[quote]pushharder wrote:
It means we are honoring the military collectively…
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What are the “collective” characters of the military you are “honoring” and how exactly does one honor someone else whom one does not know?
Because, honestly, while I wore the uniform all I wanted y’all to do is STFU – collectively, of course!
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Dustin wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Why does that concept seem so hard for you to grasp?
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I understand what you mean and grasp what are saying just fine.
But do you also not see that there are Americans that will defend those in the military no matter what they do?..
[/quote]I, just for one, have never met an American that desires to honor the low-lifes in the Armed Services. Maybe you have.
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I think the problem is that Americans don’t realize or want to acknowledge that there are low-lifes in the military and instead chose to blindly worship them.
It’s much easier that way.
I’m just guessing though…
[quote]pushharder wrote:
For instance, I have never seen a parade for the folks in this one particular facility in Leavenworth, KS. Have you?[/quote]
Can’t say that I have ever been to that part of Kansas.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
That’s plumb crazy. Where do you get that from?
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My own observations.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
It means we are honoring the military collectively…
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What are the “collective” characters of the military you are “honoring” and how exactly does one honor someone else whom one does not know?[/quote]
Ponder it for awhile. It’ll come to you.[quote]
Because, honestly, while I wore the uniform all I wanted y’all to do is STFU – collectively, of course![/quote]
So Americans’ collective response in regards to honoring our military should be based on what you as a particular individual wanted while in uniform? Kinda haughty of ya, Jose.[/quote]
Despite how I think one should – or if it’s even possible to – honor someone one doesn’t know it is the same thing as believing in superstition in my book.
What you are honoring is merely symbolic, anyway. A mere chessboard and its pieces manipulated by others.
I’ve already ordered my american soldier effigies from Lew’s site. Normally I’d get them from the DNC, but those Austrian econ folks have a sale (they throw in lighter-fluid and a lighter). Already Received my ‘whites only’ sign, signed by Rand himself.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
I’ve already ordered my american soldier effigies from Lew’s site. Normally I’d get them from the DNC, but those Austrian econ folks have a sale (they throw in lighter-fluid and a lighter). Already Received my ‘whites only’ sign, signed by Rand himself.[/quote]
ha…you kinda wish this were true, huh?
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[/quote]I haven’t seen it from the inside but I know enough about people (I celebrate my half century birthday in three months) to understand exactly what you mean.
Don’t think for a minute that when “we” honor our military that “we” are individually tea-bagging every rotten low-life that is in the military. It means we are honoring the military collectively and in the instances of “good” military men and women, individually.
Why does that concept seem so hard for you to grasp?
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Good post.
That whole debate is beside the point.
The most honorable and decent people can be made to do the most atrocious things.
I bet that most Iraqis would prefer a low life that does not kill them because there is nothing in it for him over a decent honorable man that is convinced that he is killing them for their own good.
In fact decent people who are convinced that they are doing the right thing are the worst case scenario, because they will never stop until you make them by force.
[quote]Dustin wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Stinkin’ military.
C’mon Onion and Co., where’s the hate?[/quote]
I do not hate them, that would be like hating the inmates of an asylum.
I am more than willing to make fun of those who mindlessly adore them though.
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Hmmmm…this reminds me…you’ve made quite the change in the last year or so.
It wasn’t too long ago that you directly compared American B-2 pilots who delivered bunker busting precision munitions in the mouths of Al Qaeda infested Afghani caves to SS troops who shoved Jews into ovens at Dachau and Auschwitz.
(For those of you newbies or those who missed this…now you know why Onion is the Royal Fuckface)
[edit] Keep in mind his grandpappy was a member of that “ethnic” group.[/quote]
How do the actions of his relatives have anything to do with him?
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That is very American of you, but how could their sins not have shaped me to some degree?
Well, ask a child of a drunk how much they like drunk people…
Yes, we are all familiar with our parents sins.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Dustin wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Stinkin’ military.
C’mon Onion and Co., where’s the hate?[/quote]
I do not hate them, that would be like hating the inmates of an asylum.
I am more than willing to make fun of those who mindlessly adore them though.
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Hmmmm…this reminds me…you’ve made quite the change in the last year or so.
It wasn’t too long ago that you directly compared American B-2 pilots who delivered bunker busting precision munitions in the mouths of Al Qaeda infested Afghani caves to SS troops who shoved Jews into ovens at Dachau and Auschwitz.
(For those of you newbies or those who missed this…now you know why Onion is the Royal Fuckface)
[edit] Keep in mind his grandpappy was a member of that “ethnic” group.[/quote]
How do the actions of his relatives have anything to do with him?
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That is very American of you, but how could their sins not have shaped me to some degree?
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I don’t agree with everything orion states but i will give the man his dues, he got balls.