[quote]vroom wrote:
I love how the rabid Bush supporters always make stuff like this up. You (and I) have no way to know how these people would have reacted under this situation.
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But we know how Bush reacted in those situations. To argue that Gore and Kery might have done worse… Whow…
[quote]The Mage wrote:
orion wrote:
You got a problem with gay looking avatars?
You’ve got a freakin handle on your head. Is there anything as gay as that?[/quote]
Pistol grip ears.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
What’s so wrong with what she said? I guess the truth should be candy-coated so that it is more acceptable to some?
Give me a damn break. Is this T-Nation we are on? Sounds more like e-nation.
You sensitive types grow a damn nut - what she said was the truth, whether you are honest enough to admit it or not. [/quote]
The truth should be candy coated?? So it must be the truth that its a step-up, or that its working out very well, that these people lost their homes and now have to be packed in like sardines in a football stadium? It must be a step up that some of these people lost friends and family and most of them lost their animals… Wow… Where can we sign up? I’d give up my house and my life to get a $2,000 Red Cross credit card no problem!
[quote]rainjack wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
What she said was offensive and wrong. Wouldn’t matter if she’s a Repbulican or Democrat or whatever. Are the poor people of New Orleans who lost their houses and jobs-albeit it bad jobs and shitty housing-really better off now? No. And how much aid are they really going to get? What she said is a reflection on her. Whether it’s a relfection on the president or partisan politics more generally to any degree is more debatable.
If she is wrong, please tell me what she said that broke a rule?
I’ve heard more than one person say stuff way worse than Barbara Bush about the former residents of NOLA.
Honestly - just because you disagree with it, and just because the PC handbook says not to say shit like that doesn’t make it wrong. [/quote]
What is a rule? Why does there have to a rule that’s broken for something to be an offensive statement that reflects poorly on someone? I don’t think there does as all. Just because people have said worse things about the former residents of NOLA than Barbara Bush doesn’t mean that what she said was not right. Not so much not right as showing cluelessness (if not insensitivty) to the situations the poor face both before the hurricane and currently now that they are displaced. Your insistence on defending her is motivated just as much on blind partisianship as the the extremist liberals who are using her statements as a condemnation of the republican party.
[quote]ron33 wrote:
Zap & Rain,I dont want to make you mad ,but i think people would give you more respect if you didnt have those Gay lookin little men on your post’s.They just dont seem right for 2 intelligent conservatives.Just a suggestion.
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That’s an insult to gay people. I would expect gay people to have a little more style. And besides this has nothing to do with the original post.
[quote]The Mage wrote:
You might already have real player and not know it. If not your computer will get it easily enough.
I found it kind of enlightening myself. Everyone ignores absolutely everything else she says, and actually hearing it gives it a completely different meaning.
She said a lot of good stuff, and made one misstatement that even the reporter didn?t seem to respond to.
She is helping her Husband attempt to get people to donate money for the relief, praising all the people who are helping, talks about a child who waited 3 days to get rescued, and they focus on this.
What was that quote about the politics of personal destruction? I thought the left was supposed to be against hate, but then why do so many engage in it?[/quote]
Mage, you are right on the money. People, you have to listen to the whole interview for yourself before forming an opinion. Don’t rely on reading some liberal media garbage quoting one line which was completely taken out of context before you form any opinion.
Yes, she apparently made one gaffe regarding the underpriviledged comment but this quote is being taken way out of context by the liberal media. I challenge all of you who are bashing her to actually listen to the interview before you make any judgements. Rainjack, is right. This comment is being used to bash the Bush administration. This shouldn’t even be a discussion. Way overblown.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Check this article out. This stupid cunt who has lived nothing but the high life since she was born, who lived a poor person’s dream of going to boarding school, gettin all she wanted, and marrying another cocksucker millionaire, SHE has all the authority in the world to even remotely talk about the poor. “ITS WORKING OUT VERY WELL FOR THEM???” This stupid bitch should be put in their position, waiting and praying for word from a loved one. Obviously out glorious leader in the White House has her shallow side of the gene pool. CUNT!!!
(Sorry about the language, but I was really enraged by this).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20050906/cm_thenation/120080 [/quote]
You are a sad, hateful little man, and I pity you.
She’s a sweet caring lady…
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
What is a rule? Why does there have to a rule that’s broken for something to be an offensive statement that reflects poorly on someone? I don’t think there does as all. Just because people have said worse things about the former residents of NOLA than Barbara Bush doesn’t mean that what she said was not right. Not so much not right as showing cluelessness (if not insensitivty) to the situations the poor face both before the hurricane and currently now that they are displaced. Your insistence on defending her is motivated just as much on blind partisianship as the the extremist liberals who are using her statements as a condemnation of the republican party.
