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I have not seen this addressed. I’d like to see if possible if the duke lacrosse case was addressed here and what certain people said about it.
I like how people openly lie in furtherance of their incitement of racist attacks and murders.
'(T)he Miami Herald reported that there were “multiple suspensions” on Trayvon’s record. Even more important, the Miami Herald article reports "In October, a school police investigator said he saw Trayvon on the school surveillance camera in an unauthorized area ‘hiding and being suspicious.’ Then he said he saw Trayvon mark up a door with ‘W.T.F’ - an acronym for ‘what the f-.’ The officer said he found Trayvon the next day and went through his book bag in search of the graffiti marker.
“Instead the officer reported he found women’s jewelry and a screwdriver that he described as a ‘burglary tool,’ according to a Miami-Dade Schools Police report obtained by The Miami Herald.”
“Trayvon’s backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described silver wedding bands and earrings with diamonds.”
So we know he’s a thief.
“Trayvon was asked if the jewelry belonged to his family or a girlfriend.”
“‘Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,’ he responded, according to the report. Trayvon declined to name the friend.”
So we know he’s a liar and stupid.
“Trayvon was not disciplined because of the discovery, but was instead suspended for graffiti, according to the report. School police impounded the jewelry and sent photos of the items to detectives at Miami-Dade police for further investigation.”
So we know he was under police investigation.
This revelation is extremely important when you consider that George Zimmerman claimed to have seen Trayvon casing homes in the neighborhood for future burglaries. Trayvon had “burglary tools” and women’s diamond earings and wedding bands, which were burglarized from somewhere.
And we know that Zimmerman is obviously good at spotting criminals. Trayvon was suspended from school three times for his increasingly anti-social behaviour. His twitter account makes reference to him assaulting a bus driver. Drug use, theft, violence, vandalism, truancy, police investigation etc.[/quote]
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So Zimmerman knew all this before he followed him?
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The point would be it supports his assertion of suspicion. Don’t play dumb.[/quote]
Innocent until proven guilty.[/quote]
The reason this whole discussion has momentum is because of the assumption that Martin was a “good kid” and the only reason Zimmerman took an interest in, followed and subsequently shot and killed Martin is because a) Zimmerman is a “racist pig” and b) Martin was black.
If you add in a history of antisocial/criminal behaviour on Martin’s part that picture begins to change somewhat, regardless of whether Zimmerman was aware of that history. There are certain patterns of mannerisms, body language and behaviour that criminals or people who like to style themselves criminals tend to exhibit. Even a moderately observant person can generally pick up on this. I live in a very “white” area so our street criminals are often white, and regardless of race, age or anything else they tend to “look like” criminals. Any sensible person knows what I mean by this. I has nothing to do with innocent until proven guilty. We all assess people in seconds based largely on their outward appearance and demeanour. This is obviously not justification to shoot somebody but it may very well arouse suspicion.
If I saw a guy who looked, moved and acted like one of these guys in my neighbourhood at night, in the rain even if I knew nothing about his history, I might very well take an interest in him and what he was doing. I would handle it differently than Zimmerman, but we’re talking about the initial suspicion here and the totality of circumstances that contributed to the decisions that were made that night. It is very a different picture if Martin were a volunteer/honour student/youth group type of kid who just happened to be black than if he was legitimately a young man who was beginning to explore/engage in criminal activity. I only mean this in so much as how his general attitude and demeanour would likely be perceived by an observer on the night in question.
Of course this discussion is a total clusterfuck anyway and I am about to regret clicking “SUBMIT” but there you go.[/quote]
Nothing to regret…here…because it was unbiased. You did what SexMachine couldn’t.