Biden 2021 - A Mediocre Middle Ground

Not all of that is authoritarian. Not all of that is even true. You’re backing your point up with narratives and mischaracterizations.

He’s out of office with no, repeat no laws, EOs or authoritarian policies left in his wake. No power grabs were executed beyond the claims of election fraud, which is at this point a decades long tradition in American politics.

We can “but Trump” all day if you want, but my concern lies with making sure America doesn’t follow Australia’s leadership to the bottom.

For all of his faults, Trump didn’t do that.

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We said the same about Obama and might say the same after Biden.

Anyway:

Nothing in that article is an authoritarian power grab or an infringement on the rights of Americans.

Meanwhile, aside from using plain English to openly explain the incoming strong arming by the Federal Government, we’ve also got HR 1 in play to enshrine election theft and private media censoring on behalf of Democrats, recently adding a sitting US Senator to the ban list.

Don’t forget the top down war on cops and the anti cop bill that just passed the house.

Don’t forget the extant suspension of property rights.

And we can’t forget about the racist lie at the center of Democrat policy and rhetoric. The white supremacists are still out there, sure to step out of the shadows and act. Any day now.

I know, I know. But Trump!

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When I read your two quotes what do I see? Moving the goalposts.

Nothing in either article backs up your point. Nothing in there is remotely on par with the unprecedented Biden administration actions.

Has it ever occurred to you that you’re not very good at this? Even when you outsource your thinking to NPR you can’t make a coherent case.

Even if you could make the case that Trump was an authoritarian, so what?

Gee, I don’t agree with these Biden policies or laws, but Trump was bad too I guess. I should probably shut up and vote Democrat.

This is why you don’t get invited to the cool kids conversations.

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“Rolled back” rules=authoritarian?

I’d say the time he endorsed sexual assault by saying “grab ‘em by the pussy” in a locker room. It was like Wilson, FDR, Mao, and Stalin combined forces within his mind and exited his mouth.

Twojar claims often how Trump came and went, leaving nothing in his wake. That’s false. You know it’s false as well.

No, it refutes yours. Trump did not just come and go as you claim. It’s funny how you want to re-elect him even though he did nothing of any lasting value. That would make a great campaign slogan: I did nothing the first time so let me do that again.

Well, rolled back rules are actually less than nothing. When the trash truck comes and dumps the garbage in my can, I don’t point at the void and talk about what was left by the trash truck.

That’s not even logical. And what about the tax cuts?

If it weren’t for straw men, you’d have nobody to argue with. It’s almost as if you’re either mentally or perhaps emotionally incapable of understanding an argument without interpreting it as some illogical extreme so you can argue against the illogical extreme.

I obviously meant no authoritarian laws or EOs. Not no laws or EOs. His administration was actually quite boring and middle of the road conservative at the policy level. The articles you linked back this notion up.

Meanwhile here’s HR 1.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text?r=1

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Tax cuts are also nothing. The PATRIOT Act? That was something. A tax increase would be something.

Sure…if you like to grab pornstars by the pussy. Or something. Bigot.

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If you were smart, you’d note that I wasn’t trying to do that.

Maybe if you took Trump’s balls out of your mouth you could post with more clarity.

And aren’t all laws authoritarian in nature?

So that extra money in your, well not your pockets, is nothing? I see your point.

Not today zecarlo. Enjoy your dim little rabbit hole of semantic quibbling with someone else.

Our two largest cities are presently implementing unprecedented authoritarian policies. I’m sure you can find a way to divert that fact to Trump, but you’ll have to do it without me today.

The patriot act was authoritarian…which makes Bush a terrible president imo

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I think that’s what he was getting at. Speaking for myself, I opposed it then and I oppose it now.

Authoritarianism ALWAYS comes wrapped in fear. Nothing on this planet is more dangerous than a group of scared humans.

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