Big D*ck Inferiority Complex

[quote]orion wrote:
Just to clear up any confusion, your FRAME is not what you want the world to be, or what you believe the world to be, though that is debatable, ultimately it is what you WILL the world to be.

You hold no such frame unless your name is Gaius Julius Caesar and you have a month named after you. [/quote]

I understand the concept of FRAME, orion. The frame through which I view the world and upon which I base my attitudes and actions. Although I do impose my will on others on a daily basis, that is not particularly a motivation of mine. As it is not of any emotionally healthy individual, in my opinion. Makes me think of a tantruming child, trying to will the world to be what it wants and then shrieking in pain and disappointment when the world does not respond as desired.

OFF TOPIC: Orion I don’t know if you know who king edgar is from final fantasy III (super nintendo), but last night I had a dream that you came up to where I live on a white horse with the intention of over throwing him and taking place as ruler.
You talked like this old school medevil guy and you had a really thick red fancy cape.

…

I have no idea what you look like, but it was you in my head.

K, Back to talking about whatever you people are talking about, LOL.

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
OFF TOPIC: Orion I don’t know if you know who king edgar is from final fantasy III (super nintendo), but last night I had a dream that you came up to where I live on a white horse with the intention of over throwing him and taking place as ruler.
You talked like this old school medevil guy and you had a really thick red fancy cape.

…

I have no idea what you look like, but it was you in my head.

K, Back to talking about whatever you people are talking about, LOL. [/quote]
Lol. True to what you said in your log whenever you have a dream about someone you feel that it is their right to know.

I am going to try and post a picture of edgar for visual reference purposes

He is the one with the arrow over his head

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
OFF TOPIC: Orion I don’t know if you know who king edgar is from final fantasy III (super nintendo), but last night I had a dream that you came up to where I live on a white horse with the intention of over throwing him and taking place as ruler.
You talked like this old school medevil guy and you had a really thick red fancy cape.

…

I have no idea what you look like, but it was you in my head.

K, Back to talking about whatever you people are talking about, LOL. [/quote]
Lol. True to what you said in your log whenever you have a dream about someone you feel that it is their right to know.[/quote]

It still bothers me that I don’t think postholedigger read the post where I told him about my dream, HAHA

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
OFF TOPIC: Orion I don’t know if you know who king edgar is from final fantasy III (super nintendo), but last night I had a dream that you came up to where I live on a white horse with the intention of over throwing him and taking place as ruler.
You talked like this old school medevil guy and you had a really thick red fancy cape.

…

I have no idea what you look like, but it was you in my head.

K, Back to talking about whatever you people are talking about, LOL. [/quote]

Well, to be honest, the first time I read that post all I saw was ā€œwhite horseā€.

That was not good.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Do you really encounter a great number of exceptionally bright, good looking, ethical and interesting men? Recently I have come across one such, the risk director at my former workplace. Very handsome, funny, charming, extremely bright, PhD in psych without being feminine…I’m guessing mid-thirties (married with kids). Anyway, so that’s one who meets the ā€œfab guy in every wayā€ criteria. I also worked with a kid of that sort, but he was gay. A year or so ago I went out with a doctor who is very bright, very fit (a reserve army guy) and while not VERY handsome, pretty good looking. One problem was that he was a little boring. The two dates we went on were LONG. And now, thanks to him, I view my cat as a sociopath because he monologued about brain differences in cats and dogs.
[/quote]

I don’t encounter a lot of people, in general, anymore. When I was taking grad school classes, I did encounter many intelligent, good looking, interesting men. I have no way of knowing if they were all ethical.
I’m not saying that we live in the era of the ubermensch. But there are certainly plenty of well-rounded men out there who don’t necessarily excel in each category, but are probably going to be perceived as the better choice. And it really, really sucks to be boring.

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
OFF TOPIC: Orion I don’t know if you know who king edgar is from final fantasy III (super nintendo), but last night I had a dream that you came up to where I live on a white horse with the intention of over throwing him and taking place as ruler.
You talked like this old school medevil guy and you had a really thick red fancy cape.

…

I have no idea what you look like, but it was you in my head.

K, Back to talking about whatever you people are talking about, LOL. [/quote]

In your dream did Edgar kill Orion with his drill? I’m guessing he did, because a) it’s a hilarious metaphor and b) drill is OP as fuck.

