Bill Nye #2: Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:[quote]Tiribulus wrote:He hasn’t left anything Joe.[/quote]I think this is the only thing you’ve said that made much sense.[/quote]We are not communicating here Joe. I’ll take the blame. I meant He has not left. As in “departed”. He sustains everything that is.
[/quote]

Actually Tribulus, he never came here, he doesn’t sustain anything, and he doesn’t exist.
The bible is the word of some very primitive men, not of any God. Your beliefs are wrong. God and Jesus don’t exist. There is no God, and no heaven. Christianity, and all religion, can suck my old wrinkly balls :slight_smile:

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[quote]eraserhead wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]eraserhead wrote:
Naturally, the dilemma is resolved if man was created in the image of God, in which case our sense of logic is derived from a higher truth.
[/quote]

Ok first off that doesn’t sound natural at all.

And second of all, that is the god of the gaps argument: God of the gaps - Wikipedia

“We don’t know how something happened so NATURALLY(???) a magical being did it!”

Yeah you could resolve any dilemma if you input a magical being who can DO ANYTHING! Such a primitive way of thinking. And worst of all is that you try and pretend like you’re right by trying to sound smart about it. Congratulations you’re practically a walking disease.

[/quote]

I’m not going to bother with your insult at all. I do not at all believe in a God of gaps, so if it came off that way I’m sorry. You can replace naturally with “of course” if that makes you feel better.
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You’re the one who said “The dilemma is resolved if man was created in the image of God”. That leaves a pretty big gap because that doesn’t really explain anything You’ve just inserted a magical being to solve your problem. And like the above poster said, that just leaves a greater question of how did god get created.

Fill in the gaps then. Explain to me the process of how you believe god created us or just explain your beliefs in detail. Be very detailed because this isn’t a live conversation. How did god create us and how was he created?

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[quote]smh23 wrote:[quote]Tribulus wrote:Because I KNOW who I am, whose I am and where I’m going.[/quote]This has always struck me as fascinating. “Whose I am”–not only do you admit that you believe yourself a slave, but you celebrate it openly. >>>[/quote]Ohhh indeed I do. I love my master with my whole heart. [quote]smh23 wrote: You yearn to be a subject so strongly that you are willing to believe the unbelievable so long as it affirms the existence of your master–a master so powerful and so totally in control of you that He can and does condemn you for thought crime. >>>[/quote]Au contraire my friend. I AM subject, whether I like it or not. So are you. I am not condemned though. Jesus was condemned in my place. My slavery to Christ IS freedom from sin and death. Sin and death that you are still in bondage to. I remember all too well when it was me. [quote]smh23 wrote: <<< If it came about that some sort of incontrovertible evidence were presented to support Christian theology beyond any doubt, >>>[/quote]Has been the case since Genesis 1:1.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Has been the case since Genesis 1:1.
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That it is written does not make it true.

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Hey Tribulus if you’re so in love with scripture can you explain this one to me:

"If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, ?This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.? Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. " - Deuteronomy 21

That sounds to me like all fathers should be stoning their kids if they aren’t obedient right? Please help me understand Tribulus.

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[quote]OldManJoe wrote:
Hey Tribulus if you’re so in love with scripture can you explain this one to me:

"If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, ?This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.? Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. " - Deuteronomy 21

That sounds to me like all fathers should be stoning their kids if they aren’t obedient right? Please help me understand Tribulus.[/quote]

Yes, that’s what we’re supposed to do.

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[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]eraserhead wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]eraserhead wrote:
Naturally, the dilemma is resolved if man was created in the image of God, in which case our sense of logic is derived from a higher truth.
[/quote]

Ok first off that doesn’t sound natural at all.

And second of all, that is the god of the gaps argument: God of the gaps - Wikipedia

“We don’t know how something happened so NATURALLY(???) a magical being did it!”

Yeah you could resolve any dilemma if you input a magical being who can DO ANYTHING! Such a primitive way of thinking. And worst of all is that you try and pretend like you’re right by trying to sound smart about it. Congratulations you’re practically a walking disease.

[/quote]

I’m not going to bother with your insult at all. I do not at all believe in a God of gaps, so if it came off that way I’m sorry. You can replace naturally with “of course” if that makes you feel better.
[/quote]

You’re the one who said “The dilemma is resolved if man was created in the image of God”. That leaves a pretty big gap because that doesn’t really explain anything You’ve just inserted a magical being to solve your problem. And like the above poster said, that just leaves a greater question of how did god get created.

