Biotest Anti-Aromatase?

does anyone know if Biotest makes an anti aromatase supplement.

[quote]higg023 wrote:
does anyone know if Biotest makes an anti aromatase supplement.[/quote]

did you check the store?

[quote]higg023 wrote:
does anyone know if Biotest makes an anti aromatase supplement.[/quote]

It could be your lucky day.

DAMNIT stop releasing stuff the day after I place an order.

[quote]TC wrote:
higg023 wrote:
does anyone know if Biotest makes an anti aromatase supplement.

It could be your lucky day.

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i think i just had an orgasm.

[quote]cataklysque wrote:
DAMNIT stop releasing stuff the day after I place an order. [/quote]

LOL

TC, whatever do you mean?

[quote]TC wrote:
higg023 wrote:
does anyone know if Biotest makes an anti aromatase supplement.

It could be your lucky day.

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It’s like Christmas Eve, with a jacked Santa.

today??

is it in the store?

I don’t see anything new in the store.

[quote]TShaw wrote:
I don’t see anything new in the store.[/quote]

Give it time.

I’m sure it will come.

-Nate

AF set the bar pretty high with AIFM.

I’m curious to see if Biotest can compete, and make a legal AI that actually does something.

[quote]Carbon-12 wrote:
It’s like Christmas Eve, with a jacked Santa.[/quote]

Forever jacked.

I don’t see anything new. What is this stuff you guys are tslking about? What is it supposed to do?

Please explain for us eager to learn.

Thanks

[quote]ScienceGuy wrote:
AF set the bar pretty high with AIFM.
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what company/product are you talking about?

ATD is not new (many companies have marketed it) and is not an effective compound when it comes to increasing LH and testosterone, though RIA performed for testosterone will make it appear so due to cross-reactivity.

[quote]ScienceGuy wrote:
AF set the bar pretty high with AIFM.

I’m curious to see if Biotest can compete, and make a legal AI that actually does something.[/quote]

[quote]Cy Willson wrote:
ATD is not new (many companies have marketed it) and is not an effective compound when it comes to increasing LH and testosterone, though RIA performed for testosterone will make it appear so due to cross-reactivity.
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Of course ATD is not new. Neither is calling creatine ‘german creatine’. But the topical application is new, and makes the AI very effective. As for increasing LH and Test, no one ever said it did, certainly Arimidex isn’t valueless just because it doesn’t increase LH. Propionate doesn’t increase LH either, it simply does what it is supposed to do. AIFM is supposed to slash estrogen. It does, and it has rave reviews. I hope Biotest comes out with a great product that is sucessful, but as I said, the bar is set pretty high. Most worthwhile compounds are not orally available.

[quote]ScienceGuy wrote:
Cy Willson wrote:
ATD is not new (many companies have marketed it) and is not an effective compound when it comes to increasing LH and testosterone, though RIA performed for testosterone will make it appear so due to cross-reactivity.

Of course ATD is not new. Neither is calling creatine ‘german creatine’. But the topical application is new, and makes the AI very effective. As for increasing LH and Test, no one ever said it did, certainly Arimidex isn’t valueless just because it doesn’t increase LH. Propionate doesn’t increase LH either, it simply does what it is supposed to do. AIFM is supposed to slash estrogen. It does, and it has rave reviews. I hope Biotest comes out with a great product that is sucessful, but as I said, the bar is set pretty high. Most worthwhile compounds are not orally available. [/quote]

Hello again,

Thanks for the clarification.

That certainly can be a valid argument in certain cases (i.e. transdermal route providing higher BA than oral), but the only pilot study in humans I’ve seen actually indicated that oral bioavailability was not an issue.

In any event, I agree, it certainly does appear to be effective at decreasing estradiol. I’m saying that a metabolite of the parent compound has been shown to act as an androgen and in turn, negates the expected increase in LH as a result of inhibiting negative feedback.

But again, I won’t argue that it likely does decrease estrogens, just as you’ve said.

As a side note, Arimidex most certainly does increase LH.