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
OFF TOPIC: Orion I don’t know if you know who king edgar is from final fantasy III (super nintendo), but last night I had a dream that you came up to where I live on a white horse with the intention of over throwing him and taking place as ruler.
You talked like this old school medevil guy and you had a really thick red fancy cape.

…

I have no idea what you look like, but it was you in my head.

K, Back to talking about whatever you people are talking about, LOL. [/quote]

In your dream did Edgar kill Orion with his drill? I’m guessing he did, because a) it’s a hilarious metaphor and b) drill is OP as fuck.[/quote]

I don’t really remember what happened, but I am very excited that you know about Edgar and his drill.

I was always a Sabin fan though, just somethin’ 'bout the way he pummeled…

[quote]Spock81 wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
OFF TOPIC: Orion I don’t know if you know who king edgar is from final fantasy III (super nintendo), but last night I had a dream that you came up to where I live on a white horse with the intention of over throwing him and taking place as ruler.
You talked like this old school medevil guy and you had a really thick red fancy cape.

…

I have no idea what you look like, but it was you in my head.

K, Back to talking about whatever you people are talking about, LOL. [/quote]

In your dream did Edgar kill Orion with his drill? I’m guessing he did, because a) it’s a hilarious metaphor and b) drill is OP as fuck.[/quote]

I don’t really remember what happened, but I am very excited that you know about Edgar and his drill.

I was always a Sabin fan though, just somethin’ 'bout the way he pummeled…[/quote]

This thread is now about how frustrating it was(or is, afk playing FF3 again) to miss a Bum Rush or Airwave- stupid circular motions on 4 direction d-pads…

[quote]nephorm wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Do you really encounter a great number of exceptionally bright, good looking, ethical and interesting men? Recently I have come across one such, the risk director at my former workplace. Very handsome, funny, charming, extremely bright, PhD in psych without being feminine…I’m guessing mid-thirties (married with kids). Anyway, so that’s one who meets the ā€œfab guy in every wayā€ criteria. I also worked with a kid of that sort, but he was gay. A year or so ago I went out with a doctor who is very bright, very fit (a reserve army guy) and while not VERY handsome, pretty good looking. One problem was that he was a little boring. The two dates we went on were LONG. And now, thanks to him, I view my cat as a sociopath because he monologued about brain differences in cats and dogs.
[/quote]

I don’t encounter a lot of people, in general, anymore. When I was taking grad school classes, I did encounter many intelligent, good looking, interesting men. I have no way of knowing if they were all ethical.
I’m not saying that we live in the era of the ubermensch. But there are certainly plenty of well-rounded men out there who don’t necessarily excel in each category, but are probably going to be perceived as the better choice. And it really, really sucks to be boring.[/quote]

Dude, you have read at least as much books as me and that means you have read thousands.

I knew a girl in my twenties, that was a solid ten, if you believe in such a thing and you know why whe will never forget me, even though tens of thousands of men must have hit on her?

Because I found out that she had not read Poo the Bear and next time we met she got a copy.

This cost nothing, but I would bet my live on it that she still has that book and that she treasures it.

Next thing I got her was ā€œMister God, this is Annaā€ from Finn.

I never spent more than 100 bucks on her and I knew her for a long time, but this is what she wanted, this is what she needed.

You think that women go for all kind of things and that is true, but for some you are the jackpot.

This is what they want, this is real value that you have accumulated without even knowing it, for a lot of them you will be intimitating.

WHich is good by the way.

Why do you seek reasons for them not to want you, that is their problem, not yours and they are amazingly good at it anyway.

And not just in your case.

Oh, and after you have introduced her to something that moves her to tears, like the two books I have just mentioned, you must watch Deuce Bigalow, European Gigolo with her.

If you know you have a brain you dont need to parade it all the time, in fact, you can do hella stupid stuff.

I have an up to date collection of ā€œThe Walking Deadā€ comics, oh yes, I do.

You are like Cyrano, you think they wont want you because your nose is too big.

He completely fails to see that he is a poet and a fighter and that he is strong and brave and cool as fuck and he totally fails to see it because all he sees is his fucking nose.

Nobody gives a shit about your nose.

I love when these conversations spring up on the boards.

Since PM’s don’t work for me:

Orion, what are some good sources of info for someone who wants to learn and understand more? Like books to read, sites to follow. I’ve read quite a few books already from some of AC’s recommendations, and checked out the seddit site I saw you post some time ago.

