How much would it cost to get started? It’s something that interests me as well.
Compare and contrast to the inner workings of Japan where the average IQ is in the triple digits . A hole that big in Nigeria would never get fixed
Borrowing from another thread because this is too delicious:
Sort of like taking two very select anecdotes and then making sweeping statements about all Nigerians and all Japanese?
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Anecdotes are fair game when you are replying to that level of evidence.
You want to keep things scientific? It’s gotta come from both sides
Not much, relatively speaking. For home/hobby about $1500 would get you a solid machine, shield gas, and some good cutting tools, which covers a lot of ground. Millers low end stuff is not so good (but their heavy industrial is great), Lincolns is much better, and there are a couple like Everlast that people really love but I haven’t had any direct experience with.
The home market has really opened up wide, and I’m somewhat amazed at the options and features that are available now.
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Not sure where you’re getting those numbers but it’s 67 when I look it up.
As someone who has a social communication disorder this is rather challenging for me unfortunately. [quote=“MoreMuscle, post:174, topic:228430”]
It all starts with being able to relate to everyone
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Again, for me this is rather hard for me. @hugh_gilly
Alas, a lifelong condition.
Poor me. I’m doing playing the Autism Card to explain my irrational behaviour and will continue discussion as a normal cognitive human.
You don’t know who the woman I was referring to is, do you?
Actually, whoever wrote that list was bad at counting (or felt that Verbal SAT score was the most important criteria for ordering the list, but only sometimes and to a certain extent). For instance:
–Mathematical Science is listed after Philosophy inspite of having higher aggregate SAT scores and higher IQ scores.
–Chemical Engineering is listed behind Economics although it ties for IQ and has a higher aggregate SAT score.
–Engineering and Electrical Engineering are listed behind Other Humanities and Art and Physical Sciences although the former two both beat the latter two in IQ and aggregate SAT.
–Banking and Finance, Chemistry, and Computer and Information Science also beat Other Humanities and Art in both IQ and aggregate SAT.
The top 10 should include Engineering and Electrical Engineering instead of Other Humanities and Art and Physical Sciences. Actually, lacking other evidence, it seems that the order of the list was rigged slightly to make non-STEM fair better.
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Ya, that’s not bad.
Nah. I have more than that in 2 snowboards and a pair of pants.
I don’t even want to start counting with the fly gear (thank god I get most of my stuff for “product testing”).
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I see what you mean. Either 1) they erred a lot; 2) they used a weighting formula that they didn’t bother to explicate; or 3) the fields are ranked with respect to some aspect of the distribution of scores other than the mean (note the presence of the cryptic phrase Standard Deviation +/- 0.80 just above the top category Physics and Astronomy).
Total hijack: fly fishing?
About this point you’ve made, a video I found about the topic which I thought you might find interesting.
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Sorry. could not resist. (probably belongs in the race thread)
Anyways…
Yeah, Fly fishing. It’s been my main hobby for a good while now. But to be fair, I rely a good bit on sympathetic fish.
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I knew you were good people. 
(Sorry, end hijack.)
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No way man! If we’re going to hijack, lets take this bus to Cuba!
What’s your go to/favorite set up?
Thanks. I did go look at the very long article about wage gap from AAUW.
They lead with a stat about how women make 80% of the men, but once you get to page 17, where they look at other factors like major choice, etc… the gap becomes 6-8 percent. That may be true. I’ve seen many stats that do not account for years away from work, part-time work, differences in major choice. Also, you can find quirky stats like this one where we see race discrimination is much more likely for young Black men for example, than for Black women or older Black men. That stat falls away if the company requires a background check, then they are willing to hire young guys. Or stats about how women are less willing to commute longer distances.
They use the term “segregation” to explain why more women aren’t in very dangerous, physical or dirty jobs that pay more, like being deep sea fishermen, underwater welders, lumberjacks, or roofers. Maybe women really want to climb on the roof in Phoenix when it’s 110 degrees out. IMO, more men will take these things on, rather than stay home with the kids or take a lower paying office job while encouraging their wives to go get on the roof and lay tile. I’m not sure that’s an example of poor treatment. Lots of factors for these disparities, right? Cultural, but I’m not sure you’d call in discrimination or segregation. We don’t know how many women really want to do it, and are capable of doing these things, and are being kept out.
Anyway, organizations like the AAUW are going to go with the most sympathetic treatment of the numbers. They are an advocacy group. If there were no gap, there would be no reason for them to exist. It’s like encouraging people to become community organizers hoping for more peace in the community. There is no job if everyone is happy. Or creating whole departments for Inclusion and Diversity headed by a Provost who has many employees, and growing, then expecting that someday these people will say, “We did a great job and the problem is solved. You can lay us off now. Please give us a pink slip.”
We’re likely to get the opposite treatment of numbers from other groups who may be motivated to show that there is no longer a gap, using other stats or drilling down into the numbers more specifically.