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You said what she said was “wrong”. I’m no law student, but to say something is wrong means that it has deviated from what is considered right.
I’m asking you to tell me what was wrong with her statement. You said she was wrong - I’m just asking why.
I support her because I belive she is exactly right in what she said. Was it offensive? Evidently to members of the PC crowd it was. I don’t happen to think it was.
You’re the Law student - tell me to whom the 1st Amendment applies?
You have every right to disagree with her statements. But to try and nail it to G-dub is the definition of partisan hackery.
Did you catch the ‘snicker’ when she said the line?
I truely believe she has no clue whatsoever about what happened, how bad it was, and how it affected these people.
[quote]SWR-1222D wrote:
Did you catch the ‘snicker’ when she said the line?
I truely believe she has no clue whatsoever about what happened, how bad it was, and how it affected these people.
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But isn’t that the problem?
[quote]SWR-1222D wrote:
Did you catch the ‘snicker’ when she said the line?
I truely believe she has no clue whatsoever about what happened, how bad it was, and how it affected these people.
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What interview were you listening to? Me thinks you are hearing things…
[quote]rainjack wrote:
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The problem I have isn’t whether or not she said it. My problem is with all the frothy-mouthed ABBers thinking that they have something that proves anything.
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He’s right you know. When any Bush says anything, some people think they have something that proves anything.
But no, they don’t.
[quote]snipeout wrote:
It’s always about bashing Bush. What would have been really scary would have been having gore in office for 9/11 or kerry in office for katrina. gore, now there is someone capable of making a military decision… and how about kerry, there is someone capable of making a decision and sticking to it. Let’s evacuate, no wait stand fast! I was for evacuation before I was against evacuation. [/quote]
Now there’s a thought. As Gore probably woulndn’t have been sleeping during Clintons briefing, he very likely would have taken the Al Quada threat seriously and there’s a big chance 9/11 wouldn’t have happened.
And with the National Guard not fighting in Iraq, the responce to Katrina would be a whole lot better.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
What’s so wrong with what she said? I guess the truth should be candy-coated so that it is more acceptable to some?
Give me a damn break. Is this T-Nation we are on? Sounds more like e-nation.
You sensitive types grow a damn nut - what she said was the truth, whether you are honest enough to admit it or not. [/quote]
“Rainjack, you’re doning one heck of a job ! ! !”
Yeah, I’d hate to think you could look at the attitudes surrounding him during his formative years and imagine that it could have any potential influence on his own development and beliefs.
Nosirree.
That would be silly.
RJ,
Careful, you saw what happened to the last man who was “doing one heck of a job”.
[quote]vroom wrote:
RJ,
Careful, you saw what happened to the last man who was “doing one heck of a job”.[/quote]
vroom -
Never mind.
Nice skirt.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
What is a rule? Why does there have to a rule that’s broken for something to be an offensive statement that reflects poorly on someone? I don’t think there does as all. Just because people have said worse things about the former residents of NOLA than Barbara Bush doesn’t mean that what she said was not right. Not so much not right as showing cluelessness (if not insensitivty) to the situations the poor face both before the hurricane and currently now that they are displaced. Your insistence on defending her is motivated just as much on blind partisianship as the the extremist liberals who are using her statements as a condemnation of the republican party.
You said what she said was “wrong”. I’m no law student, but to say something is wrong means that it has deviated from what is considered right.
I’m asking you to tell me what was wrong with her statement. You said she was wrong - I’m just asking why.
I support her because I belive she is exactly right in what she said. Was it offensive? Evidently to members of the PC crowd it was. I don’t happen to think it was.
You’re the Law student - tell me to whom the 1st Amendment applies?
You have every right to disagree with her statements. But to try and nail it to G-dub is the definition of partisan hackery.
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I don’t particularly think it has anything to do with Dubya other than the fact that she raised him. I do disagree with her statements. Nobody in New Orleans is doing well. Poor or rich. Whether or not they were suffering previous to her hurricane. Taking to anyone from there, and there are a bunch in this 1L class, makes that abundantly clear. What she said doesn’t bother me much. It just strikes me as ignorant, insensitive, and out-of-touch.
[quote]vroom -
Never mind.
Nice skirt.[/quote]
Really? Thanks! I was just trying to copy yours… heh.