BTW. You are a hyper secreter.
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You just said you have more experience than any Dr that I know. And then you said there are only five Drs in the world who have more than you. Those were your exact words.
I donât have a âtroughâ because I do daily shots. My free T is 28 ng/dL. My bloods look great. 250mg a week. 36mg a day injections. Yes, Iâm a hyper excretor which is why I need a much higher dose than most men. 200mg a week was doing nothing for me.
I said there are about a handful of doctors out there that have been involved with TRT longer. Thats what I said.
Yea no shit!!! We already covered this!!
Now I want you to think about something. What does a hyper secreter mean?
LOL
You walked RIGHT into that one!
You said five in the world.
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I donât want to wait for the back and forth banter to get to the answer.
Serious question - can you elaborate how you knew from his labs he was a hyper secreter, what that means and if there and any negatives to being one?
I eat right, sleep, work out hard, lost 15kg, take supplements, yes I have some more body fat to loose but how much I can do?
Out of curiosity have you addressed that PSA? Not saying itâs the T but still enough out of range to address.
I am going to let @dbossa answer since he seems to know he is one, admittedly.
I said half a grain is very little for someone who has such a low free t3 yes. I didnât say every man needs to start at a high dose.
Again you are misrepresenting my suggestions.
When a man has 2.5 free t3 of a range that goes no up to 5, its common thyroid dosing logic tnG half a grain will not be sufficient.
I was at 4.2 and needed two grains am and Pm. I tried 1 grain am and Pm and I was still fatigued and sleeping midday.
Also, jsut becusse the label says start at 30
Does not mean they have good suggestions. We see cypionate boxes say give 200mg every other week.
@increasemyt I didnât walk into shit.
I increased my dose until my symptoms resolved. That number, for me, was 250mg a week.
Everyone else does the same for whatever number works for them. We donât do HCG or AI. None of us do. My bloods look good, donât they? My PSA is a tad on the high side, agreed. Dr Serrano looked at everything and said heâd like to see it lower the next time.
The transscrotal cream has less of an effect on the prostate. When I switch to that, which Iâll do shortly, PSA should fall.
You guys simply want to achieve a number on a lab and thatâs there you fail. I want to find out what is the minimum amount required a man needs to take to resolve his symptoms. Whatever that amount is. This where you demonstrate the fact that you have not evolved based on what the current literature demonstrates.
Plus, youâre a fake and a fraud who canât prove his own existence. No matter how many times I make this statement you avoid it. Youâve avoided it at least ten times. Credibility = zero.
Just admit that youâve lost. Just admit it. Or can you? I can admit when I lose an exchange. When my answer was insufficient. You simply donât have it in you to say, âYou know what? Youâre right. I canât prove it.â
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Go to google and type in the phrase âtestostorone levels are dripping in men over decadesâ. You will find .gov sites and medical + news outlets reporting on this issue. Including a Harvard article. Itâs happening.
Also question the current labs and ranges. They were 1250 not long ago now 900? Why are lab companies dropping the ranges is my question. Especially if itâs based on a healthy population of men.
I do not want to be held to a new range that was 25% higher not long ago.
Hope that helps friend. Itâs disheartning to say the least.
What does mean to âhyper secreteâ your testosterone? How is testosterone expelled from the body?
This all goes back to a very basic question I asked you a long time ago in this thread.
âHave you ever stopped to think, that you need so much cause you took so muchâ?
Are there any negatives to being a âhyper-secreterâ? Symptoms?
I did a podcast on the very subject. This is all research that Scott and Keith are doing.
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Im not watching the podcast we are trying to have a physiological conversation here about a very specific subject.
Just please, explain to us in short, what it means to be a âhyper-secreterâ?
@increasemyt the correct term would be âhyper metabolizerâ. I burn through the stuff faster than most men for reasons I have not figured out yet.
âHave you ever stopped to think, that you need so much cause you took so muchâ?
What are you? A moron? I started with 100mg weekly. Then 140mg. Then 170mg. Then 200mg. Then 220mg. Then 250mg. This was done over YEARS. Only once I hit 250mg did my symptoms vanish and theyâve stayed gone since.
Why is this so complicated for you to understand? Youâre in the STONE AGES for someone who has been doing this for ten years. How many times do I have to explain this to you?
You burn it? Where does it go? Just vanishes? No excrement?
Google or YouTube dr crissler and shbg. A tad bit frightening you the expert has never heard of this.
@increasemyt it gets metabolized you fucking idiot. Youâre trying to challenge me from the bottom of the toilet bowl with zero credibility. If you canât prove your existence and claim you heal thousands of people, youâre a fucking delusional idiot.