[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
quidnunc wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
quidnunc wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
quidnunc wrote:
You think Lincoln was a tyrant? You think every government that has ever existed was a tyranny? You’re really hard to take seriously.
Lincoln was most certainly a very bad man. He was a democratically elected tyrant for sure – just like many of them are.
Okay, you’re a crackpot. Thanks for clearing that up.
What do you call a person who murders over half a million people because he does not want them to have their own freedom?
I am afraid I am not the crackpot but rather you are because you, like many others, willingly swallow all the “educational” propaganda you’ve been fed.
There are acceptable reasons to rebel against a lawfully elected government. Defending chattel slavery is not one of them.
You think Lincoln cared about slavery? That was his scapegoat to kill southerners.
Slavery was abolished by the free market and not government all over the world. Why was murder necessary in the US to change something that sound economic reasoning ultimately leads to anyway?[/quote]
Slavery was abolished in Britain and its colonies by (mostly religious) activists, and was opposed by most capitalist interests at the time. Britain’s ban on the Atlantic slave trade was enforced by the full might of the Royal Navy.
The US might have gone down the same path, had not part of the country decide they’d rather commit treason then be denied the right to own human beings. Here’s Alexander Stephens, VP of the Confederacy:
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The new [Confederate] constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution â?? African slavery as it exists amongst us â?? the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the “rock upon which the old Union would split.” He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted.
(Jefferson's) ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. ... Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its cornerâ??stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery â?? subordination to the superior race â?? is his natural and normal condition.[/quote]
And here’s the South Carolina Declaration of Secession
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We affirm that these ends for which this Government was instituted have been defeated, and the Government itself has been made destructive of them by the action of the non-slaveholding States. Those States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection.[/quote]
Your assertion that Lincoln “wanted to kill Southerners” would be laughable if it weren’t so offensive. I know that you can’t back this up with a source, but feel obligated to ask you to.