No, the cause was unexplained. I had high TT at age 13 (1057ng/dl) hence the premature fusion of my ephysial plates. Over the next few years (after being put on anastrazole at age 14 1mg/day for a few years) I developed chronic pain and a variety of ailments, after going off my T dropped to 430-400-290-260 and then at the lowest test around 120ng/dl, numbers didn’t recover, there was no known cause, and after in depth exploration one couldn’t be found. Secondary sexual characteristics began to recede, muscle mass dropped exponentially etc. Took about 1.5 years of having low T before I was put on (fair enough, I was very young)
Interestingly after 6 months on T, my FSH and LH came back in range hinting at a primary issue
No, I could theoretically try, however not at this time given it’s near end of year exams. I certainly don’t need to deal with the sluggishness, lethargy and lack of energy associated with shutdown.
I’ve also been told via my endocrinologist that I’ll need to be on for life.
IM not saying it would work, but you never know. If you did the restart correctly, you should feel good. At least on the HCG portion.
We actually combine the CJC IPAM with HCG when doing restarts and we get a much better result.
CONCLUSIONS
Sustained reversal of normosmic idiopathic hypogonadotropic hypogonadism and the Kallmann syndrome was noted after discontinuation of treatment in about 10% of patients with either absent or partial puberty. Therefore, brief discontinuation of hormonal therapy to assess reversibility of hypogonadotropic hypogonadism is reasonable.
@unreal24278 thanks for the warning. I will watch my dose. All I know right now is it gives me a lot of endurance with no bad sides that I an detect. Is there something specific I should look out for? You know you and I are at the end of the TRT spectrum me being 67 next month and you just turning 18? It is fascinating to me just how these drugs react differently based on age.
That is awesome man. I know another guy like you, I believe he is 71. Been a few years since I have talked to him, he literally looks 40-50. He is probably still working out on the beach in CA.
Maybe I’ll try, at the moment I have no reason to though. I’ll ask my doctor about it (to see if it’s a possibility), at the moment as I’ve previously said I’ve been told lifelong therapy is what I’ll require, since starting TRT my life has turned around completely, I don’t think it’d be particularly healthy to cease use now.
This is extremely true, it took a while for me to find my doctor (of who is one of the few extremely knowledgable docs here in Aus who specialises in testosterone deficiency and matters relating to male andrology). The only reason I found this doctor is due to the fact I managed to find someone who had been in a similar predicament and was also in the medical field and thus I managed to get a recommendation which led to a referral, I got very lucky otherwise I’d probably either still be hypogonadal or have left to the black market for self treatment (would not have been a great idea)
My TRT dose is 150mg/wk, gets me to mid-high range and has me feeling great, prior to TRT I was developing insulin resistance, now my glucose tolerance is perfect!
100% agreed. I think those two are actually way more alike than either of them realize! Lol
I love that both of those guys are passionate, and both take a hard stance on what they believe. I enjoy the debating back and forth, but I think that the level that these guys take it to is more akin to two starving dogs fighting over a steak at times. Lol
Both of them are obviously intelligent and have passion for helping people, and there is not one person on here that doesn’t get caught up in some form of emotion sometimes, especially when we feel like our very character is being attacked. I get that.
The only difference is that these two got to a point in this thread where that became the primary focus. The emotional dick measuring thing really put a dark shroud over what could have otherwise been a very informative discussion. That is a shame.
I hope they kissed and made up. Not sure where this thread actually ended up, or if it has even landed yet…
I tried to keep up but it got to where every time I would check the forum, there were another 50-100 posts in this thread! I just don’t have time to read all that! Lol
At the end of the day, it’s the assumptions being made that I find particularly annoying. @increasemyt has assumed I have issues with my kidneys, BPH, I’m dehydrated, etc. etc. None of them could be further from reality. All these assumptions in regards to my health yet the guy has never met me.
Here’s what I find hilarious:
I’m just shy of six feet, 185lbs. I ran 8km an hour before bed and that’s why I was so thirsty, by the way. Todd is 6’4" 290lbs!!! If I was to place a random $10k bet on who was healthier, I’d put it on me 10 times out of 10.
The assumptions he makes across the board, with everyone, is just funny. I’m sorry, it is. “Oh, you definitely have xyz ailment”. Come on man. You cannot make these assumptions. You can ask the person why they think they have whatever issue they have and offer some examples of things that could cause it. But to state things like I have BPH when I specifically stated I drank a ton of water before bed, because I was thirsty, because I went for a run, and that I usually sleep through the night, is just amateur hour. Don’t make assumptions. Get the facts first.
