Atheism-o-Phobia Part 3

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

Didn’t want to start a new thread. Question: Could God name the highest number?
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Could God microwave a Burrito so hot that he Himself couldn’t touch it?[/quote]

Not exactly a redressing of the big rock question. Moreso “Are things that seem impossible to us possible to God, because we lack the ability to understand things (such as the concept of a highest number)”[/quote]There are things that, as far as we know are impossible for God, like sin for instance. God cannot sin, cannot lie, cannot be deceived, cannot fail at anything He earnestly desires and cannot violate His own nature fr instance.[/quote]

And cannot let anyone into heaven who has not accepted the great sacrifice of his son, Jesus Christ.

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[quote]Magicpunch wrote:

Basically, a very powerful human-like character. It didn’t stop me obeying/worshipping him since I was happy to shirk eating pork if it meant I would get to go to heaven, or not be burned.[/quote]

Yeah as long as it’s just pork, can’t blame you there, as that’s easy.

He’s still capable of both. When some people walk away from their faith they mistakenly think that because they no longer believe that God is no longer there. Reminds me of a two year old who hides his face and he thinks you can’t see him because he can no longer see you. Don’t get me wrong here the difference in intelligence between God and myself is far, far greater than the difference between a 2 year old and an adult. As God is the infinite source of wisdom.

It is easier when you can put God in a box. Most atheist that I’ve talked to cannot wrap their arms around something so large, but no one can. That’s where faith comes in. And the Bible is filled with scripture which speaks to his omnipotents.

[quote]Btw. God can’t lie, you say - what if he lied to, say, another god to protect some dude who hadn’t done something wrong? A kind of good lie.
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Once again the Bible is very clear that there are no other Gods.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]swoleupinya wrote:

Holy crap, Zeb.

You are so far off base here. I’m kind of embarrassed for you.
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Bla bla bla, another atheist siding with his brother. Next time try not to be quite so obvious. You’re not making any more sense here than you did on another thread where you were unable to prove your point. [/quote]

Really?

You mean the thread where I built a solid model for the theory of evolutionary morality without knowing that that theory already existed?

Or, do you mean the one where I didn’t agree with you, so I must not make sense?

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[quote]swoleupinya wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]swoleupinya wrote:

Holy crap, Zeb.

You are so far off base here. I’m kind of embarrassed for you.
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Bla bla bla, another atheist siding with his brother. Next time try not to be quite so obvious. You’re not making any more sense here than you did on another thread where you were unable to prove your point. [/quote]

Really?

You mean the thread where I built a solid model for the theory of evolutionary morality without knowing that that theory already existed?

Or, do you mean the one where I didn’t agree with you, so I must not make sense?[/quote]

Look, you popped in to this thread and you have no idea of the conversation between the two parties involved. All you know is one of them is an atheist and that’s the guy you want to side with. Your about as transparent as a shiny new piece of glass. But I think I know how I can help you better understand this.

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[quote]Makavali wrote:
Can cancer be cured? >>>[/quote]Yes.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]swoleupinya wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]swoleupinya wrote:

Holy crap, Zeb.

You are so far off base here. I’m kind of embarrassed for you.
[/quote]

Bla bla bla, another atheist siding with his brother. Next time try not to be quite so obvious. You’re not making any more sense here than you did on another thread where you were unable to prove your point. [/quote]

Really?

You mean the thread where I built a solid model for the theory of evolutionary morality without knowing that that theory already existed?

Or, do you mean the one where I didn’t agree with you, so I must not make sense?[/quote]

Look, you popped in to this thread and you have no idea of the conversation between the two parties involved. All you know is one of them is an atheist and that’s the guy you want to side with. Your about as transparent as a shiny new piece of glass. But I think I know how I can help you better understand this.

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Maybe I missed something… but you seem like a very suspicious and at a least a tad paranoid man.

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[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

Maybe I missed something… but you seem like a very suspicious and at a least a tad paranoid man.[/quote]

Hmm?, have you been talking about me on other threads? ANSWER ME!

(Come on that was funny :slight_smile:

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

Maybe I missed something… but you seem like a very suspicious and at a least a tad paranoid man.[/quote]

Hmm?, have you been talking about me on other threads? ANSWER ME!