Fill in the gaps then. Explain to me the process of how you believe god created us or just explain your beliefs in detail. Be very detailed because this isn’t a live conversation. How did god create us and how was he created?
[/quote]

God is Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, not a magical being. This is a prime example of what I wrote about in the previous post. Why do you assume that the Creator must have been created? Let us assume that the big bang theory is correct. In that case, time and space exist as a result of an expansion of singularity, where everything that will ever come to be was once contained. “Outside” of this, there is no time or space, nor “was” there “before”. I put these terms in quotation marks since it is a fallacy to talk about what was before time, or outside of space, since there “was” no time or space at all. God is eternal, he is not here or there.

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[quote]eraserhead wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]eraserhead wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]eraserhead wrote:
Naturally, the dilemma is resolved if man was created in the image of God, in which case our sense of logic is derived from a higher truth.
[/quote]

Ok first off that doesn’t sound natural at all.

And second of all, that is the god of the gaps argument: God of the gaps - Wikipedia

“We don’t know how something happened so NATURALLY(???) a magical being did it!”

Yeah you could resolve any dilemma if you input a magical being who can DO ANYTHING! Such a primitive way of thinking. And worst of all is that you try and pretend like you’re right by trying to sound smart about it. Congratulations you’re practically a walking disease.

[/quote]

I’m not going to bother with your insult at all. I do not at all believe in a God of gaps, so if it came off that way I’m sorry. You can replace naturally with “of course” if that makes you feel better.
[/quote]

You’re the one who said “The dilemma is resolved if man was created in the image of God”. That leaves a pretty big gap because that doesn’t really explain anything You’ve just inserted a magical being to solve your problem. And like the above poster said, that just leaves a greater question of how did god get created.

Fill in the gaps then. Explain to me the process of how you believe god created us or just explain your beliefs in detail. Be very detailed because this isn’t a live conversation. How did god create us and how was he created?
[/quote]

God is Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, not a magical being. This is a prime example of what I wrote about in the previous post. Why do you assume that the Creator must have a beginning? Let us assume that the big bang theory is correct. In that case, time and space exist as a result of an expansion of singularity, where everything that will ever come to be was once contained. “Outside” of this, there is no time or space, nor “was” there “before”. I put these terms in quotation marks since it is a fallacy to talk about what was before time, or outside of space, since there “was” no time or space at all. God is eternal, he is not here or there.
[/quote]

You didn’t fill in the gaps though. You said there was a god, and he created the humans and earth. But you didn’t explain the method in which he did this. Explain to me the process of how you believe god created us.

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[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]eraserhead wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]eraserhead wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]eraserhead wrote:
Naturally, the dilemma is resolved if man was created in the image of God, in which case our sense of logic is derived from a higher truth.
[/quote]

Ok first off that doesn’t sound natural at all.

And second of all, that is the god of the gaps argument: God of the gaps - Wikipedia

“We don’t know how something happened so NATURALLY(???) a magical being did it!”

Yeah you could resolve any dilemma if you input a magical being who can DO ANYTHING! Such a primitive way of thinking. And worst of all is that you try and pretend like you’re right by trying to sound smart about it. Congratulations you’re practically a walking disease.

[/quote]

I’m not going to bother with your insult at all. I do not at all believe in a God of gaps, so if it came off that way I’m sorry. You can replace naturally with “of course” if that makes you feel better.
[/quote]

You’re the one who said “The dilemma is resolved if man was created in the image of God”. That leaves a pretty big gap because that doesn’t really explain anything You’ve just inserted a magical being to solve your problem. And like the above poster said, that just leaves a greater question of how did god get created.

Fill in the gaps then. Explain to me the process of how you believe god created us or just explain your beliefs in detail. Be very detailed because this isn’t a live conversation. How did god create us and how was he created?
[/quote]

God is Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, not a magical being. This is a prime example of what I wrote about in the previous post. Why do you assume that the Creator must have a beginning? Let us assume that the big bang theory is correct. In that case, time and space exist as a result of an expansion of singularity, where everything that will ever come to be was once contained. “Outside” of this, there is no time or space, nor “was” there “before”. I put these terms in quotation marks since it is a fallacy to talk about what was before time, or outside of space, since there “was” no time or space at all. God is eternal, he is not here or there.
[/quote]

You didn’t fill in the gaps though. You said there was a god, and he created the humans and earth. But you didn’t explain the method in which he did this. Explain to me the process of how you believe god created us.
[/quote]
Well you obviously didn’t get any of the essence of what I wrote, I must suck at explaining my thoughts. Ask Tiribulus, he should give you a nice and straightforward answer. I have to work now.

