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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:

Lol. That’s not how this works.[/quote]

So are you telling me that the only rights I have are guaranteed in the Constitution ?
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No, the only rights you have were given to you by virture of you being alive. The Constitution is a tool to prevent the government from taking your rights away.

Government can’t grant rights. Being grants rights. The government can only limit or take away rights. [/quote]

The constitution is a historical document that has all but lost significant meaning. Our right have been gone for so long we will never retrieve them . The constitution in NO TOOL (IMO)

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:

Lol. That’s not how this works.[/quote]

So are you telling me that the only rights I have are guaranteed in the Constitution ?
[/quote]

No, the only rights you have were given to you by virture of you being alive. The Constitution is a tool to prevent the government from taking your rights away.

Government can’t grant rights. Being grants rights. The government can only limit or take away rights. [/quote]

The constitution is a historical document that has all but lost significant meaning. Our right have been gone for so long we will never retrieve them . The constitution in NO TOOL (IMO)
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Your rights are never gone, that is the point. They can’t be taken away, only oppressed.

Healthcare isn’t a right. It is a service. Because for it to be a right to you, you have to take someone else’s rights away.

You post is irrelevant to the subject matter.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:

Lol. That’s not how this works.[/quote]

So are you telling me that the only rights I have are guaranteed in the Constitution ?
[/quote]

No, the only rights you have were given to you by virture of you being alive. The Constitution is a tool to prevent the government from taking your rights away.

Government can’t grant rights. Being grants rights. The government can only limit or take away rights. [/quote]

The constitution is a historical document that has all but lost significant meaning. Our right have been gone for so long we will never retrieve them . The constitution in NO TOOL (IMO)
[/quote]

Your rights are never gone, that is the point. They can’t be taken away, only oppressed.

Healthcare isn’t a right. It is a service. Because for it to be a right to you, you have to take someone else’s rights away.

You post is irrelevant to the subject matter.[/quote]

We agree we have the right to have public health care , it is all semantics. I also agree the constitution has little to do with our rights . You have the rights you have the balls to exercise and the money to defend what you do

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

We agree we have the right to have public health care , it is all semantics.[/quote]

No, we don’t agree. Nor is whether something is a right or not semantics.

One does not have the right to the service of another. They have the right to pursue happiness (earn property). Then that indivdual can exchange that with someone that provides the service of healthcare.

Having a doctor treat you isn’t a right. Your rights are granted by god/nature what-ever-you-want-to-call it.

I never said that. I said your dribble about what the constitution is or isn’t “today” is irrelevant.

[quote] You have the rights you have the balls to exercise and the money to defend what you do
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What?

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

We agree we have the right to have public health care , it is all semantics.[/quote]

No, we don’t agree. Nor is whether something is a right or not semantics.

One does not have the right to the service of another. They have the right to pursue happiness (earn property). Then that indivdual can exchange that with someone that provides the service of healthcare.

Having a doctor treat you isn’t a right. Your rights are granted by god/nature what-ever-you-want-to-call it.

I never said that. I said your dribble about what the constitution is or isn’t “today” is irrelevant.

[quote] You have the rights you have the balls to exercise and the money to defend what you do
[/quote]

What? [/quote]

Why are you still even commenting Beans? This thread is so full of absurdity it’s given me a head ache.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Having a doctor treat you isn’t a right.
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This is where you are wrong , I have every right to have a doctor treat me or . Your statement is so incorrect it is silly

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Why are you still even commenting Beans? This thread is so full of absurdity it’s given me a head ache. [/quote]

I think we should only have discussions with people that agree with us . that way we don’t get head aches :slight_smile:

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I think way too many people HERE take themselves way too serious .

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Having a doctor treat you isn’t a right.
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This is where you are wrong ,[/quote]

No. It isn’t.

You have the right to take your property, and trade it to a doctor for his service.