I’m pretty much obsessed with learning about this stuff, and have been for a while now. It’s fascinating, and from what I’ve experienced there is a ton of truth in it. Just hard to find a solid source of info from the PUA stuff sometimes, and I’ve read quite a few.

[quote]fisch wrote:
I love when these conversations spring up on the boards.

Since PM’s don’t work for me:

Orion, what are some good sources of info for someone who wants to learn and understand more? Like books to read, sites to follow. I’ve read quite a few books already from some of AC’s recommendations, and checked out the seddit site I saw you post some time ago.

I’m pretty much obsessed with learning about this stuff, and have been for a while now. It’s fascinating, and from what I’ve experienced there is a ton of truth in it. Just hard to find a solid source of info from the PUA stuff sometimes, and I’ve read quite a few.[/quote]

If you want to know what I read, its The Rational Male, The Private Man and Dalrock.

A quick google search should find them all.

That however is not strictly Game, but I believe it to be important to understand the society that made game necessary.

Serously, that is what a lot of wannabe PUAs are totally missing out on.

Other than that there are tons of RSD and David de Angelo stuff free on Youube, if that does not make some things fall into place, nothing will.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]fisch wrote:
I love when these conversations spring up on the boards.

Since PM’s don’t work for me:

Orion, what are some good sources of info for someone who wants to learn and understand more? Like books to read, sites to follow. I’ve read quite a few books already from some of AC’s recommendations, and checked out the seddit site I saw you post some time ago.

I’m pretty much obsessed with learning about this stuff, and have been for a while now. It’s fascinating, and from what I’ve experienced there is a ton of truth in it. Just hard to find a solid source of info from the PUA stuff sometimes, and I’ve read quite a few.[/quote]

If you want to know what I read, its The Rational Male, The Private Man and Dalrock.

A quick google search should find them all.

That however is not strictly Game, but I believe it to be important to understand the society that made game necessary.

Serously, that is what a lot of wannabe PUAs are totally missing out on.

Other than that there are tons of RSD and David de Angelo stuff free on Youube, if that does not make some things fall into place, nothing will. [/quote]

Oh, and read the discussions.

All of them.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]fisch wrote:
I love when these conversations spring up on the boards.

Since PM’s don’t work for me:

Orion, what are some good sources of info for someone who wants to learn and understand more? Like books to read, sites to follow. I’ve read quite a few books already from some of AC’s recommendations, and checked out the seddit site I saw you post some time ago.

I’m pretty much obsessed with learning about this stuff, and have been for a while now. It’s fascinating, and from what I’ve experienced there is a ton of truth in it. Just hard to find a solid source of info from the PUA stuff sometimes, and I’ve read quite a few.[/quote]

If you want to know what I read, its The Rational Male, The Private Man and Dalrock.

A quick google search should find them all.

That however is not strictly Game, but I believe it to be important to understand the society that made game necessary.

Serously, that is what a lot of wannabe PUAs are totally missing out on.

Other than that there are tons of RSD and David de Angelo stuff free on Youube, if that does not make some things fall into place, nothing will. [/quote]

Oh, and read the discussions.

All of them.[/quote]

Cool thanks, I’ve seen and read some RSD and DeAngelo stuff already but a while ago and not much so I’ll check them out. I’ll check out those other 3 too, while I like reading about Game and find useful info from it im also just incredibly interested in human interactions in general and why people act the way we do and how society shaped it.

I assume you mean the discussions on this board?

[quote]orion wrote:
You are like Cyrano, you think they wont want you because your nose is too big.

He completely fails to see that he is a poet and a fighter and that he is strong and brave and cool as fuck and he totally fails to see it because all he sees is his fucking nose.

Nobody gives a shit about your nose. [/quote]

I can’t really analyze your anecdote, since I don’t know anything about you other than what I read here. But I do see that you seem to be ticking the boxes: showing that you have experience/knowledge outside of her scope, hearkening back to childhood experiences, taking her on an emotional journey, etc. Fine, but those are skills and traits that are, again, weighed and measured in the marketplace.

The people I know in my personal and professional life are all fairly well educated and intelligent, and they are surrounded by other people who at least identify as educated and intelligent. So that’s just not a viable way to distinguish oneself in that context. Going back to what I said before, it would be a strange trick to leverage that trait in a marketplace that presents so many comparable options.