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[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:
Hey Tribulus if you’re so in love with scripture can you explain this one to me:

"If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, ?This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.? Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. " - Deuteronomy 21

That sounds to me like all fathers should be stoning their kids if they aren’t obedient right? Please help me understand Tribulus.[/quote]

Yes, that’s what we’re supposed to do.
[/quote]

Ok can you please type specifically what you think we’re supposed to do. I want to actually see you type that you believe we’re supposed to stone our kids if they disobey and write about how you specifically believe you should kill your own son with stones if he disobeys. I.e. do not just say “Yes that’s what were supposed to do.”

Pretend I’ve never read the bible and you have to pass on gods instruction to me in your own words.

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[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:
Hey Tribulus if you’re so in love with scripture can you explain this one to me:

"If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, ?This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.? Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. " - Deuteronomy 21

That sounds to me like all fathers should be stoning their kids if they aren’t obedient right? Please help me understand Tribulus.[/quote]

Yes, that’s what we’re supposed to do.
[/quote]

Ok can you please type specifically what you think we’re supposed to do. I want to actually see you type that you believe we’re supposed to stone our kids if they disobey and write about how you specifically believe you should kill your own son with stones if he disobeys. I.e. do not just say “Yes that’s what were supposed to do.”

Pretend I’ve never read the bible and you have to pass on gods instruction to me in your own words.
[/quote]

I’m saying you’ve figured us out. Christians are supposed to stone kids.

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[quote]eraserhead wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]eraserhead wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]eraserhead wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]eraserhead wrote:
Naturally, the dilemma is resolved if man was created in the image of God, in which case our sense of logic is derived from a higher truth.
[/quote]

Ok first off that doesn’t sound natural at all.

And second of all, that is the god of the gaps argument: God of the gaps - Wikipedia

“We don’t know how something happened so NATURALLY(???) a magical being did it!”

Yeah you could resolve any dilemma if you input a magical being who can DO ANYTHING! Such a primitive way of thinking. And worst of all is that you try and pretend like you’re right by trying to sound smart about it. Congratulations you’re practically a walking disease.

[/quote]

I’m not going to bother with your insult at all. I do not at all believe in a God of gaps, so if it came off that way I’m sorry. You can replace naturally with “of course” if that makes you feel better.
[/quote]

You’re the one who said “The dilemma is resolved if man was created in the image of God”. That leaves a pretty big gap because that doesn’t really explain anything You’ve just inserted a magical being to solve your problem. And like the above poster said, that just leaves a greater question of how did god get created.

Fill in the gaps then. Explain to me the process of how you believe god created us or just explain your beliefs in detail. Be very detailed because this isn’t a live conversation. How did god create us and how was he created?
[/quote]

God is Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, not a magical being. This is a prime example of what I wrote about in the previous post. Why do you assume that the Creator must have a beginning? Let us assume that the big bang theory is correct. In that case, time and space exist as a result of an expansion of singularity, where everything that will ever come to be was once contained. “Outside” of this, there is no time or space, nor “was” there “before”. I put these terms in quotation marks since it is a fallacy to talk about what was before time, or outside of space, since there “was” no time or space at all. God is eternal, he is not here or there.
[/quote]

You didn’t fill in the gaps though. You said there was a god, and he created the humans and earth. But you didn’t explain the method in which he did this. Explain to me the process of how you believe god created us.
[/quote]
Well you obviously didn’t get any of the essence of what I wrote, I must suck at explaining my thoughts. Ask Tiribulus, he should give you a nice and straightforward answer. I have to work now.[/quote]

There is nothing straightforward about tribulus. And I acknowledge now that instead of admitting you don’t know, you have dodged the question like an immature little weakling. Wouldn’t want you workin’ for me kid.

