There was a pretty good thread going on here at TNation that talked about the higher trough from frequent dosing causing a high E2 that the spike from fewer shots a week.
My google-fu is failing me can’t finds it.
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It’s simple and you don’t want to hear it so stick to your bro science and I’ll keep repeating the simplicty. Trying to help and guide . Enjoy I’ll continue my repetitive posts.
Daily injections does raise E2 and we all know that means you only have 6 more days to live before your breasts get so big they explode your internal organs. That’s why I only inject every other month and I inject arimidex intravenously every 3 hours. I’m about to get my lab results so I’ll let you know how it goes.
Uh ohh… Someone please tell my mother I love her.
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Sounds like you could use a dose of adex 
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#E2=22crew fah life brah!
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You’re happy…that’s good.
Yeah I’m just playing. I definitely think that just like every part of our bodies differ from everyone else’s so to would what it would take to make them optimal. I personally don’t work well with AI’s but I know for a fact they are a game changer for others. The worse thing we can do is make this shit sound like what works for me is going to work for you. That’s why I love the threads with dbossa vs whoever so you can see how two different people have two opposite ways that work for them.
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I remember you started trying SQ injections. Do you think your high E2 was caused by switching from IM to SQ? I tried SQ for a few weeks and have decided to go back to IM, I felt high E2 symptoms getting worse with SQ (but numbers on bloodwork ok though, strange)
What? No, you seem to want to look like some enlightened messiah who have just found the golden book, just cause uve watched a couple of youtube videos, when we have literally thousands of peoples personal experiences which goes agains what ure saying, incredible close minded.
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You need some serious help. Go call a doctor and tell them you have issues with acceptance.
Now carry on while the adults talk.
One of you mentioned dbossa. He closed his account here because of the nonsense he was seeing here every day. The same nonsense I’m seeing. I showed him this thread and he said, and I quote:
Ask any of them if they would be willing to debate me on a live YouTube podcast. I don’t care if it’s just one of them or several of them. Tell them to be prepared if they do. It will be live. If they fail miserably in embarrassment, which is what will occur, it will be on them for not being prepared. Let me know.
@thebigzerg27
I switched to sub-q but about 3 months ago switched to daily IM. Feel exactly the same. Initially tried EOD IM and did not feel near as good as daily IM. So to summarize the main difference-maker for me is daily. Sub-q or IM don’t seem to make any difference.
What exactly are you high E2 symptoms? How long were you on that protocol that you felt high E2 symptoms?
Personally I think what matters is the up & downs of less frequent injections as opposed to the actual E2 number. Seems that way for me at least. There are some folks who thrive in less frequent injections. It’s all about trying new protocols and giving them enough time to work until you feel optimized.
Look bro, I have some respect for @@dbossa from a knowledge perspective, because he is pretty sharp, but as a person, at least how he comes across through his posts…
He’s a dick. He’s arrogant and he’s completely full of himself. He is always boasting the whole “podcast” thing. Impressive sure, but really man…who gives a fuck? You know why he wants to debate people in a live podcast? Because most people suck at public speaking, and get tripped up by very fast talkers. It’s a fucking politician’s platform man. There is no room or time to go and fact check every little thing said, and there is no time to go and research every study referenced.
It’s a bullshit platform that I don’t give two ounces of credence to it unless it is confined to two RENOWNED EXPERTS on the specified topic, and even then I would record it, and go and verify every word said by my own research.
If you want to bring a credible argument to your views brother, you’d better do a hell of a lot better than @dbossa.
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Daily dosing did not increase my E2. It decreased it. On 23mg daily (161mg/week), my free T is 37, my total T is 1344, and my E2 is a 26. I’ve never taken an AI. If anything, I’m concerned my E2 may be too low.
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There are more than two experts on the group.
He’s a dick because the guys here are given legitimate advice and dozens have come over to the group and found trt bliss after wasting their time with the the nonsense suggestions around here.
