Australia Has $16 Minimum Wage and is the Only Rich Country to Dodge The Global REcession

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Ya my favorite parts were:

I can’t work 2 jobs
I won’t work another fast food job
I have 4 kids with dead beat dads

Now 1 kid at 17 I get, young people make mistakes, but 3 more mistakes of that magnitude, seriously… [/quote]

Those were good, but my favorite was:

Why does he send you home?

I guess the man doesn’t like me. I mean, I’m not sure. I do everything I’m supposed to do there, and then they turn around and say I have to go home. A couple weeks ago I came in late, and I let him know I came in late. And I didn’t get my whole four good hours. All I got was two hours. And the person that came before me was supposed to go home but he sent me home. The person that came in first should go home, but he sent me home, and I came in late.

Translation: The person who does what he or she is supposed to should be punished by being sent home early so that I can make the same amount after coming in late. I came in late so he or she should have to leave early.

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[quote]NickViar wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Ya my favorite parts were:

I can’t work 2 jobs
I won’t work another fast food job
I have 4 kids with dead beat dads

Now 1 kid at 17 I get, young people make mistakes, but 3 more mistakes of that magnitude, seriously… [/quote]

Those were good, but my favorite was:

Why does he send you home?

I guess the man doesn’t like me. I mean, I’m not sure. I do everything I’m supposed to do there, and then they turn around and say I have to go home. A couple weeks ago I came in late, and I let him know I came in late. And I didn’t get my whole four good hours. All I got was two hours. And the person that came before me was supposed to go home but he sent me home. The person that came in first should go home, but he sent me home, and I came in late.

Translation: The person who does what he or she is supposed to should be punished by being sent home early so that I can make the same amount after coming in late. I came in late so he or she should have to leave early. [/quote]

Yep, this mentality of people should bend over backwards and do everything to accommodate me even though I am a fuck up and have made terrible choices REPEATEDLY. But it is on everyone else to figure it out. Not me, everyone else. Because you know I have a tough life and 4 kids, so I should be treated differently and taken care of.

What needs to happen is we need to start letting these people who have no self respect and a sense of entitlement starve. Let them start starving and not getting any help and they will either 1. Take responsibility for their actions, work, and stop doing stupid shit 2. Die. It is their choice.

Now, with that being said I have NO PROBLEM lending a helping hand to someone who comes to me and says, “You know I have really fucked up and done things wrong, but I want to change and I need some help to do that. Please help me and get me on the right track and I will do whatever it takes.” I would instantly help this person as much as I could.

But with this bitch, I say kill it with fire.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
So if you compare the top 10 here

http://minimum-wage.findthedata.org/

with were they rank here:

http://bber.unm.edu/econ/us-pci.htm

I’m not so sure the min wage is all that important. [/quote]

It’s doesn’t matter Beans, it’s just not fair. I mean take this story for example. That poor girl is just being screwed by the system. Her own choices aren’t at all a part of the problem…

http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2013/07/19/how-she-lives-on-minimum-wage-one-mcdonalds-workers-budget/[/quote]

Four kids with deadbeat dads.

Here is an idea…STOP HAVING UNPROTECTED SEX.

Or keep your legs shut.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
So if you compare the top 10 here

http://minimum-wage.findthedata.org/

with were they rank here:

http://bber.unm.edu/econ/us-pci.htm

I’m not so sure the min wage is all that important. [/quote]

It’s doesn’t matter Beans, it’s just not fair. I mean take this story for example. That poor girl is just being screwed by the system. Her own choices aren’t at all a part of the problem…

http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2013/07/19/how-she-lives-on-minimum-wage-one-mcdonalds-workers-budget/[/quote]

Four kids with deadbeat dads.

Here is an idea…STOP HAVING UNPROTECTED SEX.

Or keep your legs shut.[/quote]

But it is their right to have sex, and it their right for us to pay for those kids.

You want people to stop having kids then stop giving them money. Make them work at minimum wage. this will get them out of the house and give them something to do instead of breeding. All types of Welfare payments should be less than minimum wage (period).

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^ Must be nice to only work 20 hours a week…

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
^ Must be nice to only work 20 hours a week…[/quote]

Or not work at all.

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[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
^ Must be nice to only work 20 hours a week…[/quote]

Or not work at all.[/quote]

True story.

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I don’t have time to look for a job because I work 5 days a week. But then he cuts my days back to 2 or 3, but I didn’t mention that when I was talking about looking for a job because that would suggest that I wasn’t trying very hard. I was homeless with a kid so the best course of action in that situation for me seemed to be having 3 more. And this is supposed to make us feel sorry for her because she is being held down by the lower minimum wage.

