Yeah, I’d expend the option of dialing in you nutrition and making better food choices than SARMS, testosterone dosages, ADHD medication, or even intermittent fasting.
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You might die if you were to attempt this, probably due to fatal hypoxemia/respiratory distress
Sublingual dosing of what? I’m unclear which substance we’re on now.
test. I read a small sublingual dose can boost levels a lot in the short term.
I suppose you could do this with other substances.
I am assuming some c17α-a, but he has not mentioned any anabolic at all from what I can see?
Nevermind… do you plan on putting test cyp under your tongue @st_t?
Look, I’m not trying to be a dick, so take this in the spirit it’s intended. The answer to your question is yes, taking testosterone will in fact increase your testosterone levels. If it didn’t then none of us would be jabbing ourselves with needles multiple times a week. The basic function of exogenous testosterone is to replace natural testosterone, hence the reason you take more than your body is making. There’s no reason to take a dose that puts you lower than your existing production.
The only safe oral version of testosterone is test u, made in special caps that are meant for (in some cases) sublingual administration. The oral bioavailability of testosterone is extremely low so the dose looks extremely high on a mg basis. I believe there’s one popular one overseas that is 40mg per cap? So you’d take two a day, maybe? I don’t know for sure, so don’t rely on that assessment.
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One study found that a cyclodextrin complex containing 10 mg of testosterone delivered sublingually raised testosterone levels by 900% over baseline, with a 485% elevation at the two hour point. In contrast, even 200 mg of oral testosterone only raises levels by around 500% at the peak.
I’m wondering how much a supplemental dose before a workout would help.
But where would you get sublingual T (testosterone cyclodextrin)?
Maybe I missed something…
I’m sure it would be similar to taking any other steroid pwo. Dianabol an hour before you lift is quite something. The problem with oral administration is half-life. I don’t know how long oral testosterone lasts, but it’s not terribly effective if it’s only for a few hours at a time (unless you’re constantly dosing). You’d have a great lifting session, no doubt, but that’s not what builds muscle. You need it the next day to help you recover. There’s a reason esterified preparations are the norm.
Okay, so it could make workouts better. I’m not sure how dangerous such doses are. You would still want real steroid levels later.
I mean this stuff exists and is used by some guys. The difference is they don’t use oral testosterone, they use TNE (testosterone no ester) as a pwo. One shot of Xmg 30 minutes before the gym and they’re good to go. But it’s a very temporary boost. It’s also popular in the world of porn. Viagra + TNE is not an uncommon pre-shoot combo for guys who do multiple scenes a day.
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I maybe am the one who got this wrong but I think @st_t is not talking about exclusively using sublingual T, but in conjunction with a cycle. Like you describe with some powerlifters (I also heard of MMA fighters using TNE exclusively on fight night) who cycle but then on meet day go for TNE.
I think if OP runs a cycle in conjunction with pre workout TNE it could boost workout effectiveness. I have no clue how much.
I’d be interested to hear.
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That’s what I thought too, and something I wanted to try with Andriol (or equivalent), just to see if I got a big workout boost along with my TRT
I’d think injectable prostaglandin E1 and/or trimix would fare pornstars better than TNE + Viagra. If I stand corrected with the aforementioned meds (first two) one wouldn’t need to even be aroused in order to maintain an erection. I suppose Priapism is a concern… But ehhh
I think Trimix comes with its own issues. Plus TNE and Viagra are cheap and plentiful. But yes, I’ve heard stories of Trimix being used as well.
I asked my doc for a trial of trimix because I wanted to be a pornstar one night while drunk and he said no. Said it would be dangerous 
. Such a buzz kill
Every time I have been going for a pr lately, I’ve used tbol the day before and day of the lift with great success. Tooting my own horn here, but hit a 600 lb deadlift yesterday. No impact to e2 is nice as well. On trt for others wondering.
smart.
Maybe something with fewer side effects from a single dose.
Tbol or anavar are what I would look at. I didn’t like anavar much (didn’t notice strength as much), but could have been faked or under dosed.
I don’t think you will find something that compares when considering risk and reward (especially if only taking them for pr attempts, long term is a different story). Those two orals are lower on the side effect end of things. Perhaps dbol or drol, but those are much harsher. It’s wither the reward is enough? Test ace or suspension would work too, but IMO if only using it sporadically those orals would be about as safe, and likely better for strength. Pre workout would be up there for performance improvement as well.
The idea came to me from Lance Armstrong talking about taking Andriol mixed with olive oil in his mouth at the starting line of races.