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[quote]ZEB wrote:
Professor X wrote:

You throw that racism word around very loosely. Exactly what about the million man march is a problem?

Thank you for asking!

I use that as an example of Jacksons power and the many black people who follow him.

Did you march? No probably not…

Keep in mind I am not stating that ALL black people think the way these two trouble makers do. But…sadly…many do.

Prove this. Prove that there are even enough for you to even hold this opinion.

Um…the million man march. (knocks on pox’s head…hello McFly.)

It is a perfect analogy. Since Tammy Faye is white, she obviously speaks for all white people whenever she speaks in public…or at least many of them.

(Indignant) PROVE THIS! lol

Okay, seriously, unlike Jackson Faye would have a hard time drawing 10 people to walk across the street with her. Where as Jackson had that million man march thing going on.

That proves that many blacks look to him for leadership…

And…yea I think he’s a racist of the worst kind.

You like Jackson?

Do you follow Jackson?

Do you agree with Jacksons brand of racism?

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I don’t think Jackson or Sharpton organized the march.

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[quote]Go-Rilla wrote:

I don’t think Jackson or Sharpton organized the march.

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Louis Farrakahn

Some of his quotes from that day:

“There, in the middle of this mall is the Washington Monument, 555 feet high. But if we put a one in front of that 555 feet, we get 1555, the year that our first fathers landed on the shores of Jamestown, Virginia as slaves.” - Louis Farrakhan
For the record, Jamestown was founded over 50 years later in 1607.

“In the background is the Jefferson and Lincoln Memorial, each one of these monuments is 19 feet high. Abraham Lincoln, the sixteenth president. Thomas Jefferson, the third president, and 16 and three make 19 again”.- Louis Farrakhan

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[quote]doogie wrote:
Go-Rilla wrote:

I don’t think Jackson or Sharpton organized the march.

Louis Farrakahn

Some of his quotes from that day:

“There, in the middle of this mall is the Washington Monument, 555 feet high. But if we put a one in front of that 555 feet, we get 1555, the year that our first fathers landed on the shores of Jamestown, Virginia as slaves.” - Louis Farrakhan
For the record, Jamestown was founded over 50 years later in 1607.

“In the background is the Jefferson and Lincoln Memorial, each one of these monuments is 19 feet high. Abraham Lincoln, the sixteenth president. Thomas Jefferson, the third president, and 16 and three make 19 again”.- Louis Farrakhan [/quote]

Thanks for reminding me.

Louis Farrakhan is without a doubt a worse racist than either Jackson or Sharpton…and that’s saying quite a lot!

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[quote]Go-Rilla wrote:

I don’t think Jackson or Sharpton organized the march.

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They didn’t, but apparently, all black men look the same so there is no difference.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
Professor X wrote:

You throw that racism word around very loosely. Exactly what about the million man march is a problem?

Thank you for asking!

I use that as an example of Jacksons power and the many black people who follow him.

Did you march? No probably not…
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Ah, you credit Jesse Jackson for the Million Man March. You are clueless.

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[quote]doogie wrote:
Go-Rilla wrote:

I don’t think Jackson or Sharpton organized the march.

Louis Farrakahn

Some of his quotes from that day:

“There, in the middle of this mall is the Washington Monument, 555 feet high. But if we put a one in front of that 555 feet, we get 1555, the year that our first fathers landed on the shores of Jamestown, Virginia as slaves.” - Louis Farrakhan
For the record, Jamestown was founded over 50 years later in 1607.

“In the background is the Jefferson and Lincoln Memorial, each one of these monuments is 19 feet high. Abraham Lincoln, the sixteenth president. Thomas Jefferson, the third president, and 16 and three make 19 again”.- Louis Farrakhan [/quote]

What is truly sad, is you look for quotes to make fun of an event like this when our own president can’t put together a speech without SEVERAL misspellings, mispronunciations, and random poor grammar.

Yes, that is ironic.

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Bushisms:

“After the bombing, most Iraqis saw what the perpetuators of this attack were trying to do.” ?George W. Bush, on the bombing of the Golden Mosque of Samarra in Iraq, March 13, 2006, Washington, D.C.

