My dad is from Watts. It is a fairly not so good neighborhood in Los Angeles, California. As a kid I hated going to visit relatives. I was harassed and pushed around being a little blonde white girl in a predominantly black neighborhood. And that was just the tip of what they would call me. But then again I suppose if you look at it the other way, I was an outsider and all that happened was a lot of ugly words and some pushing and hair pulling.
Just actually am now thinking about that.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
My dad is from Watts. It is a fairly not so good neighborhood in Los Angeles, California. As a kid I hated going to visit relatives. I was harassed and pushed around being a little blonde white girl in a predominantly black neighborhood. And that was just the tip of what they would call me. But then again I suppose if you look at it the other way, I was an outsider and all that happened was a lot of ugly words and some pushing and hair pulling.
Just actually am now thinking about that.
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Watts is a Poor Neighborhood and you stood out. Its the Same for a black person walking thru a Poor White Neighborhood with a high crime rate.
I find it strange that this is hard for people to see.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Right. It would be absurd. Just like it would be absurd for a white judge/CEO/entrepreneur to run out and shoot a black, which is the accusation here. Have you read the thread?
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Weâve been asking you, what do you mean by ââwrong hoodââ, and you are now avoiding the question. You said youâve never mentioned money when we brought up the ââpoor/crime ridden neighbourhoodââ.
Youâve said white peeps get shot for their wallet in the wrong hood. Then you said a white person in a predominately black hood = being in the wrong hood. Then, Iâve asked you, unless the white guy is walking through a poor hood, how on earth does he get shot over a wallet in an middle/upper class area inhabited by blacks. You canât answer that?
Anyway, the point I wanted to make was your analogy was wrong. The murder happened in upper class area and you bringing up the shooting of whites in the ââwrongââ hood over a wallet doesnât even compare to what happens to that kid. The fact that you canât/wonât tell us what context you meant by wrong hood shows that you certainly know how absurd your analogy was.
Anyway, I have no time to go round and round in an argument. I gotta go fuck.
[quote]BDSLift wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
My dad is from Watts. It is a fairly not so good neighborhood in Los Angeles, California. As a kid I hated going to visit relatives. I was harassed and pushed around being a little blonde white girl in a predominantly black neighborhood. And that was just the tip of what they would call me. But then again I suppose if you look at it the other way, I was an outsider and all that happened was a lot of ugly words and some pushing and hair pulling.
Just actually am now thinking about that.
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Watts is a Poor Neighborhood and you stood out. Its the Same for a black person walking thru a Poor White Neighborhood with a high crime rate.
I find it strange that this is hard for people to see.[/quote]
Strange like racism against whites being ignored?
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Right. It would be absurd. Just like it would be absurd for a white judge/CEO/entrepreneur to run out and shoot a black, which is the accusation here. Have you read the thread?
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But that has happened, hasnât it? That black kid was shot dead by an upper class white man. He saw a black kid in his hood and thought 'âtroubleâ, then called the cops.
Black upper class is less likely to see a white man walking by their hood and think that way.
But hey, youâll deny it so I wonât waste any more of my time on this.
Time to go fuck.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]BDSLift wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
My dad is from Watts. It is a fairly not so good neighborhood in Los Angeles, California. As a kid I hated going to visit relatives. I was harassed and pushed around being a little blonde white girl in a predominantly black neighborhood. And that was just the tip of what they would call me. But then again I suppose if you look at it the other way, I was an outsider and all that happened was a lot of ugly words and some pushing and hair pulling.
Just actually am now thinking about that.
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Watts is a Poor Neighborhood and you stood out. Its the Same for a black person walking thru a Poor White Neighborhood with a high crime rate.
I find it strange that this is hard for people to see.[/quote]
Strange like racism against whites being ignored?[/quote]
Not ignored, the police have the stats to prove it 
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Right. It would be absurd. Just like it would be absurd for a white judge/CEO/entrepreneur to run out and shoot a black, which is the accusation here. Have you read the thread?
