AZ Immigration Law Signed

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Interesting commentary.

The 9th Circuit court used protests from the Mexican government as part of the opinion for the decision.

As the dissent by Judge Carlos T. Bea eloquently stated, “foreign governments should not be given a “heckler’s veto” to establish preemption by the federal government over the state.”[/quote]

This is why I am curious to see how SCOTUS acts when they see this. The author of this law was really smart crafting it, he knew it would end up in SCOTUS’ hands.

This is a first…a Mexican official (the ambassador to the U.S. no less) defending the cartels as simple “businessmen”. Ambassador Sarukhan was ticked off because the U.S. had the audacity to put the major mexican cartels on the State Departments list of Terrorist Organizations.

http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/04/mexico-ambassad.html

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Interesting commentary.

The 9th Circuit court used protests from the Mexican government as part of the opinion for the decision.

As the dissent by Judge Carlos T. Bea eloquently stated, “foreign governments should not be given a “heckler’s veto” to establish preemption by the federal government over the state.”[/quote]

This is why I am curious to see how SCOTUS acts when they see this. The author of this law was really smart crafting it, he knew it would end up in SCOTUS’ hands. [/quote]

Agreed, that had to be the intent from the beginning.

This is an excellent interview with Vicente Fox it’s about 15 minutes. he makes a lot of great points

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
This is an excellent interview with Vicente Fox it’s about 15 minutes. he makes a lot of great points

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/VicenteFox-Mexico-DrugWar-Cartels/2011/03/22/id/390385[/quote]

He is exactly right comparing our drug laws (specifically marijuana) to prohibition. Legalizing pot would cripple the cartels…CNBC estimated that 60% of the cartels profits were in marijuana.

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
This is an excellent interview with Vicente Fox it’s about 15 minutes. he makes a lot of great points

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/VicenteFox-Mexico-DrugWar-Cartels/2011/03/22/id/390385[/quote]

He is exactly right comparing our drug laws (specifically marijuana) to prohibition. Legalizing pot would cripple the cartels…CNBC estimated that 60% of the cartels profits were in marijuana.[/quote]

I agree with him that a wall would be a waste of money, I also agree America needs to reform our immigration policies especially in RE: to Mexico. If in fact we need them to harvest our crops , lets get a program in place . I personally do not like McCain’s and Kennedy’s proposal

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
This is an excellent interview with Vicente Fox it’s about 15 minutes. he makes a lot of great points

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/VicenteFox-Mexico-DrugWar-Cartels/2011/03/22/id/390385[/quote]

He is exactly right comparing our drug laws (specifically marijuana) to prohibition. Legalizing pot would cripple the cartels…CNBC estimated that 60% of the cartels profits were in marijuana.[/quote]

I agree with him that a wall would be a waste of money, I also agree America needs to reform our immigration policies especially in RE: to Mexico. If in fact we need them to harvest our crops , lets get a program in place . I personally do not like McCain’s and Kennedy’s proposal [/quote]

I don’t like it either, if it were worth a damn it would have been pushed through long ago. But I fail to see the reason in a time of massive unemployment why we so desperately “need” illegal workers to harvest our crops.

Let them become citizens or get work permits or green cards if they want to enjoy the benefits of living and working in the U.S.

The only program that will be tolerated by the Dems will be an amnesty only policy. They will not allow enforcement.

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
This is an excellent interview with Vicente Fox it’s about 15 minutes. he makes a lot of great points

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/VicenteFox-Mexico-DrugWar-Cartels/2011/03/22/id/390385[/quote]

He is exactly right comparing our drug laws (specifically marijuana) to prohibition. Legalizing pot would cripple the cartels…CNBC estimated that 60% of the cartels profits were in marijuana.[/quote]

I agree with him that a wall would be a waste of money, I also agree America needs to reform our immigration policies especially in RE: to Mexico. If in fact we need them to harvest our crops , lets get a program in place . I personally do not like McCain’s and Kennedy’s proposal [/quote]

I don’t like it either, if it were worth a damn it would have been pushed through long ago. But I fail to see the reason in a time of massive unemployment why we so desperately “need” illegal workers to harvest our crops.

Let them become citizens or get work permits or green cards if they want to enjoy the benefits of living and working in the U.S.[/quote]

While I may agree with you at a time of recessions we would not need them , IMO our recession is going to be short lived . I think the farms that employ them need to pay the minimum wage. I have heard they get around it.

