Barney Frank

the apocolypse must be near. just saw him give a speech on the floor yesterday, and i agreed with just about everything this crack-pot had to say. he was talking about how what the Israel was justified in conducting the war the way it was. how hezbollah and ham-mas have been launching attacks from the very territories that Israel withdrew from to try to make peace.

Also, he equated what they are doing with what WE did with the UN’s AND all you lib’s lord and master Bill Clinton’s approval: the indiscriminate bombing of civilian targets in Serbia to get them (the Serbs) to withdraw and cease military action against their Balkan neighbors.

[quote]heavythrower wrote:
Also, he equated what they are doing with what WE did with the UN’s AND all you lib’s lord and master Bill Clinton’s approval: the indiscriminate bombing of civilian targets in Serbia to get them (the Serbs) to withdraw and cease military action against their Balkan neighbors. [/quote]

What are you talking about, nobody is indiscriminately bombing civilians, unless you are talking about Hezbolla?

I think the Serbian bombings targetted civilian infrastructures such as power plants and bridges. Those are “civilian” in the sense that they aren’t military installations and that their main function is not militatry in nature.

I don’t believe the Serbian targets where the civilian population itself. The goal was not to have a high casualty count.

Hezbollah appears to be shooting its missiles pretty much willy-nilly, not really aiming for any particular target; but pretty much aiming (no pun intended) for maximum chaos.

let me clarify.

what he meant was that overall he supported what Israel was doing. targeting civilian “infrastructure” like we did in the Balkan conflict. unfortunate, but necessary means to an end.

Okay, I’m happy now. I’ve been arguing this issue recently with people bitching about the civilians in Lebanon…

This is not news.

Mainstream liberals AREN’T opposed to war and HAVEN’T been opposed to it in decades, if ever.

Liberals support war for the “right” reasons. What this means, effectively, is that they cheer wars started by Democrats and denounce those started by Republicans as the work of Satan. Liberals are idiots. Mainstream conservatives who pretend that their liberal counterparts are anti-war hippies are also idiots. They fail to realize that they’re sitting in the same boat as the libs.

Neither the right nor the left seriously entertains the prospect of non-interventionism.

For that, you have to go Libertarian.

This article tells the truth about liberals and war:

And here’s an equally good one about Clinton’s campaign in Bosnia:

[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:

For that, you have to go Libertarian.

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NOW we’re talking. I agree, don’t vote democrat. Vote Libertarian instead!

[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
This is not news.

Mainstream liberals AREN’T opposed to war and HAVEN’T been opposed to it in decades, if ever.

Liberals support war for the “right” reasons. What this means, effectively, is that they cheer wars started by Democrats and denounce those started by Republicans as the work of Satan. Liberals are idiots. Mainstream conservatives who pretend that their liberal counterparts are anti-war hippies are also idiots. They fail to realize that they’re sitting in the same boat as the libs.

Neither the right nor the left seriously entertains the prospect of non-interventionism.

For that, you have to go Libertarian.

This article tells the truth about liberals and war:

And here’s an equally good one about Clinton’s campaign in Bosnia:

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very interesting stuff, thanks for posting it. i am not a cheerleader for democrats or republicans.