“And so I’m for medical liability at the federal level.” ?George W. Bush, on medical liability reform, Washington, D.C., March 10, 2006

“I believe that a prosperous, democratic Pakistan will be a steadfast
partner for America, a peaceful neighbor for India, and a force for freedom and moderation in the Arab world.” ?George W. Bush, mistakenly identifying Pakistan as an Arab country, Islamabad, Pakistan, March 3, 2006

“People don’t need to worry about security. This deal wouldn’t go forward if we were concerned about the security for the United States of America.” ?George W. Bush, on the deal to hand over U.S. port security to a company operated by the United Arab Emirates, Washington, D.C., Feb. 23, 2006

“And I want those who are questioning it to step up and explain why all of a sudden a Middle Eastern company is held to a different standard than a Great British company.” ?George W. Bush, defending a plan to allow a company controlled by the United Arab Emirates to manage ports in the United States, aboard Air Force One, Feb. 21, 2006

“I think it’s really important for this great state of baseball to reach out to people of all walks of life to make sure that the sport is inclusive. The best way to do it is to convince little kids how to?the beauty of playing baseball.” ?George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 13, 2006

“I like my buddies from west Texas. I liked them when I was young, I liked them then I was middle-age, I liked them before I was president, and I like them during president, and I like them after president.” ?George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Feb. 1, 2006

“He was a state sponsor of terror. In other words, the government had declared, you are a state sponsor of terror.” ?George W. Bush, on Saddam Hussein, Manhattan, Kan., Jan. 23, 2006

“I’ll be glad to talk about ranching, but I haven’t seen the movie. I’ve heard about it. I hope you go ? you know ? I hope you go back to the ranch and the farm is what I’m about to say.” ?George W. Bush, after being asked whether he’s seen Brokeback Mountain, Manhattan, Kan., Jan. 23, 2006

“It’s a heck of a place to bring your family.” ?George W. Bush, on New Orleans, New Orleans, La., Jan. 12, 2006

“You took an oath to defend our flag and our freedom, and you kept that oath underseas and under fire.” ?George W. Bush, addressing war veterans, Washington, D.C., Jan. 10, 2006

“As you can possibly see, I have an injury myself ? not here at the hospital, but in combat with a cedar. I eventually won. The cedar gave me a little scratch. As a matter of fact, the Colonel asked if I needed first aid when she first saw me. I was able to avoid any major surgical operations here, but thanks for your compassion, Colonel.” ?George W. Bush, after visiting with wounded veterans from the Amputee Care Center of Brooke Army Medical Center, San Antonio, Texas, Jan. 1, 2006

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I don’t know, anytime you get anywhere near a million people to work together in a peaceful manner to support an ideal or message, you have something significant.

What, if anything, do people around here have a problem with? I realize that there were some aspects and organizers that were criticized, but what of the event itself was a problem?

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[quote]vroom wrote:
I don’t know, anytime you get anywhere near a million people to work together in a peaceful manner to support an ideal or message, you have something significant.

What, if anything, do people around here have a problem with? I realize that there were some aspects and organizers that were criticized, but what of the event itself was a problem?[/quote]

As far as I can remember the intent was to bring men to an accounting of their responsibilities and a call for integrity.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Bushisms:

“After the bombing, most Iraqis saw what the perpetuators of this attack were trying to do.” ?George W. Bush, on the bombing of the Golden Mosque of Samarra in Iraq, March 13, 2006, Washington, D.C.

“And so I’m for medical liability at the federal level.” ?George W. Bush, on medical liability reform, Washington, D.C., March 10, 2006

“I believe that a prosperous, democratic Pakistan will be a steadfast
partner for America, a peaceful neighbor for India, and a force for freedom and moderation in the Arab world.” ?George W. Bush, mistakenly identifying Pakistan as an Arab country, Islamabad, Pakistan, March 3, 2006

“People don’t need to worry about security. This deal wouldn’t go forward if we were concerned about the security for the United States of America.” ?George W. Bush, on the deal to hand over U.S. port security to a company operated by the United Arab Emirates, Washington, D.C., Feb. 23, 2006

“And I want those who are questioning it to step up and explain why all of a sudden a Middle Eastern company is held to a different standard than a Great British company.” ?George W. Bush, defending a plan to allow a company controlled by the United Arab Emirates to manage ports in the United States, aboard Air Force One, Feb. 21, 2006

“I think it’s really important for this great state of baseball to reach out to people of all walks of life to make sure that the sport is inclusive. The best way to do it is to convince little kids how to?the beauty of playing baseball.” ?George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 13, 2006

“I like my buddies from west Texas. I liked them when I was young, I liked them then I was middle-age, I liked them before I was president, and I like them during president, and I like them after president.” ?George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Feb. 1, 2006

“He was a state sponsor of terror. In other words, the government had declared, you are a state sponsor of terror.” ?George W. Bush, on Saddam Hussein, Manhattan, Kan., Jan. 23, 2006

“I’ll be glad to talk about ranching, but I haven’t seen the movie. I’ve heard about it. I hope you go ? you know ? I hope you go back to the ranch and the farm is what I’m about to say.” ?George W. Bush, after being asked whether he’s seen Brokeback Mountain, Manhattan, Kan., Jan. 23, 2006

