BD Counterfeits

Early today, I was contacted by my good friend at British Dragon (Yeah, I know British Dragon personally), and told that IP had been caught producing counterfeit BD products.

After looking through several Links and photos, I have come to the conclusion that IP has indeed been producing most of the fake BD on the black market today. Here’s a full report, with links, from BD (in quotes below).

Although I have known about this situation for awhile, BD has asked me to hold off posting this information until IP was given a chance to explain himself- which was not done, and instead, a cover-up seems to have been attempted. Anyway, here’s the info from BD, verifying these claims:

From British Dragon:

hi all

basically IP has been caught red handed, after getting more than
200 emails about a BD oxandrolone whihc was the wrong color
I had no choice but to defend our brand from copies/fakes etc, ip
has been selling copied bd tabs to his remailers and pushing them
as original BD product,
IP has his own brand and probaly more than enough business but can
help to get that extra $,also his australia remailer ozbodz aka
flex2x has been sending bd injects with oil and bd labels
sent to him by IP, the australian remailers website still shows
british dragon on there (www.iplabsonline.com), also a chinese
trading company has been advertising tabs they make
check the picture attached and blow it up IP and BD tabs together
hmmmmmm

now the pictures of the copied oxandrolone are here
Loading... clear difference on
tabs,

there are hundreds of threads flaming IP everyday, this however is
not to flame or bash IP this problem cam from him to us

since all this was revealed , IP has tried the following

on some IP remailers lists the british dragon products have been
renamed bodiez by design products so they can say was a mistake
and thats why the tabs were BD, why would bodiez by design on the
same say as the exposure starts become a tab producer with the
exact same mould as british dragon for their tabs

next excuse was that this that the tabs are from www.british-
dragon.com (a copy website in hongkong) which Ip says is the
producer of these copied tabs, since this knock off
company does not even make tabs and they dont actually exist
outside of a attorneys office or have any licenses as the info
below proves

anyone in hong kong can register a company by any name and also
register a trade mark but having an attorneys office has nothing to
do with being a legit pharm company

here is the contact part of british-dragon.com
http://www.british-dragon.com/contacts.shtml

compare the address with the attorneys office which is where they
are registered http://www.oln-law.com/ exactly the same, also
welcome to call attorneys office in hong kong and ask them if
britishdragon is registered there, an offshore company with a
trademark in a lawyers office is a big difference to a licensed
company

anyway incase you wonder if british-dragon.com had a license here
is the hong kong government website of licensed pharma companies in
hong kong (note the url has .gov in it so it is the government not
same ficitious website)

http://www.psdh.gov.hk/eps/index.jsp

no british dragon there,

lastly even this british-dragon.com has a different logo than us
atleast they had the decency not to try and copy our logo,

you can make as many reasons as possible for the BD tabs but when
you have IP and I am sure more than enough business why did you go
down this route ?

for customers protection I would suggest all buyers beware of
british dragon knock off and fakes and check the approved suppliers
section of the www.britishdragon.com
to make sure your supplier is an approved BD supplier.

I have nothing against IP, but its a pretty good bet that the QV oils that he is selling are chinese counterfeits as well. Considering QV has basically been down since Dec 2005 (i believe).

Basically its a fair bet that any name brand drug coming out of China is counterfeit including all the Viagra and Cialis that is floating around everywhere. Of course this does not necessarily mean they are bunk, just not what is advertised exactly.

[quote]morepain wrote:
I have nothing against IP, but its a pretty good bet that the QV oils that he is selling are chinese counterfeits as well. Considering QV has basically been down since Dec 2005 (i believe).
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Actually, IP has been producing fake QV for over a year now. Sorry…I thought everyone knew that. Oh…and you know those Sustanon amps which appeared on the black market about a year ago (overfilled by .1ml)? Yeah, those were produced by IP also…

I have pretty good connects in the Underground, and I sometimes forget that what I know to be true often hasn’t hit the mainstream yet…

So yes, to confirm what you are saying, the QV that IP sells is fake also, as were those Sustanons from a year ago.

I held off making this post until British Dragon wanted it made, and did so after seeing photographic evidence, as well as e-mail correspondances between the Labs…even though the rumour mill was alive and kicking on several small (and terrible) boards, where this situation was previously being speculated about…

[quote]Anthony Roberts wrote:
morepain wrote:
I have nothing against IP, but its a pretty good bet that the QV oils that he is selling are chinese counterfeits as well. Considering QV has basically been down since Dec 2005 (i believe).
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Actually, IP has been producing fake QV for over a year now. Sorry…I thought everyone knew that. Oh…and you know those Sustanon amps which appeared on the black market about a year ago (overfilled by .1ml)? Yeah, those were produced by IP also…

I have pretty good connects in the Underground, and I sometimes forget that what I know to be true often hasn’t hit the mainstream yet…

So yes, to confirm what you are saying, the QV that IP sells is fake also, as were those Sustanons from a year ago.

I held off making this post until British Dragon wanted it made, and did so after seeing photographic evidence, as well as e-mail correspondances between the Labs…even though the rumour mill was alive and kicking on several small (and terrible) boards, where this situation was previously being speculated about…
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AR, i know there was some talk about the fake BD stuff being tested, do you know how any of that turned out? I don’t really follow it much anymore.

the britsh-dragon contact address in hong kong does not even exists as far as I know - I am in Hong Kong this weeks so if I find it I will pay them a visit.

Top notch info AR. Keep us posted.

Kind of sucks, I have some bulk oils from IP and now I am skeptic of them. What do you think AR? I really don’t even want to chance it now.

JW

Thanks for the info Tony. Please keep posting around here if only to keep pissing off a few people.