You do not have the “right” to have a doctor treat you. The doctor has to choose to treat you, you can’t force him by virtue of your “rights” to do it. So you either hope the doctor wants to do it out of the kindness of his heart, or you give the doctor some property of value to treat you.

Your right is access to the doctor, because within the Doctor’s pursuit of happiness he offers his or her services in exchange for porperty. Now because the two pursuits of happiness (your’s for the service, his for property) come together in the market place, you end up with the right to access.

If no one ever chose to be a doctor, you wouldn’t have the right to access, because in that case someone would be forced to practice medicine.

So no, you don’t have the right to force anyone to do anything for you. You have the right to participate in the market. Now if the market is FUBAR, it needs to be fixed, but that doesn’t make healthcare a right.

A doctor’s service is just that, a service. A doctor’s service isn’t a “right”, not at all.

[quote]Your statement is so incorrect it is silly
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What is silly is what you are calling a “right”.

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Now, just because something isn’t a “right” doesn’t mean it isn’t important and shouldn’t be addressed.

Everyone is so quick to call what they want a right in the hopes they get what they want. Healthcare is no exception.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Having a doctor treat you isn’t a right.
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This is where you are wrong , I have every right to have a doctor treat me or . Your statement is so incorrect it is silly
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WOW…just so mind blowing-ly incorrect and fundamentally inaccurate it merits the picture (or Push’s bars of gold). But it does point out the fictional viewpoint that so many people base their views on our healthcare system from.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Having a doctor treat you isn’t a right.
[/quote]

This is where you are wrong , I have every right to have a doctor treat me or . Your statement is so incorrect it is silly
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Sure.

Your cotton has to be picked.

Fucking abolitionists.

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I was pointing out to beans that it is my right to have a doctor treat me , it (may) not be all right to expect
You to pay for it. But the conversation is totally about semantics , his wording was " Having a doctor treat you isn’t a right. " cut and paste . I have the right to have witch doctor treat me if (I) like

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Yeah, I’m done with this thread.

Pittbull, once in a while you have some decent points, even if I don’t always agree with them. Here, you are arguing like a 13 year old child that is too prideful, snotty, and full of themselves to admit they are clearly wrong as hell.

For heaven’s sake, my 5 year old could understand why my point of view is right.

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I cant believe people are still indulging this guy. The last several pages have done nothing other than to prove that Pitbull has no clue what an inherent “right” is. Im hoping to god there is some sort of language barrier he is not breaking and that he doesnt truly believe some of the things hes saying…for his sake.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Why are you still even commenting Beans? This thread is so full of absurdity it’s given me a head ache. [/quote]

I think we should only have discussions with people that agree with us . that way we don’t get head aches :)[/quote]

I was thinking more along the lines of people with sound ideas and logical arguments. I like alternative ideas to my own, if they make sense.

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[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Yeah, I’m done with this thread.

Pittbull, once in a while you have some decent points, even if I don’t always agree with them. Here, you are arguing like a 13 year old child that is too prideful, snotty, and full of themselves to admit they are clearly wrong as hell.

For heaven’s sake, my 5 year old could understand why my point of view is right. [/quote]

I agree with the point the thread has lost it’s way , I started the thread on Battle ground Walmart and let it migrate . Glad your 5 agrees with you :slight_smile:

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Why are you still even commenting Beans? This thread is so full of absurdity it’s given me a head ache. [/quote]

I think we should only have discussions with people that agree with us . that way we don’t get head aches :)[/quote]

I was thinking more along the lines of people with sound ideas and logical arguments. I like alternative ideas to my own, if they make sense.[/quote]

Think as you like , IMO it does not take much to give you a head ache :slight_smile:

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
But the conversation is totally about semantics [/quote]

No it isn’t.

You have no idea what a right is or isn’t. Your use of the term proves as much.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Having a doctor treat you isn’t a right.
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So you are telling me that if I want to pay for a doctor , I have no right to get what I pay for ?