Agreed with the above on:
Refuses to work another fast food job

Late to work and then wonders why she doesn’t get a full day (maybe that’s why her hours fluctuate; she isn’t there to work them)

Has four kids (should get no govt assistance for these as I really believe that if you are receiving assistance for one and you have a second then you should be given the option to have your tubes tied and get reduced assistance for both or have it cut out all together)

She’s pretty damn lucky if you ask me, to live in a country where you don’t have to work to live. You can just exist.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I don’t have time to look for a job because I work 5 days a week. But then he cuts my days back to 2 or 3, but I didn’t mention that when I was talking about looking for a job because that would suggest that I wasn’t trying very hard. I was homeless with a kid so the best course of action in that situation for me seemed to be having 3 more. And this is supposed to make us feel sorry for her because she is being held down by the lower minimum wage.

Agreed with the above on:
Refuses to work another fast food job

Late to work and then wonders why she doesn’t get a full day (maybe that’s why her hours fluctuate; she isn’t there to work them)

Has four kids (should get no govt assistance for these as I really believe that if you are receiving assistance for one and you have a second then you should be given the option to have your tubes tied and get reduced assistance for both or have it cut out all together)

She’s pretty damn lucky if you ask me, to live in a country where you don’t have to work to live. You can just exist.[/quote]

But if she just made $16/hr her problems would go away…

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

But if she just made $16/hr her problems would go away…[/quote]

If they didn’t, he would want to mandate that she be offered a 40 hour work week.

Because according to the left, a job is a right.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

But if she just made $16/hr her problems would go away…[/quote]

If they didn’t, he would want to mandate that she be offered a 40 hour work week.

Because according to the left, a job is a right. [/quote]

I don’t know if the left considers a job a right or if they just consider a paycheck a right.

If they raised it to $16 an hour and she miraculously managed to keep her job, the only think that would mean would be that she would only work about half her shifts because that was all that was necessary. Her concept on late employees just goes to show that this girl has zero concept of what a job is actually supposed to be like. She understands nothing about grown up life because she never has and probably never will.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

I don’t know if the left considers a job a right or if they just consider a paycheck a right.

.[/quote]

This is (or was, I had to stop going there due to the stupid) consistently posted on the “being liberal” facebook page.

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You’re wasting you time Push. Zep will wait for this thread to blow over and be a distant memory before beginning his bull shit again. I mean the guy proved himself wrong a page ago and it turns out Australia’s economy is rate very free due to among other things deregulation the exact opposite of what Zep is after. What a joke.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
You’re wasting you time Push. Zep will wait for this thread to blow over and be a distant memory before beginning his bull shit again. I mean the guy proved himself wrong a page ago and it turns out Australia’s economy is rate very free due to among other things deregulation the exact opposite of what Zep is after. What a joke. [/quote]
The whole premise of this thread is to disprove that raising minimum wage costs jobs. As we can see it does not.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
Let’s try this again, Zeppy, my dear, darling dancing queen:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

Since no one is advocating this it is a dumb-ass fantasy question. Why don’t you consider a minimum wage of $4/hr. since they will be able to hire more people? All people are saying is that if the Aussie’s can do it why can’t the states? 12/hr. is what the Aussie’s make when other factors are considered. Why can’t this be offered in the states?[/quote]

What makes it a dumb-ass fantasy question? Tell me.

Why wouldn’t it work? Tell me.[/quote]
Please explain to me why raising minimum wage to the purchasing power it had back in the late 60’s is something you are against?

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
You’re wasting you time Push. Zep will wait for this thread to blow over and be a distant memory before beginning his bull shit again. I mean the guy proved himself wrong a page ago and it turns out Australia’s economy is rate very free due to among other things deregulation the exact opposite of what Zep is after. What a joke. [/quote]
The whole premise of this thread is to disprove that raising minimum wage costs jobs. As we can see it does not.[/quote]

We can see that where, in Australia?

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Please address this Zep:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

“Australia?s economic freedom score is 82.6, making its economy the 3rd freest in the 2013 Index.”

“Since the early 1980s, successive Labor and Liberal governments have deregulated financial and labor markets and reduced trade barriers.”

" Australia is one of the Asia?Pacific?s richest countries and has enjoyed economic expansion for over two decades."

“Australia?s regulatory environment, one of the world?s most transparent and efficient, is highly conducive to entrepreneurship. It takes only two days to launch a business. The labor market remains flexible, and unemployment is a relatively low 5 percent.”

America Vs. Australia

I’ve completely changed my mind, let’s model our economy after Australia’s. Let’s start with deregulation of the financial sector and regulatory transparency. Then we’ll talk about minimum wage. [/quote]

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
It’s called a REREDISTRIBUTION and yes it will have a negative effect on the people riding their employees like ponies . If you need employees you should be able to fund a acceptable standard of living. The Federal Government should have to subsidize no employer’s employees [/quote]

Or perhaps the individual can present a skill set that is valuable to employers to pay for. I am all for protecting the employee, but I don’t believe in people being forced to pay top dollar for shit labor either.

And comparing the Australian economy to the U.S. economy is like comparing a sailboat to an aircraft carrier. Our economy covers a lot of costs for a lot of countries, enabling them to socialize in ways we could never. You let every country fend for themselves totally and independently and see what they provide for their citizens.