We had a hale storm that supposedly did a lot of damage , that is a whole new thread . But any how the laborers that are working for these roofing companies are illegal, I would bet on it. Right now roofing is BOOMING

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
This is an excellent interview with Vicente Fox it’s about 15 minutes. he makes a lot of great points

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/VicenteFox-Mexico-DrugWar-Cartels/2011/03/22/id/390385[/quote]

He is exactly right comparing our drug laws (specifically marijuana) to prohibition. Legalizing pot would cripple the cartels…CNBC estimated that 60% of the cartels profits were in marijuana.[/quote]

I agree with him that a wall would be a waste of money, I also agree America needs to reform our immigration policies especially in RE: to Mexico. If in fact we need them to harvest our crops , lets get a program in place . I personally do not like McCain’s and Kennedy’s proposal [/quote]

I don’t like it either, if it were worth a damn it would have been pushed through long ago. But I fail to see the reason in a time of massive unemployment why we so desperately “need” illegal workers to harvest our crops.

Let them become citizens or get work permits or green cards if they want to enjoy the benefits of living and working in the U.S.[/quote]

While I may agree with you at a time of recessions we would not need them , IMO our recession is going to be short lived . I think the farms that employ them need to pay the minimum wage. I have heard they get around it.

We had a hale storm that supposedly did a lot of damage , that is a whole new thread . But any how the laborers that are working for these roofing companies are illegal, I would bet on it. Right now roofing is BOOMING[/quote]

Jobs that LEGAL people should have.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
This is an excellent interview with Vicente Fox it’s about 15 minutes. he makes a lot of great points

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/VicenteFox-Mexico-DrugWar-Cartels/2011/03/22/id/390385[/quote]

He is exactly right comparing our drug laws (specifically marijuana) to prohibition. Legalizing pot would cripple the cartels…CNBC estimated that 60% of the cartels profits were in marijuana.[/quote]

I agree with him that a wall would be a waste of money, I also agree America needs to reform our immigration policies especially in RE: to Mexico. If in fact we need them to harvest our crops , lets get a program in place . I personally do not like McCain’s and Kennedy’s proposal [/quote]

I don’t like it either, if it were worth a damn it would have been pushed through long ago. But I fail to see the reason in a time of massive unemployment why we so desperately “need” illegal workers to harvest our crops.

Let them become citizens or get work permits or green cards if they want to enjoy the benefits of living and working in the U.S.[/quote]

While I may agree with you at a time of recessions we would not need them , IMO our recession is going to be short lived . I think the farms that employ them need to pay the minimum wage. I have heard they get around it.

We had a hale storm that supposedly did a lot of damage , that is a whole new thread . But any how the laborers that are working for these roofing companies are illegal, I would bet on it. Right now roofing is BOOMING[/quote]

Jobs that LEGAL people should have. [/quote]

You are preaching to the choir

Managers at a McDonalds selling ID papers from U.S. Citizens, so they can be used by illegals to get hired.

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpps/news/mcdonalds-managers-charged-with-selling-stolen-ids-dpgonc-20110413-kh_12755014

I wonder how the credit ratings and tax issues for those folks are doing after being used by illegals?

http://www.azcentral.com/community/ahwatukee/articles/2011/04/14/20110414arizona-shooting-desert-pinal-county-vekol-valley-abrk.html

Shooting today in Pinal County, AZ involving illegal aliens.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
http://www.azcentral.com/community/ahwatukee/articles/2011/04/14/20110414arizona-shooting-desert-pinal-county-vekol-valley-abrk.html

Shooting today in Pinal County, AZ involving illegal aliens.[/quote]

The border is SECURE!!! nanananananananananananananananana

/Napolitano’d

Why can’t they pass a law that revokes citizenship of people who hire illegals and incorporated status of companies that hire them?

Or has that been proposed?

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
Why can’t they pass a law that revokes citizenship of people who hire illegals and incorporated status of companies that hire them?

Or has that been proposed?[/quote]

The 14th Amendment is currently being challenged, but for illegal alien kids who are born here, not employers.

Georgia passed a law very similar to Arizona, it’s a little tougher but they passed it. Alot of other states are waiting to see how SCOTUS rules on this, should the law be upheld, you have probably 20 states that want to pass something similar.

Georgia is the next state to pass an AZ style law, almost word for word.

http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-lawmakers-pass-illegal-909988.html?cxtype=rss_news_128746

Nothing like giving the human/drug smugglers a 8 lane highway into the U.S. that the government bans anybody from patrolling.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2011/apr/border-patrol-banned-top-smuggler-routes

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Nothing like giving the human/drug smugglers a 8 lane highway into the U.S. that the government bans anybody from patrolling.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2011/apr/border-patrol-banned-top-smuggler-routes[/quote]

Didn’t you get the memo, Obama is trying to get reelected and since he didn’t get an amnesty passed, he is trying to secure the mythical Latino vote.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Nothing like giving the human/drug smugglers a 8 lane highway into the U.S. that the government bans anybody from patrolling.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2011/apr/border-patrol-banned-top-smuggler-routes[/quote]

Didn’t you get the memo, Obama is trying to get reelected and since he didn’t get an amnesty passed, he is trying to secure the mythical Latino vote. [/quote]

LOL…you have to bet that the GOP is going to harp all over the latino crime rate and how much it is costing us to support them.

It is going to be the one albatross around his neck in 12’