“It’s a heck of a place to bring your family.” ?George W. Bush, on New Orleans, New Orleans, La., Jan. 12, 2006

“You took an oath to defend our flag and our freedom, and you kept that oath underseas and under fire.” ?George W. Bush, addressing war veterans, Washington, D.C., Jan. 10, 2006

“As you can possibly see, I have an injury myself ? not here at the hospital, but in combat with a cedar. I eventually won. The cedar gave me a little scratch. As a matter of fact, the Colonel asked if I needed first aid when she first saw me. I was able to avoid any major surgical operations here, but thanks for your compassion, Colonel.” ?George W. Bush, after visiting with wounded veterans from the Amputee Care Center of Brooke Army Medical Center, San Antonio, Texas, Jan. 1, 2006[/quote]

The President on literacy:

“You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.”
Townsend, Tennessee - February 21, 2001

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think the entire line of thinking in the articles posted here is retarded. I judge things by certain issues. I could care less about a label. People throw around “Conservative” as if it is some badge of honor simply because you vote a certain way. That’s stupid. I’m black and I don’t plan on being poor. I have material shit but I don’t place much importance on “things”…aside from my motorcycle. My plans in life are to be successful and to stand out among many. I will not, however, turn my back on where I came from and if I can continue some community service as well as any “youth” affiliation, I will do so. I think people have lost their sense of self the moment they begin relating to a party line more than their individuality.

This isn’t a football game. This is life. It seems far too many forget that.

I don’t expect all black people to agree with me just like I don’t agree with all black people.

For this article to even make an issue of those who choose to think along those lines shows that they really are no better.[/quote]

I’m not one to kiss ass. Particularly Pro X’s big booty. But I have to say that the Black community and all minority communities would be much better off if they followed what Pro X has outlined here.

Great post.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Go-Rilla wrote:

I don’t think Jackson or Sharpton organized the march.

They didn’t, but apparently, all black men look the same so there is no difference.[/quote]

Let’s see would I call that a black man playing the “race card?”

Jackson had a great deal to do with the march. Would you like footage?

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The President on equal opportunity, or taxes…you decide:

“The Senate needs to leave enough money in the proposed budget to not only reduce all marginal rates, but to eliminate the death tax, so that people who build up assets are able to transfer them from one generation to the next, regardless of a person’s race.”

Washington, D.C., April 5, 2001

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
doogie wrote:
Go-Rilla wrote:
I don’t think Jackson or Sharpton organized the march.

Louis Farrakahn

Some of his quotes from that day:

“There, in the middle of this mall is the Washington Monument, 555 feet high. But if we put a one in front of that 555 feet, we get 1555, the year that our first fathers landed on the shores of Jamestown, Virginia as slaves.” - Louis Farrakhan
For the record, Jamestown was founded over 50 years later in 1607.

“In the background is the Jefferson and Lincoln Memorial, each one of these monuments is 19 feet high. Abraham Lincoln, the sixteenth president. Thomas Jefferson, the third president, and 16 and three make 19 again”.- Louis Farrakhan

What is truly sad, is you look for quotes to make fun of an event like this when our own president can’t put together a speech without SEVERAL misspellings, mispronunciations, and random poor grammar.

Yes, that is ironic.[/quote]

And looking for racism in national monuments has what to do with the President?

Nada…try again pox.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Bushisms:

“After the bombing, most Iraqis saw what the perpetuators of this attack were trying to do.” ?George W. Bush, on the bombing of the Golden Mosque of Samarra in Iraq, March 13, 2006, Washington, D.C.

“And so I’m for medical liability at the federal level.” ?George W. Bush, on medical liability reform, Washington, D.C., March 10, 2006

“I believe that a prosperous, democratic Pakistan will be a steadfast
partner for America, a peaceful neighbor for India, and a force for freedom and moderation in the Arab world.” ?George W. Bush, mistakenly identifying Pakistan as an Arab country, Islamabad, Pakistan, March 3, 2006

“People don’t need to worry about security. This deal wouldn’t go forward if we were concerned about the security for the United States of America.” ?George W. Bush, on the deal to hand over U.S. port security to a company operated by the United Arab Emirates, Washington, D.C., Feb. 23, 2006

“And I want those who are questioning it to step up and explain why all of a sudden a Middle Eastern company is held to a different standard than a Great British company.” ?George W. Bush, defending a plan to allow a company controlled by the United Arab Emirates to manage ports in the United States, aboard Air Force One, Feb. 21, 2006