When you have learned something by experts and understand it fully it’s very frustrating to hear some of the suggestions that are going around here. It’s actually mind blowing. And then to have guys who have no clue what they are talking about argue with you is even more mind numbing and jsut frustrating.
Honestly if anyone’s a dick it’s the guy above who is a dick. Not you. Listen to him respond to me while I’m simply trying to help someone.
Not two docs : Eric Serrano, dr. Rouzier, dr Jeff, dr nichols, dr Howell, dr grant, A Llabres, russ Scala. All of these men are docs and I think two are experts in different fields: then we have several more that I could list.
Danny will be danny. He’s a good dude. He had spent dozens and dozens of hours learning from trt docs directly (dr. Nichols and Eric Serrano) . You can’t sit here and tell me the guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about after being guided by those two.
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Why don’t you go verify every word they say? Ask them they’ll provide it. Surely you don’t verify every word folks say here do you? You would sound like me by now!
I agree brother. The guy knows his shit and I have a true respect for that. My problem is that he never leaves the door open to other view points on the subject. That’s called closed minded.
What you have to understand is that I AGREE with almost everything that he has said, and I I am actually on board with the essence of what you are trying to preach here…but you guys have yet to take into consideration is that there are ALWAYS extenuating circumstances for some folks. There is no one size fits all in the TRT world. Every patient presents a different set of circumstances.
I guess my biggest problem with Danny is the way he reacts to resistance. Instead of being accepting of the fact that not everyone will agree with him, he got pissed because some people would not see things his way and then he packed it in and left. That’s childish brother. That’s a draw a hard “my way or the highway” line in the sand you know?
The last time I saw a reaction like that, the whole “I know better than you and if you don’t like it I’ll take myself elsewhere” bit, it came from my 16 year old child. See what I’m saying?
You can’t teach people from that type of attitude. If you are truly right, then you should be able to be confident and content in that fact. Instead he, and you to some extent if you’re being honest, will not be happy until the entire TRT world bows down and sings praises to your righteousness. It’s not gonna happen bro. There is always going to be someone who will see things differently, and you know what? Sometimes they’re going to be RIGHT!!
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I have. I’ve watched every podcast that Danny has posted here.
I was actually going to join you guys group, in the spirit of being open minded and to consider every angle of the topic at hand, but I don’t do social media. I have no room for facebook in my life. If you want to to keep up with me, then give me a call every now and then and I’d love to talk. Hit me up on this forum I’ll respond every time. I don’t need followers and I’m not so fucking full of myself where I think the world is actually sitting on the edge of their seats, dying to know what I’m having for lunch! Lol
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Can you see my point? Read what you wrote here very slowly man. Are you even able to open your eyes to see how arrogant this sounds? If not, I’ll re phrase what you said in a more clear dialect…
“If you knew what I know, then we wouldn’t be having this argument. You would be screaming from the rooftops that @enackers is right and the rest of T-Nation has got it all wrong! Poor peasants!”
See what I’m saying? I’m not trying to say that your a bad person brother, and I truly respect your passion to learn all you can. I respect that you believe what you believe. I AM saying that if you want anyone to listen to you, and you can take this one back to Danny, with love from @bmbrady77, you’ll have to have enough respect for other people to consider what they believe as well, even if you think that they’re dead wrong. Hell, even if you KNOW in your heart that they’re dead wrong. You still have to let people accept things in their own way, not yours. You can present facts, give personal experience, and share every study known to man…and you should. That’s a good thing. But be prepared for the fact that you still may not change the world. You’ll also have to be prepared for the fact that sometimes you’re going to be dead wrong, even when you believe you’re right. Hell if you weren’t then you’d be perfect.
That’s frustrating I know, but it is what it is. Always has been, always will be. There was only one perfect man in history to my knowledge, and those who just knew beyond all doubt that they were right, well… they crucified him.
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High e2 crew here
Trough numbers:
TT 926
FT 23.2
E2 72
No bloat, no symptoms, actually dropping weight
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