[quote]orion wrote:
Other than that there are tons of RSD and David de Angelo stuff free on Youube, if that does not make some things fall into place, nothing will. [/quote]

I can honestly say that the only thing David de Angelo /Eben Pagan did for me was help me blow one of the few opportunities I’ve had.

Pro-tip: ā€œcocky and funnyā€ often does not communicate well over email.

[quote]fisch wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]fisch wrote:
I love when these conversations spring up on the boards.

Since PM’s don’t work for me:

Orion, what are some good sources of info for someone who wants to learn and understand more? Like books to read, sites to follow. I’ve read quite a few books already from some of AC’s recommendations, and checked out the seddit site I saw you post some time ago.

I’m pretty much obsessed with learning about this stuff, and have been for a while now. It’s fascinating, and from what I’ve experienced there is a ton of truth in it. Just hard to find a solid source of info from the PUA stuff sometimes, and I’ve read quite a few.[/quote]

If you want to know what I read, its The Rational Male, The Private Man and Dalrock.

A quick google search should find them all.

That however is not strictly Game, but I believe it to be important to understand the society that made game necessary.

Serously, that is what a lot of wannabe PUAs are totally missing out on.

Other than that there are tons of RSD and David de Angelo stuff free on Youube, if that does not make some things fall into place, nothing will. [/quote]

Oh, and read the discussions.

All of them.[/quote]

Cool thanks, I’ve seen and read some RSD and DeAngelo stuff already but a while ago and not much so I’ll check them out. I’ll check out those other 3 too, while I like reading about Game and find useful info from it im also just incredibly interested in human interactions in general and why people act the way we do and how society shaped it.

I assume you mean the discussions on this board?[/quote]

Maybe that too, but I meant on those boards.

There are a lot of commenters without a blog who have valuable insight and one after another bits and pieces will fall into place.

Do me a favor though:

What I would not want to happen is ā€œoooohhh, orion invented book game, he gives them books and then they like himā€¦ā€

That would be missing the point.

I had read some books, she was cool, I wanted to share something I knew would touch her soul.

All those exciting places you need to lead her to, they dont have to be real.

If you read one or books a week, at some point that will be a lot.

If you have watched one or two movies a week, at some point, that will be a lot.

If you have lifted 2-3 times a week, at some point that will be a lot.

Painted one or two pictures a week, maybe you can cook, but if you are 30, 40, I dont know and you have seriously nothing to show for yourself, why should a woman with options consider you.

Thats the whole point, you must be interested in something, preferably more than navel lint…

[quote]nephorm wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Other than that there are tons of RSD and David de Angelo stuff free on Youube, if that does not make some things fall into place, nothing will. [/quote]

I can honestly say that the only thing David de Angelo /Eben Pagan did for me was help me blow one of the few opportunities I’ve had.

Pro-tip: ā€œcocky and funnyā€ often does not communicate well over email.[/quote]

Calibration, calibration.

I dont really know what the vibe of your conversation, but his deep inner game stuff was good.

[quote]nephorm wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
You are like Cyrano, you think they wont want you because your nose is too big.

He completely fails to see that he is a poet and a fighter and that he is strong and brave and cool as fuck and he totally fails to see it because all he sees is his fucking nose.

Nobody gives a shit about your nose. [/quote]

I can’t really analyze your anecdote, since I don’t know anything about you other than what I read here. But I do see that you seem to be ticking the boxes: showing that you have experience/knowledge outside of her scope, hearkening back to childhood experiences, taking her on an emotional journey, etc. Fine, but those are skills and traits that are, again, weighed and measured in the marketplace.

The people I know in my personal and professional life are all fairly well educated and intelligent, and they are surrounded by other people who at least identify as educated and intelligent. So that’s just not a viable way to distinguish oneself in that context. Going back to what I said before, it would be a strange trick to leverage that trait in a marketplace that presents so many comparable options. [/quote]

NOOOOOOOOOO…

I was utterly clueless…

She was not just beautiful, she was nice, she was kind, she had a brain and she had not read Poo the Bear!!!

I just wanted her to read the book, that was all.

Now you can analyze that all you want, and yes, I would agree, but you need to get back to that place with the only difference that you know that what you have to share is of equal value than her tight buttocks.

Are you going to tell me that you have nothing to share, thing that moved you, intrigued you, felt good, blew you mind?

Let it out!