[quote]EzP wrote:
So all in all I think the consensus would be to start the test e now at 400 mg a week. Keep on the test e for 2 more wks after you have finished with the rest of the cycles. (You can also front load with test prop while you are waiting for the test e). Maybe not the greatest cycle, bc the Deca at only a month is not enough but if your BALLS are what we are worried about, it doesn’t matter all that much. One wk after your last test e injection start your 4 wk nolva PCT. 40/40/20/20.
As tw2 says, AI and prami all the way till your stop taking the test[/quote]
No he said above he wants to stop
my bad saps i didn’t see the second page like an idiot. But you quoted me before I could edit haha
[quote]EzP wrote:
my bad saps i didn’t see the second page like an idiot. But you quoted me before I could edit haha[/quote]
haha keep up the good work FLASH!
[quote]EzP wrote:
haha keep up the good work FLASH![/quote]
Im just excited I finally took the nine seconds it took to learn how to upload pics
[quote]saps wrote:
[quote]saturn_storm wrote:
I am 5.7 inches tall , weighting 170 lbs with 5%bf.
Chest 58 Inches, Arms 19 inches Forearms 16 inches legs 25 inches [/quote]
I’d love to see a picture of this physique. Same size chest as Arnold at 170lbs. 19" arms at 170lbs. Brilliant[/quote]
bahahaha i think he showed you
I see that even though the past cycles are quite a bit screwy. Your libido issues are clearly related to the fact that this is the first time you shot with no testosterone.
so there is nothing i can do , are you guys sure i will be ok without hcg or nolva ?
[quote]saturn_storm wrote:
so there is nothing i can do , are you guys sure i will be ok without hcg or nolva ?[/quote]
There’s plenty you can do. But given your expressed goals. You should be fine. The orals should clear fast and like I said before the majority of your one shot of deca is already gone. Im pretty surprised you got hit as hard and fast as you did. HCG is suppressive and will actually delay your natural recovery. And if your problem is in anyway related to your estrogen being too low than Nolva won’t be very helpful there. You should count your blessings though given your 4-5 cycle history Im stunned you have never encountered problems before with your super sub-optimal protocol. What has been your method of PCT in your previous cycle runs?
Saps has given you solid advice.
If things dont improve in 4-6 weeks then start to panic. Hopefully the nandrolone didnt do any permanent damage
In the mean time you should really read more about these drugs. I dont say that because of the questions you ask. It’s normal to have questions when something strange happens. But the way you phrase things and the way you ask questions makes it seem like you are going more by what someone in the gym has told you instead of what science + experience says is right.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
In the mean time you should really read more about these drugs. I dont say that because of the questions you ask. It’s normal to have questions when something strange happens. But the way you phrase things and the way you ask questions makes it seem like you are going more by what someone in the gym has told you instead of what science + experience says is right. [/quote]
Terrific point there Bonez. Its why I keep trying to pry out more info about his 4-5 previous cycle. Experience is the greatest teacher. Im still waiting on the answer to why did you choose a test-less cycle
How long should i wait till i start new cycle . And what would be the perfect cycle With what pct support ?
I have the followings ;
Sustanon 250
Test eth
Test prop
Winstrol
OXymetholone
Jintropin
HCG
Nolvadex
How much should i expect to gain with this ?
Start a new cycle a few weeks after you get a blood test that shows your hormones are normal.
Perfect cycle? ha. There are dozens of ‘perfect cycles’. The only real answer to that is “it depends”