Pinhead - Hellraiser
Mcauley Culkin - The Good Son
Tim Roth - in Rob Roy
Alan Rickman - Die Hard
Kathy Bates - Misery
Kevin Spacey - Seven
Alicia Silverstone - The Crush
Denzel Washington - Training Day
Tom Cruise - Collateral
Louise Fletcher as Nurse Ratched
regarding HARD CANDY and Ellen Page, I loved that movie, but I don’t think she was the villian. She was like the Punisher.
[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
^^Gerard Butler’s character in Law Abiding Citizen was hardly a villain. He did what he felt needed to be done. Since the justice system failed him and his family, he would mete out revenge on all parties involved. I think it’s what a lot of people would do, if they had the means. [/quote]
I agree, but I wasn’t calling the char. a villain I was responding to the coment about De Niro’s character in Heat. But with Butler’s character its hard to even call him the “Bad Guy” in that film. Either way it is a great great character.
“He tasks me. He tasks me and I shall have him! I’ll chase him 'round the moons of Nibia and 'round the Antares Maelstrom and 'round Perdition’s flames before I give him up!”
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
“He tasks me. He tasks me and I shall have him! I’ll chase him 'round the moons of Nibia and 'round the Antares Maelstrom and 'round Perdition’s flames before I give him up!”
I think I’m too morally gray to call them villains. They are all great antagonists.
Kurgan: The man was raised in a cold blooded and tough environment. And when he died, he become an immortal and had to fight for the prize. He used dirty tactics, but was honorable at times.
Vincent: The man is a contract killer, but he’s only doing his job. He has a certain skill set, some people need that skill, and Vincent needs to get paid. If not for that fat guy falling on Jamie Foxx’s cab, Vincent would have probably let him go with no problems.
My pick for a villain:
Rutger Hauer in the Hitcher. There’s no explanation as to why he did what he did.
Wol, I’ll give you those two. And Hauer was pretty damn good in The Hitcher. Here are some more to add to the list:
Chiwetel Ejiofor in 4 Brothers (Victor Sweets)
Damien Thorne of The Omen
The Tall Man in Phantasm
Tony Todd in Candyman (Daniel Robitaille/Candyman)
Christopher Walken in The Prophecy (Gabriel)
The toddler in Pet Cemetary
Blaire Underwood in Just Cause (Bobby Earl)
Julian Sands in Warlock
Tim Curry in It
I agree, Fiennes from Shindler’s list was on my list.
I think it is so effective because Amon Göth (the Fiennes character) was a real guy, really did what he did in the movie, and worse.
Moreover, akin to the Rutger Hauer character in the 1986 version of the Hitcher, no one really understood why Goth did what he did — he apparently had a reasonable home life and had close Jewish friends during his childhood.
FWIW, the real Amon Göth was captured by the allies and, story has it a Jewish captain was put in charge of his hanging. Whether true or not, the rope was “accidently” too short not once, but twice, so he got hung, didn’t die (just choked) — they did it again — didn’t die (gaggin, vomiting), then did it a third time for real.
The hanging is on youtube, if inclined. I watch it to put me in a good mood.
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
I second Cruella de Vil. She wanted to make puppies into clothing!
PS- Beast, that is a sweet avatar. I miss the original Godzilla movies…[/quote]
Who are you tellin!?! My project while in Afghanistan is to purchase every last Godzilla movie on DVD. The US version is definitely not on that list.[/quote]
I got Godzilla 1985 when I was 5 or 6. I cried my eyes out when he fell into the volcano. That image has stuck with me and scarred me for life…
[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
Wol, I’ll give you those two. And Hauer was pretty damn good in The Hitcher. Here are some more to add to the list:
Chiwetel Ejiofor in 4 Brothers (Victor Sweets)
Damien Thorne of The Omen
The Tall Man in Phantasm
Tony Todd in Candyman (Daniel Robitaille/Candyman)
Christopher Walken in The Prophecy (Gabriel)
The toddler in Pet Cemetary
Blaire Underwood in Just Cause (Bobby Earl)
Julian Sands in Warlock
Tim Curry in It
I’ve got plenty more to add…[/quote]
I never saw 4 brothers
I never saw the Omen
Tony Todd as Candyman: A innocent black man who had his arm severed and was tortured by redneck white people. Yeah, he’s not a villain in my book. He’s a man who deserves his revenge.
