Beckham Conquering America (Puke)

[quote]lixy wrote:
LightsOutLuthor wrote:
lixy wrote:
FightingScott wrote:
I’m not trying to sound cocky. I’m just saying that America dictates whose the most popular.

In many areas, that is the case. But here, it’s definitely not.

Golf is not “big” by any standard, and Woods is not the most popular sportsman in the world.

I don’t get out much? What if I traveled the world and did a large scale survey of who was the most famous sports figure currently competing. I’d probably find that Americans care the most about sports and entertainment, and that Tiger would be the most popular even if entire nations didn’t know who he was or that golf is televised.

Eh? This makes no sense whatsoever.

It’d be a different story if he was competing in something popular. Think football, boxing, etc.

Let me add that if not going out much gave you the wrong impression about the popularity of golf, it’s your lack of logical abilities that makes you conclude that Wood is “the most popular”.

I think his point was strictly based in percentages. 3 billion folks in China and India (not the real number - please for the sake of argument go with it) that are in rural areas PROBABLY don’t know who Tiger Woods is. So, his argument hold on a percentage basis.

FightingScott’s argument was that Woods is “PROBABLY” the most popular sports figure in the world. Which is false since, as you just said, lots of Indians and Chinese don’t know who he is.

Clear enough?[/quote]

Well, I thought I was defending you…or I was misreading his treatise there (to be honest I fell asleep halfway thru twice) but I can’t keep track of who said what…and given the nature of the subject, I can’t really say I’m upset.

LOL

[quote]blazindave wrote:

However to label the most commercial athletes as the absolute elite is utter bullshit. If they were the ultimate athletes then ok, but they arent. And i’m not hating on them because of commercialisment (sp), just that i find they are not elite athletes. People who can power clean 400 pounds or run 500 miles non stop, those are the true ELITE athletes…[/quote]

Strength and endurance are just 2 forms of athleticism. Specialists like powerlifters or endurance athletes don’t do well in other sports so I don’t see how you can possibly consider them elite while not considering the greatest soccer players in the world elite.

Let’s face facts. Soccer draws some of the best athletes from around the world, same as football and basketball draw the best athletes in the US. $$$$$$

[quote]lixy wrote:
LightsOutLuthor wrote:
lixy wrote:
FightingScott wrote:
I’m not trying to sound cocky. I’m just saying that America dictates whose the most popular.

In many areas, that is the case. But here, it’s definitely not.

Golf is not “big” by any standard, and Woods is not the most popular sportsman in the world.

I don’t get out much? What if I traveled the world and did a large scale survey of who was the most famous sports figure currently competing. I’d probably find that Americans care the most about sports and entertainment, and that Tiger would be the most popular even if entire nations didn’t know who he was or that golf is televised.

Eh? This makes no sense whatsoever.

It’d be a different story if he was competing in something popular. Think football, boxing, etc.

Let me add that if not going out much gave you the wrong impression about the popularity of golf, it’s your lack of logical abilities that makes you conclude that Wood is “the most popular”.

I think his point was strictly based in percentages. 3 billion folks in China and India (not the real number - please for the sake of argument go with it) that are in rural areas PROBABLY don’t know who Tiger Woods is. So, his argument hold on a percentage basis.

FightingScott’s argument was that Woods is “PROBABLY” the most popular sports figure in the world. Which is false since, as you just said, lots of Indians and Chinese don’t know who he is.

Clear enough?[/quote]

Honestly, I can’t even keep track of who said what in this thread, when there are 5000+ word responses involved (a little hyperbole, but you get the point). I fell asleep twice during the reading of that initial argument, so maybe I misread what his point was.

My point is statistics are are evil and the people that use them either know what they are doing with them or are blind to the skewing that can be achieved in number manipulation