Biden 2021 - A Mediocre Middle Ground

I don’t disagree at all. I’d probably get along better with Jimmy Carter than any other president alive during my lifetime, but that’s exactly why he wasn’t cut out for the job.

I don’t think Biden is a well-meaning politician at all. I think he’s a corrupt and cynical professional liar who is exactly the type of career politician we need to vote out wherever they may be found, whatever party they may be in, at all levels of elected government.

Hell, we should even vote against their chili at the chilli cook-off, even if it is the best chili. It’s that serious.

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Sad, but true.

Nah, they are prepping for running a different candidate than Joe for the next election. Hillary Clinton would be my guess.

Smart! lol! Give you a hint, not well.

Folks there are stupid questions and sometimes that’s okay, but this is not okay. How biden’s policies and actions directly affect a particular situation as they unfolded on this very forum. Read something other than the government/ MSM narrative.

And let’s flip that question:
How have you gone about determining that these things you mention have been caused by the Trump admin’s policies?

I guarantee you this is a much harder question. Almost nobody’s beef with Trump actually revolved around policy. Which is stupid.

I can’t believe you bothered to source it for him. You know he’s just going to come back with more detailed questions forcing you to do hours of research and still not move his needle one iota.
“Well, the oil companies have 9000 leases they haven’t acted on, why is that biden’s fault?” Or some such non-sense.
See the tactic here? Come out with forceful proclamations when your tribe seems to be winning, ask stupid, seemingly humble questions when they are not.

LOL! I wrote this before I saw this:

Can’t make this shit up. I was going to edit what I said in light of this, but I decided to leave my thoughts raw as they came out.
This is along the lines of “I don’t know what a woman is because I am not a biologist.” So now you have to be an oil and gas expert to prove biden fucked up royally, beyond anything any other president has ever done.

Nice rebuttal!

Uh, do you really believe biden is well meaning? He’s as crooked as they come, he always was. It’s not a secret.
If biden is well meaning, you can find him adjusting policy to fix problems, taking responsibility for his job, not blaming everybody and their mom for his fuck ups, etc. He’s evil dude, pure evil. I see no daylight between him and Putin as people when it comes to evil. I see a lot of daylight between them when it comes to competence and that’s all bad news for us.

That would almost be funny if it weren’t so damn sad. How many times is it her turn. The republicans have so much fodder to just absolutely abuse democrats on the campaign trail. How do you figure the republicans will fuck that up? And how do you figure the democrats are going to spin their massive failures into blaming someone else, or pretending their not problems, or pretending that problems are good and not bad. The democratic party has become pure evil, they lie with impunity and they act only in the interest of gaining and retaining power. Our slightly better alternative, in the republican party has no balls and no will to do anything or fix anything. Happy days indeed!

No, that was a sarcastic comment about how all of the bad outcomes easily traced to government policy get explained away when Democrats set the policy.

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There are many things going on right now that could impact the price at the pump and inflation. IMO, the things from the Biden admin are likely a factor, although likely one of the smaller ones.

The DJIA, and S&P 500 are all up from when Biden took office. It would be just as silly of me to give him all the credit for that as it would be to blame him for high inflation or gas prices.

I haven’t. Other factors can include that, but they are not required to. IMO, other factors of the economy (labor, shortages, lasting impacts from Covid, etc), Ukraine, Russia, are what I am thinking about as the big factors.

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I gotta say, I am a little concerned about the midterms. The republicans are over confident and expecting this red wave. But the purge of political dissent is just getting started, the DNC controls all the messaging apparatuses and they have no fear of lying with reckless abandon. So I am not sure what’s going to happen. I know one side will go to any lengths and depths to get and retain power. And the other side has a bunch of do-nothings with no balls. I am not secure in the outcome and that the situation may flip. I think it’s possible the R’s get the house by a slim margin and the senate remains 50-50. Over confidence this early in the game is never a good sign. Hillary was super confident 8 months out… What’s the temperature in your side of the world?

This is just word salad that means nothing. So it’s nobody’s fault when your guy is in power and fucking it up in spectacular fashion? Even the dems are abandoning, while trying to squeeze every drop of their agenda out of him.
Why don’t you do a little research and find how his policies are casual in the many, many crisis’s we face, like the rest of us do? Because I could write a book about it and I am sure @twojarslave could too, because we research and we see what every side has to say and match them to observable reality.
Step one, get off social media. It’s a fake world that generates real emotions, but it’s not reality. It’s a mind virus that interrupts rational thought with meaningless platitudes and virtue signaling. It was supposed to be for fun, but it became a mechanism to generate false realities.