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But that has happened, hasnât it? That black kid was shot dead by an upper class white man. He saw a black kid in his hood and thought 'âtroubleâ, then called the cops.
Black upper class is less likely to see a white man walking by their hood and think that way.
But hey, youâll deny it so I wonât waste any more of my time on this.
Time to go fuck.[/quote]
Prove it.
Weâve come full circle havenât we?
Know why we keep going around and around? Because nobody knows why the shooting happened, all else is irrelevant, even if illustration.
You are being racist.
A white shot a black so, because of skin color, heâs automatically racist?
Get real.
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Right. It would be absurd. Just like it would be absurd for a white judge/CEO/entrepreneur to run out and shoot a black, which is the accusation here. Have you read the thread?
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Weâve been asking you, what do you mean by ââwrong hoodââ, and you are now avoiding the question. You said youâve never mentioned money when we brought up the ââpoor/crime ridden neighbourhoodââ.
Youâve said white peeps get shot for their wallet in the wrong hood. Then you said a white person in a predominately black hood = being in the wrong hood. Then, Iâve asked you, unless the white guy is walking through a poor hood, how on earth does he get shot over a wallet in an middle/upper class area inhabited by blacks. You canât answer that?
Anyway, the point I wanted to make was your analogy was wrong. The murder happened in upper class area and you bringing up the shooting of whites in the ââwrongââ hood over a wallet doesnât even compare to what happens to that kid. The fact that you canât/wonât tell us what context you meant by wrong hood shows that you certainly know how absurd your analogy was.
Anyway, I have no time to go round and round in an argument. I gotta go fuck.
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Read the thread, consider context and look in the mirror.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
A white shot a black so, because of skin color, heâs automatically racist?
Get real.[/quote]
Fuck you are dense man. This is not just about a white person shooting a black person. This is about a white person who saw a black person in his neighborhood, called the cops because of âsuspiciousâ activity, was told by the police that they would investigate, instead of letting the police do their job he went after the kid, confronted him in front of his own home, got in a struggle with the kid and then ended up shooting him. Process that. He was told by police not to get involved, went ahead and got involved, and someone ended up dead. But heâs not in jail? There have been no other crimes reported in that area during this time. The parents of the kid are being left in the dark. You really donât see a cause for concern here?
[quote]BeefEater wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
A white shot a black so, because of skin color, heâs automatically racist?
Get real.[/quote]
Fuck you are dense man. This is not just about a white person shooting a black person. This is about a white person who saw a black person in his neighborhood, called the cops because of âsuspiciousâ activity, was told by the police that they would investigate, instead of letting the police do their job he went after the kid, confronted him in front of his own home, got in a struggle with the kid and then ended up shooting him. Process that. He was told by police not to get involved, went ahead and got involved, and someone ended up dead. But heâs not in jail? There have been no other crimes reported in that area during this time. The parents of the kid are being left in the dark. You really donât see a cause for concern here?[/quote]
Every aspect of the situation has been responded to with the ultimate reply from the conclusion jumping masses being âdamned olâ racists are at it againâ, which is what Iâm replying too.
It boils down to ignorance, literal ignorant assumptions of racism because a white guy shot a black guy.
The circumstantial kicker for me, circumstantial assumption being all a reader has, is that responding police did not make an arrest. I trust their professional due diligence over racially charged, paranoid, hocus pocus witch hunts.
You donât know what changed between the call and the confrontation, or who initiated the change, potentially vindicating a shooting, as is evidently being investigated.
Neither do I, nobody does except on scene law officials who didnât see reason for arrest yet the man is being crucified a racist, violent aggressor baselessy, and you donât see a problem? Fucking dense man, really dense.
[quote]BDSLift wrote:
These stories always leave out a huge hunk of what went down so itâs hard to comment.
If the kid was a threat to his life yeah
Now the cops must have had a reason for not taking CCW watch captain in so I would like to hear why? [/quote]
Bump and edited for bias.
We are 7 pages into this an not one single Kill Whitey yet?
