So when they do research on African Americans and Heart disease (for instance), how do they test for “African”. They can tell by melanin of the individual if their ancestors hailed from Africa.
If they have one Dutch ancestor… What are they?
What is a Mongol?
Where does race and ethnicity begin medically?
Yup! There’s a reason for this, and that is the white man’s Achilles heel which I will not identify or discuss on this board because there is chance of persecution in this politically correct world for those who dare to say something about race which is not music to some people’s ears.
Although I am thankful for all the things the white man has created and that I take for granted–all of which I use on a daily basis–and the civilizations he has built and married to a white woman and have white close friends, he definitely has a few fatal flaws.
Furthermore, I don’t even know why it’s implied that there’s something “wrong” with discussing or pointing out the differences amongst the races. In fact, I find the differences are what makes this world a darn interesting place and the differences are actually what make this world truly diverse! If we were all the same, with the same music, same inventions, same customs, same religions, same food, same physical structures, and so on, and so on, then there would not be any diversity at all!
And there is no human race as far as what I believe (of course I might actually be wrong, but I don’t think I am). There is one human species with different races.
But our biologically determined system of superior government shows we got them beat. I mean, Brahmin caste Indians still believe in castes, after all.
I am going to be honest here in saying that I am limited in what I’ve read on race. I am not a racial anthropologist or geneticist. There are people who can identity the racial makeup of individuals, and I am not one of them.
For your questions as far as my limited knowledge:
How distant is this ancestor? If a person has mixed race ancestry, say nearly all black lineage with one Dutch ancestor, then that person is of mixed race. Isn’t that clear cut?
A mongol is Asian.
I don’t understand the question. However, there are conditions that occur more frequently in some groups than others. For example, Tay Sachs is known as a “Jewish disease”, which is quite accurate because most cases are in fact Jewish, just as sickle-cell disease is more common in blacks compared to other groups.
I don’t know how the heck these diseases are somehow more frequently finding their ways into socially constructed groups! Can someone explain?
First, you kind of caught this conversation in media res, because this conversation has been directly or indirectly popping up in numerous political threads driven by rajraj. As such, you don’t know the background of what’s been happening. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with discussing differences between culture or background, or genetic ancestry in general–and you’re right: our differences in customs, histories, religions, foods, music, etc is what makes the world diverse and interesting.
The problem is, rajraj is on record in numerous spots using the concept of race to a) argue against diversity b) argue for the superiority in worth of one race over another. He of course denies this, and terms it “white culture”, but it is plain. He has quoted from Stormfront and Richard Spencer, and generally espoused actually harmful views. He is in fact on record admiring the efficiency of Nazis in rounding up Jews during WW2 and postulating that the same thing could be done now with Mexicans and Muslims. Seriously.
So the discussion is not about how diversity is driven by background, location, and everything else. Neither is it about scientific genetics. Raj has used the topic in every case to say some variant of “brown people are scary/shouldn’t be allowed into the country/No immigration/No muslims/Muslims will kill us all/etc/etc”.
So in theory and amongst civilized people I could quite enjoy a conversation about different histories and cultures and customs. That’s because in civilized company all people partaking in said discussion would have as their foundation the premise that “all people are created equal” in value as human beings. That isn’t rajraj though, and so this conversation isn’t quite as relaxed as one would wish.
All humans come from common genetic ancestors if you go far enough back. The differences between groups are based on adaptations, mutations And natural selection(epigenetics). That’s why Europeans can drink milk and other groups can’t. The base template is the same.
Some of these mutations can make a group who historically inhabited a certain area more or less susceptible.
By this definition, I would venture to say there’s not a person alive who is “fully” anything.
Further, if we go back far enough, we can all of us–no matter our skin tone, facial features, etc–trace our roots back to Mother Africa. Does that mean we are all, in a sense, ‘fully black’?
The problem is, rajraj is on record in numerous spots using the concept of race to a) argue against diversity [/quote]
Yes I did.
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b) argue for the superiority in worth of one race over another. [/quote]
Actually I said this:
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I never said there are inferior races.
In fact jews and Asians test better than whites in IQ and Africans test better on physical abilities.
There is no such thing as racial inferiority[/quote]
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He of course denies this, and terms it “white culture”, but it is plain.[/quote]
Only Europeans can create European culture as only Indians can create Indian culture and so forth.
I have a preference to live in a culturally NW European society… like America.
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He has quoted from Stormfront and Richard Spencer, and generally espoused actually harmful views. [/quote]
No I haven’t.
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He is in fact on record admiring the efficiency of Nazis in rounding up Jews during WW2 and postulating that the same thing could be done now with Mexicans and Muslims. Seriously.[/quote]
During the election there was debate over whether it is possible to round up millions of illegal immigrants.
I said roughly (i’m paraphrasing): That if the Nazis could easily round up millions of Jews 70 years ago, then surely the technology exists to round up millions of illegal immigrants in 2016.
The Leftists shit their pants, as usual.
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So the discussion is not about how diversity is driven by background, location, and everything else. Neither is it about scientific genetics. Raj has used the topic in every case to say some variant of “brown people are scary/shouldn’t be allowed into the country/No immigration/No muslims/Muslims will kill us all/etc/etc”. [/quote]
A muslim 5000% more likely to commit an act of terror than a non-muslim. 75% of central and mexican immigrants are on some form of welfare.
No it says to kill none believers who choose to live in the Jewish theocracy of Israel. They are welcomed to leave and given sanctuary cities to help them do it. Islam much rougher. They come and conquer you
Cultures can and do change quite a bit between locations within common sub races. Hence why your “I thought you said race isn’t real” comment doesn’t make a lot of sense. Also more importantly,
Cultures can and do change quite a bit between locations within common sub races. Hence why your “I thought you said race isn’t real” comment doesn’t make a lot of sense. Also more importantly,[/quote]
They still share common elements.
If you’re not satisfied with this evidence, you can calculate the figure yourself, all the information is available.