“I think it’s really important for this great state of baseball to reach out to people of all walks of life to make sure that the sport is inclusive. The best way to do it is to convince little kids how to?the beauty of playing baseball.” ?George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 13, 2006

“I like my buddies from west Texas. I liked them when I was young, I liked them then I was middle-age, I liked them before I was president, and I like them during president, and I like them after president.” ?George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Feb. 1, 2006

“He was a state sponsor of terror. In other words, the government had declared, you are a state sponsor of terror.” ?George W. Bush, on Saddam Hussein, Manhattan, Kan., Jan. 23, 2006

“I’ll be glad to talk about ranching, but I haven’t seen the movie. I’ve heard about it. I hope you go ? you know ? I hope you go back to the ranch and the farm is what I’m about to say.” ?George W. Bush, after being asked whether he’s seen Brokeback Mountain, Manhattan, Kan., Jan. 23, 2006

“It’s a heck of a place to bring your family.” ?George W. Bush, on New Orleans, New Orleans, La., Jan. 12, 2006

“You took an oath to defend our flag and our freedom, and you kept that oath underseas and under fire.” ?George W. Bush, addressing war veterans, Washington, D.C., Jan. 10, 2006

“As you can possibly see, I have an injury myself ? not here at the hospital, but in combat with a cedar. I eventually won. The cedar gave me a little scratch. As a matter of fact, the Colonel asked if I needed first aid when she first saw me. I was able to avoid any major surgical operations here, but thanks for your compassion, Colonel.” ?George W. Bush, after visiting with wounded veterans from the Amputee Care Center of Brooke Army Medical Center, San Antonio, Texas, Jan. 1, 2006[/quote]

More distractions.

And the funny part is…you actually think that you are smart.

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[quote]vroom wrote:
I don’t know, anytime you get anywhere near a million people to work together in a peaceful manner to support an ideal or message, you have something significant.

What, if anything, do people around here have a problem with? I realize that there were some aspects and organizers that were criticized, but what of the event itself was a problem?[/quote]

Um…I brought that up to make a point that Jackson…Sharpton…and of course Farakhan have sway over many black people.

No one said it was bad.

Please…

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[quote]Um…I brought that up to make a point that Jackson…Sharpton…and of course Farakhan have sway over many black people.

No one said it was bad.[/quote]

The fact that someone organizes an event, and that a lot of people take part in it, does not mean that they are spokespersons for a race.

It means that the event was something that a lot of people felt had value. There is a difference.

Does the American Cancer Society, which holds a lot of events that people participate in, speak directly for all cancer victims? Do we refer to this group as the leaders of those who have or had cancer?

I’ve done the relay for life, does that make me a Cancer Society follower?

What you are describing is that some people are outspoken and able to put forth a message that at one point resonated with a lot of people.

Once again, how come in minority situations we are so quick to appoint outspoken people as spokespersons for an entire race, when in fact they are spokespersons for their own specific agenda, which at various points in time may be able to resonate with the concerns of varying groups of people?

Seriously, think about that.

The fact that they are in the media regularly and may be happy to be considered important spokespeople doesn’t make them so… our acceptance of them in that position is what makes it seem to be so.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

What is truly sad, is you look for quotes to make fun of an event like this when our own president can’t put together a speech without SEVERAL misspellings, mispronunciations, and random poor grammar.

Yes, that is ironic.[/quote]

An event like this?

"On October 24, 1989, at the J.W. Marriott Hotel in Washington, DC., Louis Farrakhan stated that he had a vision of being abducted in 1985 by an invisible pilot in a UFO and carried up on a beam of light to a “human built planet” known as the “Mother Wheel.” There the voice of Elijah Muhammad informed him that the President and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, under the direction of Gen. Colin Powell, were planning a war, which Farrakhan said he later came to realize was “a war against the black people of America, the Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan.” “I saw a city in the sky,” Farrakhan said, after which the UFO “brought me back to Earth and dropped me off near Washington; over to Tyson’s Corner and Fifth Street I think…to make The Announcement.” Additionally, he has said his entire inspiration for the “Million Man March” is based on this “vision of being swept into a UFO that took him to a larger mothership.” (The Washington Post, Sept. 18, 1995, p. D3).

You can’t separate the message from the messenger.