Fine Iâll do it. Kill Whitey!
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Prove it.
Weâve come full circle havenât we?
Know why we keep going around and around? Because nobody knows why the shooting happened, all else is irrelevant, even if illustration.
You are being racist.
A white shot a black so, because of skin color, heâs automatically racist?
Get real.[/quote]
Show me the reports that show white people getting shot for their wallets in the wrong neighbourhood and I can guarantee you the crime had happened in poor areas. You brought black on white crime/racism as a counter argument. We have not ignored that. However the murder of that boy is a different context.
Youâll rarely see a black person panic then rush for the phone if a young white guy wanders in their hoods. Why should it be any concern about him unless heâs breaking into a house? Why would rich blacks be weary of a lone white teen walking through their hoods? Shit, I wish I could even think of one stereotype thatâd make me piss my pants if I saw a white guy walking down my upper class hood. Damn! I canât think of any. Thoughts thatâd definitely cross my head; Is that guy Sandieâs new boyfriend? Is he lilâ Keithâs classmate? Is he new here? Is he a friend of the Taylors? Maybe heâs lost and canât find one of the neighboursâ home.
Now letâs take on Zimmermanâs mind and some other fuckers : a fucking n*** I never seen before in our nice neighbourhood. Must call the cops. Very soon heâd be breaking into a car or something. Heâs wearing his jeans quite low. I know a lot of them carry guns on them. He gonna rob someone. I saw Jeena out a while ago, he may even think about raping her. Fuck. Canât wait for the cops. Goinâ to confront that trespasser.
Hey, man, as you said thatâs just illustration. You can choose to ignore it as much as you like, but Zimmerman stereotyped the young boy and then called the cops before killing him. Would he have called the cops on a white guy? I doubt it. The fact that he hasnât even been arrested yet is ludicrous as it is. You know a black person would never have got away with murder.
Meh, if you think that makes me a racist, be my fucking guest. I wonât lose any sleep over it. And your posts in this thread donât surprise me. Didnât you tell me once I shouldnât be offended if a white person calls me an ape or monkey? For you to call us ignorant in this thread, that was a fucking ignorant thing to say to me.
No, actually, what you said was the whites didnât mean to be racially offensive by throwing racial slurs.
Thatâs itâs either ignorance coming from you or just a way to downplay racism as youâd been doing in this thread.
Look, a self-appointed NW âcaptainâ who carries a loaded firearm around with him to walk up and down a street in his gated community is clearly a wannabe vigilante who is itching for shit to go down regardless of skin color⊠that alone makes it completely unsurprising that he put himself in that position in the first place and suggests to me that he is most likely a little bit off to begin with. Note that he was also arrested in 2005 on charges of battery on a cop and resisting arrest with violence⊠while the charges were dismissed, it does suggest that heâs possibly got a crazy/violent streak in him.
Based on all that, I honestly wouldnât put it past him to try and work over any strange teenager he saw walking around, if for no other reason than to whip his gun out and get off on a power trip quickie. This stranger just happened to be black.
What I find interesting is the horrified, hyper-reflexive, knee-jerk reaction to crucify the guy for a hate crime from the âwhite communityâ without secondâs hesitation⊠itâs like youtube comments for black on white crime with better grammar. Thatâs not to say that we should be shrugging and saying, ânow, now, maybe that kid had it comingâ â because Zimmerman CLEARLY dun goofed â but the speed at which whitey tried to distance themselves from the actions of this guy by flat-out refusing to entertain the idea of ANY cause OTHER than some shady racial vendetta is certainly funny, since these people are ALSO usually the first to talk about how they are just so darn mystified by how some people canât get past skin color.
I mean, there are actually people arguing that it couldnât possibly be because of anything else.
Again, though, Iâm not suggesting there was no racial motive; we just donât know for sure either way. What we CAN assume with reasonable certainty is that Trayvon Martin ran into a wannabe tough guy asshole in the wrong place at the wrong time. Anything beyond that and weâre just⊠jumping to conclusions. Chart.