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No one over here has any clue about American midterms. In the presidential election, the media here praises the virtues of the democrats and were horrified at the Trump victory. Basically the media here just reprints whatever Reuters et al. say when it comes to anything foreign. In matters of foreign policy, Norway doesn’t really have one. Norwegian foreign policy is American foreign policy. Not surprisingly of course, as we rely on you guys for defense.

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So nuance doesn’t mean anything? Whoever is in charge is at fault for everything negative, got it.

LOL, that was my initial ask. Show how his policies are casual. Quantify it a bit, so I can understand if Biden’s policies have made gas go up $0.05 or $2.00. Nobody here has even attempted that.

I didn’t make a claim, I questioned one. I am looking for evidence showing this impact (and understand the extent of it) from Biden’s policies.

I can’t quantify it to the penny, nor is it necessary to do so to connect it Biden policy and rhetoric.

I literally posted one of Biden’s rare moments of clarity where he explicitly campaigned on setting government policies that limit the supply of domestic oil. He seemed quite proud of it, especially signing that executive order as one of his first acts as President.

Let’s go with $1.00 to 1.50 per gallon being attributed directly to the Biden administration’s domestic energy policies. His foreign policy blunders might account for another $.25 to $.50.

Of course, maybe Joe Biden is just a hapless bystander swept up in the currents of history, powerless to set policies that are the opposite of the policies he campaigned on.

So all made up, got it.

@pat is this the type of research I need to do? Pulling stuff out of my ass that fits my agenda?

Why do you say it’s made up? What’s the correct number?

I have no idea, and neither does the original guy who blamed Biden for the gas prices and inflation. His third point was valid, so he should have just left it there.

So you don’t know the correct number, you just know that mine is not correct. You also seem to believe that Joe Biden’s policy of not allowing drilling is not impactful on gas prices. Got it.

Here’s your guy yesterday. Really inspiring stuff.

Here’s his sidekick, eloquently explaining the importance of the passage of time.

Don’t worry though, all of these terrible outcomes unfolding would be much, much worse if Trump was still in office. It is known.

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I did not say that. I said you pulled it out of your ass. You have a chance of being correct, just no way to know if you are or not.

My gut feeling is that gas would be slightly less expensive with Trump.

I believe this increase in price at the pump has many factors to it. If it was just Biden’s US policy, then why are prices outside the US going up so much (in many cases, much more than in the US)? If it is just Biden’s policies, why is inflation increasing so much outside of the US?

Policies matter wherever they are implemented, and a lot of the same shitty policies have been implemented across much of the world. Paying people to not work, closing down businesses by government fiat and mind-boggling levels of government spending inflating the currency.

Policies implemented in the USA also have global effects.

Why is gas higher in California than it is in Texas?

Policy, that’s why.

We are doing less of this under Biden than Trump.

Things aren’t adding up. Reducing the things that cause the high gas prices and inflation under Biden, is increasing gas prices and inflation?

Maybe there is some drama with an oil producing country right now? Maybe I’ll look into that. I heard something about Russia.

That is true.

They also produce oil in Texas. Less cost for transportation of the oil. It is just one factor though.

Do you notice how Democrats can only speak in vague narratives these days when explaining why Democrat policy is never to blame for the bad outcomes that coincide with Democrats setting policy? Probably not, because you seem to support Democrats and the vague narratives they want you to believe.

This is why Indiana republicans are presently to blame for violence in Chicago, where Democrats have had near total power for generations. It can’t be the policies of the people running the place. I mean, they’re Democrats! You know, the good guys!

There’s no oil being pumped anywhere near Maine, but my prices are nowhere near California’s, where a great deal of oil is extracted from the ground. Why? Policy.

There was no war in Ukraine until recently, yet prices have done nothing but climb after Biden enacted his energy policy that was explicitly designed to limit domestic oil production.

Here’s a helpful map. It also points out the decline in US domestic production. Federal policy is massively impactful on our domestic prices, to pretend otherwise requires mental gymnastics and a rejection of basic notions of supply and demand. It seems obvious that the Biden Administration’s explicity-stated policy of limiting the supply of domestic oil production is succeeding.

I think this is true for most politicians.

Let’s be real, it’s mostly not the politicians in this case. It is mostly the residents.

Isn’t that specifically new production? There would be time involved in getting oil from those new areas of production, we likely wouldn’t see that oil yet. So the impact from that policy shouldn’t be felt yet.

Things don’t really seem to change much no matter who is in charge. I haven’t seen the sky falling like @pat. My net worth growth has more than made up for putting more in my tank, and the cost increase of many consumer items (but I try to be as little of a consumer as possible). Life goes on.