[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
KBCThird wrote:
gatesoftanhauser wrote:
I was a huge PanterA fan growing up and still rock their shit every once in awhile. What made me the most angry about watching that was seeing drugged out, burned out Phil Anselmo lying his ass off incoherently, barely able to keep his eyes open. Still, Phil walks a lucky line going onto yet another successful time period in his life post PanterA.
Down’s “Over the Under” was a very successful album and it makes me angry that a piece of shit like him gets success when he should be face down in his own vomit in some alleyway in New Orleans. I blame Phil for as to why PanterA broke up. His addiction and behavior is the reason.
Dimebag was our generation’s true guitar innovator. He made sounds out of that thing that most never thought possible.
…which had all but died with the bastardizing of MetallicA by Bob Rock and corporate radio…
See this is the conundrum tho. On the one hand we all regret the breakup of pantera, but on the other hand, bands that stay together forever inevitably do something that their fan-base (or a portion thereof) derides as “selling-out.” I mean holy hell, Peter Framton is doing ads for geico now - friggin GEICO! I’m of two minds on the subject, because while I dont think Metallica changed their style for the money, my favorite of all their albums (puppets) came out almost a quarter-century ago, so yes, I do like their old stuff better. Then again, is it fair to ask a band to improve EVERY SINGLE TIME they release an album? Hell, Justice wasnt that great of a departure, stylistically speaking, from puppets, but in my opinion doesnt even hold a candle to Puppets.
I do think that Phil probably started/provoked 90% of the conflicts that led to Pantera’s breakup, whatever specific problems those were. But as far as blaming him … I dunno, creative genius is a package, take it or leave it. I dont mean that if you’re a creative genius youre a jerk - dime, for my money is right up there with hendrix, and he was by all accounts a nice guy. But maybe if Phil didnt have as many demons, his lyrics wouldnt have been as powerful, his singing as impassioned/crazy/whatever. I think it’s hard to isolate singular aspects of a person’s personality and remove them without affecting what you had left. Everybody forgets that Pantera - Dime and Vinnie and I believe rex - released a few albums before CFH, but nothing worht mentioning until phil joined the band. Who knows how much of what Phil now says is for the benefit of the cameras, but it sounds like he’s changed direction in his life, and that’s worth noting.
Pantera was a glam band once, they don’t even claim the album they made as their own lol. It’s a collectors item. I forget what it’s called.[/quote]
Yeah, they have 3 glam metal albums. Metal Magic, Projects in the Jungle, and I am the Night. And they are all very good and definitely worth owning. I don’t know why they brushed those albums under the rug like they did. Sure, they looked like Motley Crue, but they still rocked.
I’m also fairly amused that Phil is still alive as well. He seems to have cleaned his act up, and I think the last Down album was some of his best singing. Too bad he was such a assclown during and after the demise of Pantera.
