Biology of Race

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Raj’s asinine views. May God save us all.

[therajraj]

Sam Harris just posted a rebuttal to that Vox article I posted earlier that attempted to refute Charles Murray’s the Bell Curve .A neuroscientist joins the list of people with asinine views

Sam Harris

[therajraj]

From the article above

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@therajraj

A neuroscientist joins the list of people with asinine views

You realize the largest influence on people thinking your views are asinine isn’t because you view IQ as important. It’s because you believe IQ = success to such a level that you would like to see America close its borders to these “low IQ people.” You also seem to refute the thought that IQ is influenced in a great way by environment compared to heritage.

[therajraj]

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@therajraj

A neuroscientist joins the list of people with asinine views

You realize the largest influence on people thinking your views are asinine isn’t because you view IQ as important. It’s because you believe IQ = success to such a level that you would like to see America close its borders to these “low IQ people.” You also seem to refute the thought that IQ is influenced in a great way by environment compared to heritage.

We didn’t even get to that point.

People haven’t even admitted blacks tend to be less intelligent than whites and a substantial portion of that gap in intelligence is genetic not environment.

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@therajraj

People haven’t even admitted blacks tend to be less intelligent than whites and a substantial portion of that gap in intelligence is genetic not environment.

Because “people” don’t blinding agree that IQ is the end all be all metric for intelligence (especially since you can’t define race). Also, since the majority of scientific research doesn’t point to genetics = intelligence it would be weird if people blindly followed that mantra.

People like you are the exception, as it reinforces the thoughts you already have and you like to ignore evidence that doesn’t agree with you, even when you’re the one posting it.

[therajraj]

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@therajraj

People haven’t even admitted blacks tend to be less intelligent than whites and a substantial portion of that gap in intelligence is genetic not environment.

Because “people” don’t blinding agree that IQ is the end all be all metric for intelligence (especially since you can’t define race). Also, since the majority of scientific research doesn’t point to genetics = intelligence it would be weird if people blindly followed that mantra.

People like you are the exception, as it reinforces the thoughts you already have and you like to ignore evidence that doesn’t agree with you, even when you’re the one posting it.

Trololololol

Tell me more!

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@therajraj

Trololololol

Tell me more!

You don’t have to agree with me. That’s the glory of your position. You’re so far into the minority that you’ll spend the rest of your life watching cultures and races integrate and there’s nothing you can do about it.

Feel free to keep pushing junk science for junk reasons without understanding half of it. The evolution of society will eventually weed people like you out.

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@therajraj

Trololololol

Tell me more!

You don’t have to agree with me. That’s the glory of your position. You’re so far into the minority that you’ll spend the rest of your life watching cultures and races integrate and there’s nothing you can do about it.

Feel free to keep pushing junk science for junk reasons without understanding half of it. The evolution of society will eventually weed people like you out.

Another word salad

Unless you can actually construct a cogent argument don’t bother posting

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@therajraj

Another word salad

Unless you can actually construct a cogent argument don’t bother posting

Argument: By your own logic, your existence in this country lowers the standards of White NW European culture that you claim is the best on the planet. By remaining in this country, you clearly don’t care about its success moving forward as you are actively contributing to its decline.

Side Argument: You care about race but can’t define it.

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@therajraj

Another word salad

Unless you can actually construct a cogent argument don’t bother posting

Argument: By your own logic, your existence in this country lowers the standards of White NW European culture that you claim is the best on the planet. By remaining in this country, you clearly don’t care about its success moving forward as you are actively contributing to its decline.

Side Argument: You care about race but can’t define it.

1. Is not an argument

2. you are just demonstrating you cannot understand this
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I should first explain my definition of “race.” In biological tradition the word race is simply synonymous with the terms “subspecies” or “variety.” The basic unit of classification in modern taxonomy is the species. A species is usually said to consist of a set of individuals capable of interbreeding and producing fertile offspring. If the offspring are not healthy and fertile, then the parent types are considered separate species. Mules are usually sterile so horses and donkeys are thought to be separate species.

However, in biology things are often fuzzy around the edges, and so it is with species. Sometimes what are considered to be separate species in nature can and will freely interbreed when brought together by man. Sometimes their hybrid offspring are partially or fully fertile. As one example of the fuzziness of species, consider Canis familiaris, the common dog, and Canis lupus, the Eurasian wolf. They are considered to be separate species because their habitats and life-styles are different. Within the dog species itself there are many varieties that are quite different in physiology and behavior. The tiny Mexican Chihuahua, would have a hard time mating with an Irish Wolfhound, but they are considered to be of the same species.