What is truly sad is that you are so fucking touchy. The quotes were on the first page I brought up about the Million Man March. You inspired me, however, to pull up some more. Tell us what a great leader he is:

“Murder and lying comes easy for white people.”
Louis Farrakhan

“The Jews don’t like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that’s a good name. Hitler was a very great man.”
Louis Farrakhan

“White people are potential humans - they haven’t evolved yet.”
Philadelphia Inquirer, March 2000

“The real enemy doesn’t wear red nor necessarily blue but white, even when he’s butt naked.”
Louis Farrakhan

"I don’t think that Saddam Hussein is deliberately starving his own people. I would think that a man who gets 99 percent of the people to vote for him in an election and the people love him so much, how would they love a man that is starving them?‘’

  • Louis Farrakhan

“They [the Jews] are the greatest controllers of black minds, black intelligence. They write the scripts - the foolish scripts on television that our people portray. They are the movie moguls that feature us in these silly, degrading, degenerate roles.
The great recording companies that portray our people in such a filthy and low-rating way, yet they would not allow such a man as Michael Jackson to say one word that they thought would besmirch their reputation, but they put us before the world as clowns and as purveyors of filth. No, I will fight that.”
Meet The Press interview, October 1998

“The Jews have been so bad at politics they lost half their population in the Holocaust. They thought they could trust in Hitler, and they helped him get the Third Reich on the road.”
Saviours’ Day speech, Chicago, February 1998

"I believe that for the small numbers of Jewish people in the United States, they exercise a tremendous amount of influence on the affairs of government …Yes, they exercise extraordinary control, and black people will never be free in this country until they are free of that kind of control … "
Meet The Press interview, April 1997

“New Orleans is the first of the cities going to tumble down… unless America changes its course,” Farrakhan said.

“It is the wickedness of the people of America and the government of America that is bringing the wrath of God down,” he told several hundred people at Tinsley Temple United Methodist Church.

Nation of Islam chief Minister Louis Farrakhan has expanded on his theory that New Orleans’ levees were blown up during Hurricane Katrina, announcing Friday that divers working on the levee break have found evidence of explosives. “These explosives are from the government side,” he said during a press conference in Memphis held to promote his upcoming Million Man Anniversary March. In quotes picked up by Memphis TV station WMC, Farrakhan demanded an investigation into the Bush administration’s levee plot. If true, he insisted: “somebody is guilty, then not only of mass destruction of property, but of mass murder.”

Farrakhan: “Is the Federal Reserve owned by the government?”
Audience: “No.”
Farrakhan: “Who owns the Federal Reserve?”
Audience: “Jews.”
Farrakhan: “The same year they set up the IRS, they set up the FBI. And the same year they set up the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith… It could be a coincidence… [I want] to see black intellectuals free… I want to see them not controlled by members of the Jewish community.”
(Source: The site for the Dallas Observer, dated August 10, 2000)

“All the presidents since 1932 are controlled by Jews.”
Louis Farrakhan

“Eighty-five percent of the masses of the people of earth are victimized by Jews.”
Louis Farrakhan

I can laugh at the silly Bush quotes you posted. I can also discern the intended meaning of what he was trying to say. Farrakhan is a racist nut job. He is flat out insane. If your pigment won’t allow you to admit that, fine. Maybe at least think about this quote of his:

“Never exalt people because they’re in your family; never exalt people because they’re your color.never exalt people because they’re your kinfolk. Exalt them because they’re worthy.”
–Louis Farrakhan, 1985

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[quote]vroom wrote:
Um…I brought that up to make a point that Jackson…Sharpton…and of course Farakhan have sway over many black people.

No one said it was bad.

The fact that someone organizes an event, and that a lot of people take part in it, does not mean that they are spokespersons for a race.

It means that the event was something that a lot of people felt had value. There is a difference.

Does the American Cancer Society, which holds a lot of events that people participate in, speak directly for all cancer victims? Do we refer to this group as the leaders of those who have or had cancer?

I’ve done the relay for life, does that make me a Cancer Society follower?

What you are describing is that some people are outspoken and able to put forth a message that at one point resonated with a lot of people.

Once again, how come in minority situations we are so quick to appoint outspoken people as spokespersons for an entire race, when in fact they are spokespersons for their own specific agenda, which at various points in time may be able to resonate with the concerns of varying groups of people?

Seriously, think about that.

The fact that they are in the media regularly and may be happy to be considered important spokespeople doesn’t make them so… our acceptance of them in that position is what makes it seem to be so.[/quote]

If David Duke held a rally, it is safe to call those participating racist. Why isn’t it safe to assume those at Calypso Louie’s rally were also?

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[quote]doogie wrote:

You can’t separate the message from the messenger.
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Bullshit. Not one man that I knew who attended that event went there because they supported an individual. They went there because they supported what the event stood for. I didn’t attend it (because I had exams that week), but I supported what promoted that many people to get together. That event wasn’t about Farrakhan. What is truly sad is you don’t know the difference.