[quote]PaddyM wrote:
Although we donât have all the information; I think we all know what probably happened. Very sad. I hope justice is served.[/quote]
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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Shit, I wish I could even think of one stereotype thatâd make me piss my pants if I saw a white guy walking down my upper class hood. Damn! I canât think of any.[/quote]
One of the MANY reasons why being white is the tits.
FYI
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Prove it.
Weâve come full circle havenât we?
Know why we keep going around and around? Because nobody knows why the shooting happened, all else is irrelevant, even if illustration.
You are being racist.
A white shot a black so, because of skin color, heâs automatically racist?
Get real.[/quote]
Show me the reports that show white people getting shot for their wallets in the wrong neighbourhood and I can guarantee you the crime had happened in poor areas. You brought black on white crime/racism as a counter argument. We have not ignored that. However the murder of that boy is a different context.
Youâll rarely see a black person panic then rush for the phone if a young white guy wanders in their hoods. Why should it be any concern about him unless heâs breaking into a house? Why would rich blacks be weary of a lone white teen walking through their hoods? Shit, I wish I could even think of one stereotype thatâd make me piss my pants if I saw a white guy walking down my upper class hood. Damn! I canât think of any. Thoughts thatâd definitely cross my head; Is that guy Sandieâs new boyfriend? Is he lilâ Keithâs classmate? Is he new here? Is he a friend of the Taylors? Maybe heâs lost and canât find one of the neighboursâ home.
Now letâs take on Zimmermanâs mind and some other fuckers : a fucking n*** I never seen before in our nice neighbourhood. Must call the cops. Very soon heâd be breaking into a car or something. Heâs wearing his jeans quite low. I know a lot of them carry guns on them. He gonna rob someone. I saw Jeena out a while ago, he may even think about raping her. Fuck. Canât wait for the cops. Goinâ to confront that trespasser.
Hey, man, as you said thatâs just illustration. You can choose to ignore it as much as you like, but Zimmerman stereotyped the young boy and then called the cops before killing him. Would he have called the cops on a white guy? I doubt it. The fact that he hasnât even been arrested yet is ludicrous as it is. You know a black person would never have got away with murder.
Meh, if you think that makes me a racist, be my fucking guest. I wonât lose any sleep on it. And your posts in this thread donât surprise me. Didnât you tell me once I shouldnât be offended if a white person calls me an ape or monkey? For you to call us ignorant in this thread, that was a fucking ignorant thing to say to me.
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As soon as you prove racial intent in light of accusations, the question ignored for like 10 pages now.
False conjecture is bullshit, isnât it? Or only when someone else is using it?
Avoidance is cool and all, I understand your need to shift blame and your desire to turn fingers around in light of the fact you canât answer for your baseless, sweepingly generalized, racially motivated accusations.
Show me the proof youâre asking for, which is my point in making absurd claims; illustration. You canât.
I know you are capable of intelligent, objective, substantiated thought processes from what Iâve seen of you and Iâm sad you are instead jumping conclusions, making baseless accusations and defaulting to racism.
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
No, actually, what you said was the whites didnât mean to be racially offensive by throwing racial slurs.
Thatâs itâs either ignorance coming from you or just a way to downplay racism as youâd been doing in this thread. [/quote]
What?
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
My dad is from Watts. It is a fairly not so good neighborhood in Los Angeles, California. As a kid I hated going to visit relatives. I was harassed and pushed around being a little blonde white girl in a predominantly black neighborhood. And that was just the tip of what they would call me. But then again I suppose if you look at it the other way, I was an outsider and all that happened was a lot of ugly words and some pushing and hair pulling.
Just actually am now thinking about that.
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Iâm not making light of your situationâŠbut I grew up going to mostly white schools and even a mostly white church when I was a kid and worse stories about bothâŠespecially at church.
Thatâs not a âblack vs whiteâ thing. That is a âthat kid is different than usâ thingâŠand that has no specific color and never did.