Christopher Walken as Gabriel: He hates humans because they wasted what God gave them and he’s fighting a war in heaven that will decide the fate of mankind. If he wins, he’ll punish the humans. I think he’s just doing his job. Granted, he is jealous of the humans because God favors them.
I never finished watching Warlock
Tim Curry in IT: I can’t defend that mother fucker. He’s an evil space alien that fed on children and their fears. Fuck him!
[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
Wol, I’ll give you those two. And Hauer was pretty damn good in The Hitcher. Here are some more to add to the list:
Chiwetel Ejiofor in 4 Brothers (Victor Sweets)
Damien Thorne of The Omen
The Tall Man in Phantasm
Tony Todd in Candyman (Daniel Robitaille/Candyman)
Christopher Walken in The Prophecy (Gabriel)
The toddler in Pet Cemetary
Blaire Underwood in Just Cause (Bobby Earl)
Julian Sands in Warlock
Tim Curry in It
I’ve got plenty more to add…[/quote]
I never saw 4 brothers
I never saw the Omen
Tony Todd as Candyman: A innocent black man who had his arm severed and was tortured by redneck white people. Yeah, he’s not a villain in my book. He’s a man who deserves his revenge.
Christopher Walken as Gabriel: He hates humans because they wasted what God gave them and he’s fighting a war in heaven that will decide the fate of mankind. If he wins, he’ll punish the humans. I think he’s just doing his job. Granted, he is jealous of the humans because God favors them.
I never finished watching Warlock
Tim Curry in IT: I can’t defend that mother fucker. He’s an evil space alien that fed on children and their fears. Fuck him!
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Wol…you keep disappointing me. Go see 4 Brothers. Go see The Omen. As for your opinions…Gabriel was, in fact, evil. Even Lucifer thought so. He validated this by dragging him to hell. Candyman didn’t exact revenge. He just killed people. People who said his name in the mirror were promptly murdered. They had nothing to do with him getting his hand chopped off, and stung to death by bees. He was evil. I’d like to see your list. Make it happen.
Well actually you may not have seen the original 1954 Japanese movie. Most folks have only seen the 1956 Raymond Burr Godzilla movie - completely different movie. The original japanese movie was inspired by a true story regarding a japanese fishing boat being to close to a US atomic test. The crew was exposed to radioactive fallout and the captain died of radiation sickness. The US tried to hush it up, but when they paid off the Widow of the boat captain with only $4,000, there were riots in the streets. Remember, the US had been occupying Japan after the war. Tempers were running a little hot. It was in this context that TOHO studios filmed ‘Gojira’, Japan’s first monster movie.
If you have not seen the original Japanese version, and you’re a fan, you need to watch it; it sets the basis for everything. Then watch the Raymond Burr version - the US watered it down and took out a lot of the stock footage of the devistation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki that was in the japanese version.
You know there are 28 godzilla movies (most have an americanized version). It is the longest running movie franchise in history - but you don’t see Toho winning an academy award. At least Godzilla got his star on the walk of fame.
The 1998 abomination was not even a godzilla movie - and I loved how they had Godzilla wipe out the CGI version in ‘Final Wars’.
Your avatar is from that movie (2004). Supposedly the last Godzilla movie Toho will make.
I have all 28.
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
I second Cruella de Vil. She wanted to make puppies into clothing!
PS- Beast, that is a sweet avatar. I miss the original Godzilla movies…[/quote]
Who are you tellin!?! My project while in Afghanistan is to purchase every last Godzilla movie on DVD. The US version is definitely not on that list.[/quote]
I got Godzilla 1985 when I was 5 or 6. I cried my eyes out when he fell into the volcano. That image has stuck with me and scarred me for life…[/quote]