To Pat Bateman: Says who?
is anal sex between a guy and a gal natural? not really but i enjoy it anyway
JonP…if I have to define “natural” for you…you have to tell me what the definition if “is” is…
Warhorse,
When a gay guy has a “girlfriend” so he can stay in the closet, that girl is called his “beard”. For some reason, I find that incredibly hilarious.
Dan “Clean-Shaven” McVicker
To those asking the question about the naturality thing, a psychiatrist recently said that 70% of people have the potential to play on both sides of the fence.
In short, given enough incentives (opportunity) or lack of, 70% of people can switch teams to fill their needs (or get filled ;p)
The classical prison setting comes to mind.
Beware the lonely fellow man. Well, at least 70% of them. ;p
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Yeah, what is wrong with being a stripper??
I have a few friends that strip…they have degrees AND other jobs, but the stripping pays well. Why not take advantage of men that like to give away their paychecks? Smart cookies, those strippers. [/quote]
Well said. And to the bolded part, don’t forget the women that pay good $$ to see the men.
PtrDR:
Is it unnatural for infertile heterosexuals to have sex?
Dan (Clean Shaven) McVicker:
His Beard? LOL!
Wow. That ruins it for me. I’ll sound gay if I say: “I’d like to nail that guys beard.”
Amy was a stripper at age 18.
Bill P. is not gay and gets more ass than a toilet seat. Female ass, that is.
Amy did appear in Playboy. I think TC helped get her in. She even gave him some classy nude photos of herself he still has hanging in his house.
All this has been written about in T-mag before. Nothing new.
I’ll tell you what sounds even worse warhorse. I’d like to bust a double horizontal on that guy’s beard.
PtrDr - Natural? That’s fucking insane. There are many men that have “natural” urges to fuck another man in the ass. They didn’t decide one day that they’d like to give a guy a pounding; they just felt it. How is that not “natural”?
So to answer your question, anal sex between men can be natural. So what the hell does that mean?
I don’t believe being “natural” can really convey morality on a situation either way. It’s natural to want to kill someone after they wrong you in a certain way, but we don’t do it (I hope not). It’s also natural to get hungry. This is why people questioned your use of the word “natural”.
Fucktard… I just can’t get enough of that one… ha ha ha
sorry it took me so longer to reply, my server was down. To answer the question, no I don’t think there is anything basically wrong with strippers. There isn’t anything basically wrong with anybody of any profession.
I only posted this cause I wanted to know if it is true. I remember seeing Amy on the video and thought she was incredibly hot so it pissed me off when I found out she was dating Bill Phillips (who I really thought was gay).
You could say that I wanted to find out if she was a stripper to knock her down a peg (in my mind) to make me feel better about myself. But that really isn’t the case. I just find strippers and playboy models really hot and it adds a little more of an edge to Amy beyond the fact that she is just another pretty face. I like girls who are proud of their bodies and not uptight about their sexuality as a woman. I find it a real turn on.
Living in princeton I am surrounded everyday by women who take themselves too seriously and hate being female soo much that even Maxim is considered like a nazi manifesto around here cause it is “degrading to women”.
So believe me when I say that this thread has nothing to do with degrading Amy Cusak. I am sure she is a really nice person and I am sorry if it in anyway seemed like an attempt to put her down.
Most Psychiatrists used to call Homosexuality, deviant behavior before the powerful Gay lobbying efforts changed all that.
In fact, it was the first time that the American Psychiactric Association actually changed their view based upon politics and not sound study!
As far as the act being “natural,” I suppose it is as natural as stealing or murder or any other “natrual” act that deviates from what is considered normal by the majority.
I remember reading a paper published not long ago. It seems that a study was done regarding male homosexuals. It determined from surveys that not one of the Homosexual subjects had had a good relationship with their father, (There was far more detail involved but that was the crux of it). This, they surmised brought out latent homosexual tendencys.
I do not have any idea if the above is actually true. However, it seems as good a notion as believing that nature created you to breed with your own gender. And did so without any outside social actions having any sort of bearing on your desire.
In other words, “I was just born that way” seems perhaps even more odd to me than the above study.
To PtrDr. I wasn’t copying a t.v. line cause I really believe there is nothing wrong with being gay. As far as being natural, do you really think that being ronnie coleman or Jay cutler is natural? Hell even flying isn’t natural for us humans. Or how about artificial hearts and vaccines and cars. None of these things we take for granted and cannot live without, are natural. Fake boobs aren’t natural and you aren’t gonna find me complaining about them. Just cause something is not part of your moral belief structure does not mean you have to label it as being bad cause it is not “natural”.
I believe that gay men especially are born that way, it is not a choice to be gay, just as it is also not a choice to be hetersexual. It is the way these guys are born, you have to get that into your head. YOu don’t have to condone it, you don’t even have to accept it, you just should be tolerant of it.
There is no way you can take a look at Amy Cusak and then look at TC and his hairy ass more. Amy Cusak is so hot she could melt a cheese sandwhich from 50 feet away, so why would you even consider TC unless that is a basic biological drive of yours.
On a personal note, I work with many homosexual men and I must say that almost all of them are better people (and examples of christians) then alot of the straight bible toting guys I know. I cannot think of one of them who is not heavily involved in charity work with a wide range of groups from autistic children to the homeless to local education groups. They are honest with me and respect my time and schedule. Whenever I need help, I can always rely on them not cause they want to bang me, but because they are genuinely nice people who know what it feels like to need help when there is none available. They are basically good people who just happen to be gay.
“You want to know what Bill’s like?” says T. C. Luoma, 44, a former editor of MM2K who now runs a bimonthly bodybuilding magazine called Testosterone. “You know the movie Nixon? Well, Nixon?that’s Bill.”
"On a personal note, I work with many homosexual men and I must say that almost all of them are better people (and examples of christians) then alot of the straight bible toting guys I know. I cannot think of one of them who is not heavily involved in charity work with a wide range of groups from autistic children to the homeless to local education groups. They are honest with me and respect my time and schedule. Whenever I need help, I can always rely on them not cause they want to bang me, but because they are genuinely nice people who know what it feels like to need help when there is none available. They are basically good people who just happen to be gay.
Shank – methinks you don’t have a real good understanding of what Christianity really is.
So were the men gay because of their relationships with their fathers, or were their relationships bad because they were gay? 
This also provides another instance where “natural” can have different meanings. Even though it’s stated as nature vs. nurture quite often, many people consider things that they have learned to do, “natural”.
I don’t believe he’s commenting on the nature of Christianity, but rather the nature of some of those professing to be Christians. Quite often, if someone has to tell you that they’re a Christian, something’s a bit off.
Ben,
My point exactly! I am just guessing but I think it may be a combination of nature and nuture.
If one has a homosexual bent (okay laugh it up) then the distant relationship with the father may bring it out.
who knows?