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[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:
Hey Tribulus if you’re so in love with scripture can you explain this one to me:

"If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, ?This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.? Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. " - Deuteronomy 21

That sounds to me like all fathers should be stoning their kids if they aren’t obedient right? Please help me understand Tribulus.[/quote]

Yes, that’s what we’re supposed to do.
[/quote]

Ok can you please type specifically what you think we’re supposed to do. I want to actually see you type that you believe we’re supposed to stone our kids if they disobey and write about how you specifically believe you should kill your own son with stones if he disobeys. I.e. do not just say “Yes that’s what were supposed to do.”

Pretend I’ve never read the bible and you have to pass on gods instruction to me in your own words.
[/quote]

I’m saying you’ve figured us out. Christians are supposed to stone kids.[/quote]

Then how come you and other Christians don’t do it when your kids are disobedient? Shouldn’t their be stoned kids turning up everywhere?

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[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:
Hey Tribulus if you’re so in love with scripture can you explain this one to me:

"If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, ?This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.? Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. " - Deuteronomy 21

That sounds to me like all fathers should be stoning their kids if they aren’t obedient right? Please help me understand Tribulus.[/quote]

Yes, that’s what we’re supposed to do.
[/quote]

Ok can you please type specifically what you think we’re supposed to do. I want to actually see you type that you believe we’re supposed to stone our kids if they disobey and write about how you specifically believe you should kill your own son with stones if he disobeys. I.e. do not just say “Yes that’s what were supposed to do.”

Pretend I’ve never read the bible and you have to pass on gods instruction to me in your own words.
[/quote]

I’m saying you’ve figured us out. Christians are supposed to stone kids.[/quote]

Then how come you don’t do it when your kids are disobedient? Shouldn’t their be stoned kids turning up everywhere? [/quote]

We’re good at making it look like a random rock-slide accident.

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[quote]OldManJoe wrote:[quote]Tiribulus wrote:He hasn’t left anything Joe.[/quote]I think this is the only thing you’ve said that made much sense.[/quote]We are not communicating here Joe. I’ll take the blame. I meant He has not left. As in “departed”. He sustains everything that is.

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[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:
Hey Tribulus if you’re so in love with scripture can you explain this one to me:

"If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, ?This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.? Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. " - Deuteronomy 21

That sounds to me like all fathers should be stoning their kids if they aren’t obedient right? Please help me understand Tribulus.[/quote]

Yes, that’s what we’re supposed to do.
[/quote]

Ok can you please type specifically what you think we’re supposed to do. I want to actually see you type that you believe we’re supposed to stone our kids if they disobey and write about how you specifically believe you should kill your own son with stones if he disobeys. I.e. do not just say “Yes that’s what were supposed to do.”

Pretend I’ve never read the bible and you have to pass on gods instruction to me in your own words.
[/quote]

I’m saying you’ve figured us out. Christians are supposed to stone kids.[/quote]

Then how come you don’t do it when your kids are disobedient? Shouldn’t their be stoned kids turning up everywhere? [/quote]

We’re good at making it look like a random rock-slide accident. [/quote]

Translation: “I forfeit, you’re right, Christianity doesn’t make sense.”

Thank you for your time.

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[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:
Hey Tribulus if you’re so in love with scripture can you explain this one to me:

"If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, ?This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.? Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. " - Deuteronomy 21

That sounds to me like all fathers should be stoning their kids if they aren’t obedient right? Please help me understand Tribulus.[/quote]

Yes, that’s what we’re supposed to do.
[/quote]

Ok can you please type specifically what you think we’re supposed to do. I want to actually see you type that you believe we’re supposed to stone our kids if they disobey and write about how you specifically believe you should kill your own son with stones if he disobeys. I.e. do not just say “Yes that’s what were supposed to do.”

Pretend I’ve never read the bible and you have to pass on gods instruction to me in your own words.
[/quote]

I’m saying you’ve figured us out. Christians are supposed to stone kids.[/quote]

Then how come you don’t do it when your kids are disobedient? Shouldn’t their be stoned kids turning up everywhere? [/quote]

We’re good at making it look like a random rock-slide accident. [/quote]

Translation: “I forfeit, you’re right, Christianity doesn’t make sense.”

Thank you for your time.[/quote]

Why so hostile? I’m backing you up.

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[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]eraserhead wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]eraserhead wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]eraserhead wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]eraserhead wrote:
Naturally, the dilemma is resolved if man was created in the image of God, in which case our sense of logic is derived from a higher truth.
[/quote]

Ok first off that doesn’t sound natural at all.

