Betrayal: The Autoimmune Solution They're Not Telling You

A recent review of 23 trials(1,255,mice?) concludes there is evidence that bone marrow MSC’s have a beneficial clinical effect in the long term.

Mesenchymal stem cell transplantation modulates neuroinflammation in focal cerebral ischemia :contribution of fractalkine and IL-5. Neurobiol Dis. 2011;41(3):717-724.dol:10.1016/j.nbd.2010.12.009

31 clinical trials (1,521 participants, mice?) reports a significant reduction in mortality and hospitalization, as well as an improvement in quality of life.

Umbilical cord mesenchymal stem cell transplantation in severe and refractory systemic lupus erythematosus. Arthritis Rheum. 2010;62(8):2467-75.dol: 10.1002/art.27548

Another non-answer from the losing side. This is too easy.

And where are all the clinical trials that justified the legalization of medical cannabis?

This is a good one, I’m putting this one in my Zep reply folder. Thanks old chap.

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Zep tactic #2: When in doubt, pivot to something completely different.

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So when you have no answer, change the subject. Nice. The policies supported by most of the morons that post on this forum would never have allowed medicinal cannabis to be legalized. Consequently making the public forced to take the garbae drugs offered by Big Pharma and making them suffer. Wow what a great “healthcare” system. So much freedom, limiting choice. Something to be very proud of. It’s a wonder why all those other countries that have socialized medicine aren’t clamoring to adopt a healthcare system like ours, so they can expand freedom.

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Zep: Posts a study related to stem cells

USMC: The study you posted said the conclusions merit a definitive clinical evaluation.

Zep: Another nonsensical answer.

USMC: You posted a study that clearly says it merits definitive clinical evaluation.

Zep: Where are the clinical trials that justified the legalization of medical cannabis.

USMC (mind literally explodes): When in doubt, pivot to something completely different.

Zep: So when you have no answers, change the subject. Nice.

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Sure they would have. Most of the “morons” posting here support the legalization of Marijuana for recreational use. ALL ANYONE WANTS IS FOR MARIJUANA TO BE VETTED AS A TREATMENT OPTION. SAME THING WITH STEM CELLS.

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No one is forced to take anything. Flip explained to you how people refuse “garbage” drugs all the time.

You mean all the ones with fucking castles littering their landscape?

This is you: :clown_face:

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What blows my mind, really, is he says shit like this:

but advocates for a socialized (single payer) system. What does he expect would happen? How is that expanding choice?

I know, man. I know… It’s mind-boggling. His response will just be some talking point about a government by and for the people, not the elites. Of course, he will fail to account for the fact that the evil elite cabal would still run things under his fantastical vision.

It’s hard to blame him, he has obviously bought Marx hook line and sinker.

Nah, it’ll be an evil elite cabal that he happens to agree with (that’ll suppress the choices exercised by others he happens to disagree with, thus approves of the suppression).

But, hey, freedom amiright?

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I posted plenty of studies. Some of them already done on humans. Some people have already had this therapy done with very positive results. Much better than any clinical trial as they are getting the help they need.

Clinical trials, whether on stem cells OR cannabis are both germane to the point. However, you need someone to hold your hand to make this connection as you claim it is moving the goal post. What an idiot.

ALL ANYONE WANTS IS FOR MARIJUANA TO BE VETTED AS A TREATMENT OPTION. SAME THING WITH STEM CELLS. So you contradict yourself by claiming the above. Medicinal cannabis would not be available as an option as the requisite clinical trials have not been done. Therefore it shouldn’t be an option.

Maybe people aren’t forced to take Big Pharma’s treatments but they wouldn’t have the choice for medicinal cannabis if it went strictly by the policies most morons on here support. So they would have to suffer. How you do not understand this is beyond me. So keep splitting hairs and hope for plausible deniability as it is all you have.

You mean all the ones with fucking castles littering their landscape? Typical, as you have no real answer.

As with most things in life, and something most get wrong, especially with women, it’s not about quantity, it’s about QUALITY

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More people covered. Less cost, better outcomes. How evil. And is single-payer a socialized system, where the care is given out by doctors in the private sector? Hopefully when this comes to pass an option for jerkoffs like you who want to pay more and get less will be available.

2 out of 3, homie. 2 out of 3. You can have more people covered, with better outcomes. The costs will be higher.

You can have more people covered at less cost, the outcomes will not be better (than what though???)

You can have better outcomes at a lower cost, but not everyone will be “covered” (w/e that means).

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Of course you have no idea what you are talking about. The elite will not run the government any longer. This is the point, retard! You fail to account for a popular uprising(Sanders popularity). Which is going on right underneath your nose but you won’t recognize it because it deletes your ideology and that is what is important to you. Evidence has no effect on your “beliefs”. Trickle-down economics have seduced you. Propaganda has formed your beliefs.

Please give an example. What do you believe has been going on in this country for the last few decades?

Proof? Or just beliefs?

So positive human experiences are not QUALITY?

So posting “plenty of studies” equates to positive human experiences eh?

I think you completely miss the point so let me dumb it down for you - most of the studies you post are not quality studies. But you do post A LOT of them … hence quantity =/= quality.

I know this is difficult for you to grasp

wrt?? healthcare? slow take over by government of the healthcare industry via increasingly excessive regulations. You should be celebrating in the fuckin’ streets you derelict

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Because people misuses it like all of the grieving testimonials in your affiliate links. Its not as simple as administering some “oils” and hoping for the best.

On the other hand:

And since you ignore everything, I should also add that Yes, I do have an ownership stake in that company and its affiliates.

And yes, I do have a profit motive. :smile:

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