Because there’s variance within races as well. Just as Africans from West Africa have higher percentage of muscle twitch fibres that are good for sprinting while East Africans have a high muscle twitch fibres for long distance running.
Don’t African Americans have ~10-20% caucasian ancestry? Perhaps that plays a part? That also might help to explain why their IQs are higher than their sub-saharan African counterparts (should add African Americans don’t suffer from malnutrition at the rates people Sub Saharans in Africa do which affects IQ).
This was actually a semi-decent point, so I don’t want to let it pass.
I work on a variety of different projects, but finding “observable patterns between groups” is certainly a part of what I do. What’s interesting, though, is that my job is actually to go deeper than that - I want to understand patient-specific risks using the observable patterns between groups.
For example, here’s a project I worked on today: patients with high pulmonary artery pressure (a condition known as pulmonary hypertension) are thought to be at high risk of many poor health outcomes, to the point where it can be a disqualifier for receiving treatment for advanced organ problems (i.e. patients with severe kidney disease are sometimes taken off the transplant list if they have an elevated pulmonary artery pressure). However, some work that we have done in a couple different populations (patients with end-stage renal disease, patients undergoing aortic valve replacement) indicates that not all patients with high pulmonary artery pressure are the same risk; additional hemodynamic factors such as the cardiac output and pulmonary vascular resistance help us determine which PH patients are actually at elevated risk, and which have a more “benign” form of PH.
This is all sort of like your whole “blacks have lower IQ” thing. Even if blacks do tend to have lower IQ than whites, treating that as an observable pattern between groups and assuming that it’s an inherent genetic failing without further considering alternative explanations…well, stupid, but about on par for you.
No, it is not enough. Having racially based taxonomic categories for homo sapiens is not even close to being supported by anything you or any other white supremacist has ever said. Besides which I could kill someone by giving them peanuts and not knowing they had a peanut allergy. That means nothing other than that they had a peanut allergy.
“Children whose parents swam and encouraged them to swim had a much lower chance of drowning and a much higher chance of participating in swimming competitively. The study reported that Black American children were much less likely to have a parent who knew how to swim, have friends who knew how or enjoyed swimming, or have a parent who encouraged them to learn to swim. Knowing this, it would make sense to say that one cause of the underrepresentation of Black Americans in competitive swimming is that they just aren’t encouraged to participate.”
What makes you think I didn’t consider alternative explanations? I started in the same camp as you guys are now until I came across a similar discussion on T-nation as this one. It was between a poster named TigerTime and 2 black posters (professor X and darkninjaa).
Then over years of reading this stuff off and on, I completely became convinced of my current position.
Hye, nice job ignoring the rest of my post explaining how “observable patterns between groups” can be used to further inform specific things about individuals.
Oh good! You read some posts from black guys! I’m so glad you’re here to pass your enlightened understanding of race with us!
Translation: the rest of my post inconveniently illustrates that “observable patterns between groups” are multifaceted and complicated and often variable according to a number of other interdependent factors, and that’s problematic for your whole “blacks inferior” thing so it was better not to address it.
Alternative explanation: you stopped reading at “pulmonary” because you couldn’t understand the words.
If I had posted a self-reported study I would’ve been chastised to no end. What does it say to you moremuscle that they massively like your posts and withhold critique?
You got us! We’re all just Negro-lovers conditioned to love BLACK PEOPLE by the lamestream media!
Seriously, this is one of your weakest attempts yet. A “self-reported” study is not always wrong, champ. Take a big boy science class, you’ll learn someday.
You’re so out of your league. If you had ANY training in reading and analyzing research you would understand there are “limitations” or “gaps in the literature” in virtually every study.
You would understand that they can easily point out flaws about said information I posted above as I could. We are in on the joke…you are not.
You would understand that said studies were posted simply because Native Africans and African Americans (or Africans in the Carribean) share similar ancestors but exhibit starkly different health markers. Even in the self reported study the amount of obese subjects was 50%…very similar to US numbers.
For example, if AA are 10-20% caucasian then their risk for hypertension should decrease rather than increase since Europeans don’t demonstrate increased risk of hypertension. This would stand for virtually every disease in the realm of metabolic syndrome.
Simply put, mixing us with Whites should decrease incidence of these diseases, but instead it has come to increase this.
Interestingly enough, this pattern stands for Native Americans and Mexicans Americans as well.
There are so many conclusions that could be drawn…but you seem to find some sort of genetic cause as the only cause…everytime.
Your desire to be a White Supremacist outpaces your ability to interpret research and thus you try to reverse engineer your outcome everytime. Might I say there are scientists that are unethical about conducting research as well…so you are not alone. They just get outed when their research can’t be reproduced. You get outed for not even reading it.
If I were to use your logic, I would say you’re inferior because of your race…but you’re just inferior.
I’ll stop posting now. Have a good evening.
Celts, Slavs, Germans and Basques are races for all intents and purposes. And Celts and Slavs are not “Nordic”. The proto-Celts were from the Hallstatt culture.
Until you provide an actual definition of the term race, contentions about factors that purportedly co-vary with it cannot be evaluated.
If that were the case, race would already be well-ensconced in the taxonomic classification system. (It’s not.)
What it does is demonstrate that race, as you present it, is so ill-defined as to be meaningless. Consider:
‘Africans are all one race.’
But some Africans are faster than others, who in turn have greater endurance.
‘Really? OK, in that case there are TWO African races.’
In other words, you continually modify your use of the term ‘race’ so as to allow it to account for any new information with which you are confronted. From a science perspective, that sort of malleability renders a concept literally meaningless.