Biden 2021 - A Mediocre Middle Ground

[SkyzykS]

@NotYou

And now we have a candidate leading in the poles

No cause for alarm about the business dealings of the guy currently in office?
interesting.

[NotYou]

@Silyak

@NotYou

High crimes and misdemeanors no longer apply. POTUS is immune.

Impeachment is the bark, the legal system was the bite. An impeached POTUS removed from power for high crimes and misdemeanors feared going to jail… real repercussions.

I suppose that until recently the question had never been decided by the SCOTUS. But my understanding of impeachment (and this goes back to the semen-stained dress days) was always that after impeachment that was the end. The ability to try an impeached and removed president in the legal system was always questionable. The ability to try and impeached and acquitted president even more so.

And you haven’t answered why you think that giving oversight power to the courts is the solution. If you think the SCOTUS got this wrong, why do you want to give this power the courts when they are clearly getting things wrong?

Ford pardoned Nixon. Jailtime was very much in his future. Jail and even execution (in extreme cases) was absolutely on the table for a former president convicted of crimes while in office. Not anymore, as long as it was an “official act”… As claimed by POTUS.

Oversight that currently sucks is better than no oversight. Oversight that can and will change for the better over the years is better than oversight that currently sucks.

[NotYou]

Not applicable. That was before he was POTUS. He was and still is open to prosecution for any illegal actions that may have occured there.

[SkyzykS]

@fitafter40

Its been this way since George Washington

And theres the big boogeyman that isn’t actually a boogey man.

Nothing changed. They just started to legally delineate it.

[SkyzykS]

@NotYou

That was before he was POTUS.

What was?

The nothing that he did or the stuff he didn’t do?

He could officially turn over the united states to China now and nobody could stop him!

Non-sequiter- I need a pearl clutching emogie and a fainting couch one to go with it.

[NotYou]

We are talking about POTUS being empowered and granted near full immunity for actions taken as POTUS.

Try to keep up.

[fitafter40]

He is commiting treason by allowing illegal criminals invading this country that he is REQUIRED to protect

thats just one act of treason sleepy joe is commiting

[SkyzykS]

@NotYou

Try to keep up.

Yeah, ok speedy. When you come correctly with a little more than mainstream media hyperbolic dreck, I’ll be right there with you.

But you can’t pretend to be ahead of the curve And act like Biden isn’t a crooked scumbag at the same time.

Its disingenuous at best.

[fitafter40]

Well, lets see

You are afraid of the guy that did not go after his political opponents with the FBI, CIA, DOJ, COURT SYSTEM and the MEDIA

and you are not afraid of the guy that is currently doing so

we know where you stand

[SkyzykS]

@fitafter40

we know where you stand

Oh, I know. The fucking balls on this guy!

We could house illegals under those motherfuckers!

[NotYou]

@fitafter40

You are afraid of the guy that did not go after his political opponents with the FBI, CIA, DOJ, COURT SYSTEM and the MEDIA

Lol, wut?

Were you living in a cave 2017-2021?

Regardless, why the hell would you want to empower POTUS to do more of that, more aggressively, and remove any oversight that caused restraint?!

[fitafter40]

Who did he go after???

[SkyzykS]

@NotYou

Lol, wut?

@SkyzykS

Its disingenuous at best.

So thats how its gonna be? Ok.

[NotYou]

For starters…

Politicization of the Justice Department - American Oversight

The cognitive dissonance of trumpersshouldnt be surprising at this point… But damn. You really thought trump didn’t use the FBI, doj, or media to go after “enemies” while in office?

Again, why would you want to empower this behavior further, and remove oversight and restraint for any POTUS?

[fitafter40]

Sooooooo, you pick a left bias organization to make your claim

laughable

[NotYou]

So none of the events happened? Got it.

Again, the cognitive dissonance shouldn’t be surprising. Smh.

Can you at least answer my above question about why we would want less oversight of POTUS has abused power historically?

[fitafter40]

Because its the Constitution and that is what the Supreme Court’s interpretation of the Constitution is

Don’t like it, change the Constitution…been that way since the late 1700s

[SkyzykS]

@NotYou

Again, why would you want to empower this behavior further, and remove oversight and restraint for any POTUS?

So you don’t see investigation into what Hillary Clinton did as Sec. Of State and beyond, during an admin (obama) that openly used the IRS and Justice Dept. to attack politixal rivals, “enemies” and members of groups exercising their right to free assembly as legitimate?

Thats Rich, speedy.

[fitafter40]

The investigation against clinton started before the 2016 election…trump wasn’t president yet

[NotYou]

@loppar

Honestly, this is pretty damning for the Democrats - the conservative SCOTUS judges believe them incapable of dictatorship. Now that’s disrespect.

In any other country it would be political suicide (or literal, for that matter) to set up a dictatorship framework while your opponent is still in office.

Here it’s just “hey guys, we know you’re too chickenshit for actual tyranny so we’ll start our preparations six months in advance before our guy comes into power who’ll actually use these powers we’ve arbitrarily assigned hi… I mean the office of POTUS”

You ain’t wrong. Really fucking sad state of affairs.