Better for the Party: "Many Voices" or "STFU"?

I’m Canadian, does Duke still exist in some capacity? He supposedly I heard renounced the Klan several years ago for politics, but is he back as Wizard?



He took off his gown, cape and hood…and put on a suit and tie. That was the extent of his “renunciation”.

Yes. He is still around…and was overjoyed that Trump was in the White House.

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When I said I am Canadian, it was meant that I am a bit more remote from the US than you people.

Unfortunately I have heard that some Canadian cities I have lived in have chapters. When finding out I sort of start looking at white people I walk past and wonder if, God, is that one of them?

Once I was living in a largely white city and happened to take a walk along one street and noticed that several large, healthy tree branches at some addresses were broken off. I then noticed the side of one house that had spray painted “Fuck off KKK”

Damn unsettling.

The response of Trump and his people…and the GOP as a whole…has been nauseating…

The President is just FRUSTRATED???
What he ACTUALLY meant was…???

Sorry, folks. As you guys were boot-licking…Trump made it VERY clear what he meant at some event he was at.

Let me be clear…I’m not a fan of “The Squad”…but isn’t the President supposed to rise above spouting Nationalistic rhetoric…then doubling down in it?

This all is now going beyond the surreal…

“MAGA” my ass…

Excellent summation. “The Squad” is playing to some non-existent ideal world and the President believes he can say whatever he want without consequence. His PR people have got to be livid by now.

It seems as if no politician has the audacity to rise above the least common denominator rhetoric anymore. I thought we elected these people to be “leaders” not just stir up emotional reactions.

What if… just maybe he wanted to get Pelosi on record defending the four freshman congresswomen who just got done calling her racist.

She slaps them down one week and rides to their defense the next. Also the more attention the far left gets, the more they come to define the Democrat Congress.

If you think of his schtick not as a leader or politician, but as a culture warrior his actions make more sense.

He saw that 50+% of Americans don’t lean left and then that the marxists had done the “slow march through the institutions” to where media, academia, Hollywood etc… all lean really far left. He capitalized on the annoyance that must create. He’s going to beat that horse to death, win or lose.

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A President was supposed to have been elected to:

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

Doubt Trump is aware enough to take advantage of a political opponent in such a way, but people are great at conflating issues and confusing themselves now. With Pelosi having a row with them, and Trump firing shots at them- it almost looks like Trump and Pelosi are working together against them- which makes Pelosi look bad. Big bad orange man type bad. At least to the people prone to emotional reaction and lacking the ability to parse out the separate issues and positions.

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Culture warrior???

Trump is a privileged, narcissistic, liberal Democrat from New York who likes young girls.

Now…if you say that he used the Cultural Divides in this Country to his advantage, propelling him to the Highest Political office in the Land?

Then I’m with you.


I know what his job is supposed to be - that was my point. He and Congress (as two distinct branches of government) are so focused on trying to prove who the worse “bad guy” is that they aren’t making any progress on actually running the country. We (the United States) haven’t had an approved budget in years because of all the fighting.

In the age of social media, it is more important to secure their political job by riling up emotion that it is to actually do their job - no one cares anymore if they do their job or not - it’s all about who can I hate least to elect.

…and who can stick it to the “other side” the hardest.

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Yes that exactly right. That’s racist. The word ‘racist’ is thrown around so willy-nilly, I just don’t even pay attention anymore.
I have been told to go back where I came from a few times in my life. It wasn’t because they were racist it’s because they hated me.

Edit: And I won’t even get mad that you called me a spic… :wink:

I agree. It was stupid. They are already tearing each other apart, why get in the way?
I am personally just sick of walking on eggshells for fear of being labeled racist.

Yes exactly. Hence the word “schtick”.

This isn’t something I even remotely worry about. Now if you speak like Trump has with a long history of either racist or stuff that can be considered racist that may be a different story.

But it’s not something I ever worry about in the least bit. But I think that’s what makes someone an adult. Someone who understands that words have power and you should be careful how you choose them. Especially in public places. Here or with my friends and family I don’t think about it much. When I’m speaking to a roomful of strangers? (As I often do in my job) Yes big time. That’s a lesson Trump will never learn. And for some reason people celebrate it.

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Why did they hate you? Telling someone to go back where they came from takes a specific kind of hate (racism, xenophobia, nationalism, etc.).

Trump is an old man with no filter who lacks current cultural and societal awareness. He’s the old uncle who you warn guests about when they come over for Thanksgiving. He’ll refer to Orientals and THE blacks.

He also loves getting validation, from anyone, probably because his father was an even bigger prick than he is. It’s why he likes to be seen as a strong man, an alpha. But his actions come off as being more teen girl than John Wayne.

Combine those two things in one person and give him access to social media and you have Trump.

Indeed. Most of the time where I’ve come across that term whether it’s tv and movies, internet recorded videos, real life it’s full of venom. It’s much more than a typical insult directed at someone.

Trump out smarted all of us. While we were thinking how dumb it was to say what he did, he moved the Democratic party to the radical left. Pelosi was trying to shut these 4 nimrods up, Trump made sure not only that they stay in the news, he moved the entire Democratic party to the radical left by forcing the moderates to the ‘squads’ defense knowing most people hate them. Making them look like the face and future of the democratic party, moving it to the radical left was genius. Now the democrats are AOC’s party and most people hate her…
Mean while he removed asylum status from all central american countries and nobody even noticed.
Even I was fooled. This was deliberate sabotage of the democrats while implementing a policy they don’t even realized happened.
Check mate… He won and we all fell for it… Kudos to Trump. He even got me fooled.

The democrats now belong to the radical left and they are not very electable to most of the country.

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