And second of all, that is the god of the gaps argument: God of the gaps - Wikipedia

“We don’t know how something happened so NATURALLY(???) a magical being did it!”

Yeah you could resolve any dilemma if you input a magical being who can DO ANYTHING! Such a primitive way of thinking. And worst of all is that you try and pretend like you’re right by trying to sound smart about it. Congratulations you’re practically a walking disease.

[/quote]

I’m not going to bother with your insult at all. I do not at all believe in a God of gaps, so if it came off that way I’m sorry. You can replace naturally with “of course” if that makes you feel better.
[/quote]

You’re the one who said “The dilemma is resolved if man was created in the image of God”. That leaves a pretty big gap because that doesn’t really explain anything You’ve just inserted a magical being to solve your problem. And like the above poster said, that just leaves a greater question of how did god get created.

Fill in the gaps then. Explain to me the process of how you believe god created us or just explain your beliefs in detail. Be very detailed because this isn’t a live conversation. How did god create us and how was he created?
[/quote]

God is Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, not a magical being. This is a prime example of what I wrote about in the previous post. Why do you assume that the Creator must have a beginning? Let us assume that the big bang theory is correct. In that case, time and space exist as a result of an expansion of singularity, where everything that will ever come to be was once contained. “Outside” of this, there is no time or space, nor “was” there “before”. I put these terms in quotation marks since it is a fallacy to talk about what was before time, or outside of space, since there “was” no time or space at all. God is eternal, he is not here or there.
[/quote]

You didn’t fill in the gaps though. You said there was a god, and he created the humans and earth. But you didn’t explain the method in which he did this. Explain to me the process of how you believe god created us.
[/quote]
Well you obviously didn’t get any of the essence of what I wrote, I must suck at explaining my thoughts. Ask Tiribulus, he should give you a nice and straightforward answer. I have to work now.[/quote]

There is nothing straightforward about tribulus. And I acknowledge now that instead of admitting you don’t know, you have dodged the question like an immature little weakling. Wouldn’t want you workin’ for me kid.[/quote]

When did I claim to know the “process” by which God created us? Quite to the contrary actually, if by knowing you mean some kind of empirical knowledge. As someone who believes in evolution, you should realize that your question must be informed only by your animal brain and understanding. There is no reason whatsoever to assume that you should be capable of understanding metaphysics to any degree. Asking about the “process” by which God created us is just as ill formed as asking about what was before time.

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[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:
Hey Tribulus if you’re so in love with scripture can you explain this one to me:

"If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, ?This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.? Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. " - Deuteronomy 21

That sounds to me like all fathers should be stoning their kids if they aren’t obedient right? Please help me understand Tribulus.[/quote]

Yes, that’s what we’re supposed to do.
[/quote]

Ok can you please type specifically what you think we’re supposed to do. I want to actually see you type that you believe we’re supposed to stone our kids if they disobey and write about how you specifically believe you should kill your own son with stones if he disobeys. I.e. do not just say “Yes that’s what were supposed to do.”

Pretend I’ve never read the bible and you have to pass on gods instruction to me in your own words.
[/quote]

I’m saying you’ve figured us out. Christians are supposed to stone kids.[/quote]

Then how come you don’t do it when your kids are disobedient? Shouldn’t their be stoned kids turning up everywhere? [/quote]

We’re good at making it look like a random rock-slide accident. [/quote]

Translation: “I forfeit, you’re right, Christianity doesn’t make sense.”

Thank you for your time.[/quote]

Why so hostile? I’m backing you up.
[/quote]

No you’re not you’re acting like a douche. You’re only serious in the convo until you have no answers then you just try and play it off. It just shows you’re not confident in the discussion.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]OldManJoe wrote:[quote]Tiribulus wrote:He hasn’t left anything Joe.[/quote]I think this is the only thing you’ve said that made much sense.[/quote]We are not communicating here Joe. I’ll take the blame. I meant He has not left. As in “departed”. He sustains everything that is.
[/quote]

Actually Tribulus, he never came here, he doesn’t sustain anything, and he doesn’t exist.
The bible is the word of some very primitive men, not of any God. Your beliefs are wrong. God and Jesus don’t exist. There is no God, and no heaven. Christianity, and all religion, can suck my old wrinkly balls :slight_smile: