst kind.

I was actually following you up till there. Racism of the worst kind…HA!HA!

That may have been a stupid comment on my part… apologies around… but what I see is disturbing nevertheless. Rather than being evidence of racial unity, I believe the election was an outright racial contest in which members of one group were primarily or solely concerned with advancing their standing relative to that of another group.

We just elected a total asswipe, a lawyer, the latest in a long line of utterly worthless politicians seeking power, who just happens to be black, and people are jumping up and down hysterically, crying, screaming in approval of his utterly bankrupt platitudes, offering cult-like allegiance, calling him the messiah… and you guys really think this is healthy? Well, in fact, it is clear evidence that we have far worse racial problems than most people are even aware of. [/quote]

Excellent post!!

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
mmllcc wrote:
If you can’t understand the significance of last night, why, for at least today, it makes us a stronger, more respected nation around the world, then you lack basic knowledge of the human race.[/quote]

Vlad Putin will somehow be immune to the naif from the Chicago South Side, as will Achmadin-jihad, Hugo Chavez, and other such scum.

As Joe Biden said, the world just got more dangerous, as one or more of the above ‘tests’ the falso messiah.