When wolves encounter dogs, they usually eat them. But sometimes they mate with them. When they mate it is almost always the male wolf with the female dog. The reverse is rare — male dogs are almost never able to mate with female wolves. The hybrid puppies are usually fully fertile, so by this definition Canis lupus and Canis familiaris are not different species. The point is that species and races are concepts of classification that often blur around the edges. This is because of the very nature of biological reality.

These days humans are thought to constitute one species — Homo sapiens. Humans are in many respects typical of geographically widespread mammalian species in that we are polymorphic (meaning we have “many forms”). This is what appears to us as individual differences. The bell-curve distribution of so many traits — height, weight, strength, intelligence, and the like — illustrates polymorphic traits. We are also typical among widespread mammals in being a polytypic species. Polytypic means “many types;” it is simply a fact of biological reality that not all different groups of humans are the same. Naturally occurring polytypic groups within a species are called varieties, subspecies, or races.
-Glayde Whitney

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@therajraj

1. Is not an argument

The argument is that you do not care about this country as you are actively making it worse by your own logic.

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2. you are just demonstrating you cannot understand this
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This is not a definition of race, but an explanation as to why the concept exists. If this was a definition of race, it would accurately place a human who is 33% Asian, 33% White, 34% black. Feel free to tell me what race the above person is if your quote explains that and I missed it.

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@therajraj

1. Is not an argument

The argument is that you do not care about this country as you are actively making it worse by your own logic.

@therajraj

2. you are just demonstrating you cannot understand this
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This is not a definition of race, but an explanation as to why the concept exists. If this was a definition of race, it would accurately place a human who is 33% Asian, 33% White, 34% black. Feel free to tell me what race the above person is if your quote explains that and I missed it.

The very first sentence says it’s subspecies or variety.

Again it’s clear you either have no clue (most likely) or you are a troll

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@therajraj

The very first sentence says it’s subspecies or variety.

Try again!

If the sentence can’t answer my question it doesn’t comprehensively define race. Unfortunately neither can you, so at least you have something in common with that sentence

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@therajraj

The very first sentence says it’s subspecies or variety.

Try again!

If the sentence can’t answer my question it doesn’t comprehensively define race. Unfortunately neither can you, so at least you have something in common with that sentence

The problem is you really Can’t grasp the definition of subspecies and what that entails. Your lack of comprehension doesn’t undo the concept of race

[therajraj]

He is just repeating lewontin fallacy which is debunked here

Lewontin's Fallacy?

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@therajraj

The problem is you really Can’t grasp the definition of subspecies and what that entails.

A subspecies is defined in the animal kingdom. Being able to define it is what makes it a subspecies.

@therajraj

Your lack of comprehension doesn’t undo the concept of race

I fully understand, accept, and acknowledge that races exist. I’ve said as much many times now in this thread. My stance is that due to the intermingling of our “subspecies,” it’s practically impossible to define race in a way that can be accurately applied to a randomly chosen human.

[therajraj]

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@therajraj

The problem is you really Can’t grasp the definition of subspecies and what that entails.

A subspecies is defined in the animal kingdom. Being able to define it is what makes it a subspecies.

@therajraj

Your lack of comprehension doesn’t undo the concept of race

I fully understand, accept, and acknowledge that races exist. I’ve said as much many times now in this thread. My stance is that due to the intermingling of our “subspecies,” it’s practically impossible to define race in a way that can be accurately applied to a randomly chosen human.

Of course you can. Most races group into clusters separated by geography.

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@therajraj

Of course you can. Most races group into clusters separated by geography.

Which would matter a great deal if humans weren’t capable of completely changing and living in any geographical environment on earth. Since that’s not a barrier to humans the way it is to most of the animal kingdom, you run into problems defining things. I would genuinely love to be wrong. If I’m wrong, then please answer my question. What race is 34% black, 33% asian, 33% white.

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@therajraj

Of course you can. Most races group into clusters separated by geography.

Which would matter a great deal if humans weren’t capable of completely changing and living in any geographical environment on earth. Since that’s not a barrier to humans the way it is to most of the animal kingdom, you run into problems defining things. I would genuinely love to be wrong. If I’m wrong, then please answer my question. What race is 34% black, 33% asian, 33% white.

If genetic tests are done on a group of people who are 99% European and then a group that’s 99% sub Sahara African, those results do not magically become irrelevant because there isn’t currently a name for someone who is mixed race