(Come on that was funny :)[/quote]

:slight_smile:

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:
Can cancer be cured? >>>[/quote]Yes.
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If you say by prayer I swear I will punch you.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

Didn’t want to start a new thread. Question: Could God name the highest number?
[/quote]

Could God microwave a Burrito so hot that he Himself couldn’t touch it?[/quote]

Not exactly a redressing of the big rock question. Moreso “Are things that seem impossible to us possible to God, because we lack the ability to understand things (such as the concept of a highest number)”[/quote]There are things that, as far as we know are impossible for God, like sin for instance. God cannot sin, cannot lie, cannot be deceived, cannot fail at anything He earnestly desires and cannot violate His own nature fr instance.[/quote]

And cannot let anyone into heaven who has not accepted the great sacrifice of his son, Jesus Christ.

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In other words, everyone has to have the same religion and religious views as you or else they will be punished for all eternity when they die.

Accurate?

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
<<< In other words, everyone has to have the same religion and religious views as you or else they will be punished for all eternity when they die.

Accurate?[/quote]John 14:5-6[quote]5-Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?” 6-Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. >>>[/quote]1st John 4:1-3[quote] 1-Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2-By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; 3-and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world. >>>[/quote]The Acts of The Apostles 4:10-12[quote]10-let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead-by this name this man stands here before you in good health. 11-"He is the STONE WHICH WAS REJECTED by you, THE BUILDERS, but WHICH BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone. 12-“And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”
[/quote]Religious views don’t save anybody. Being resurrected from the death in which ALL are born and into the life of the crucified and risen Christ does.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
<<< In other words, everyone has to have the same religion and religious views as you or else they will be punished for all eternity when they die.

Accurate?[/quote]John 14:5-6[quote]5-Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?” 6-Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. >>>[/quote]1st John 4:1-3[quote] 1-Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2-By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; 3-and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world. >>>[/quote]The Acts of The Apostles 4:10-12[quote]10-let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead-by this name this man stands here before you in good health. 11-"He is the STONE WHICH WAS REJECTED by you, THE BUILDERS, but WHICH BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone. 12-“And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”
[/quote]Religious views don’t save anybody. Being resurrected from the death in which ALL are born and into the life of the crucified and risen Christ does.[/quote]

So it boils down to that jews and muslims will burn in all eternity.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
<<< In other words, everyone has to have the same religion and religious views as you or else they will be punished for all eternity when they die.

Accurate?[/quote]John 14:5-6[quote]5-Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?” 6-Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. >>>[/quote]1st John 4:1-3[quote] 1-Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2-By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; 3-and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world. >>>[/quote]The Acts of The Apostles 4:10-12[quote]10-let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead-by this name this man stands here before you in good health. 11-"He is the STONE WHICH WAS REJECTED by you, THE BUILDERS, but WHICH BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone. 12-“And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”
[/quote]Religious views don’t save anybody. Being resurrected from the death in which ALL are born and into the life of the crucified and risen Christ does.[/quote]

Umm… isn’t that a religious view itself…

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[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
<<< In other words, everyone has to have the same religion and religious views as you or else they will be punished for all eternity when they die.

Accurate?[/quote]John 14:5-6[quote]5-Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?” 6-Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. >>>[/quote]1st John 4:1-3[quote] 1-Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2-By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; 3-and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world. >>>[/quote]The Acts of The Apostles 4:10-12[quote]10-let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead-by this name this man stands here before you in good health. 11-"He is the STONE WHICH WAS REJECTED by you, THE BUILDERS, but WHICH BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone. 12-“And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”
[/quote]Religious views don’t save anybody. Being resurrected from the death in which ALL are born and into the life of the crucified and risen Christ does.[/quote]

So it boils down to that jews and muslims will burn in all eternity.

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No, no! Jews and christians is what I was taught.

PS. And atheists, agnostics, hindus, general polytheits, apostates, shiites, ahmadis, jedis, gays, lesbians, transvestites, abortionists, music listening, dancing, drug-taking infidels in general …

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[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
<<< In other words, everyone has to have the same religion and religious views as you or else they will be punished for all eternity when they die.

Accurate?[/quote]John 14:5-6[quote]5-Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?” 6-Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. >>>[/quote]1st John 4:1-3[quote] 1-Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2-By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; 3-and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world. >>>[/quote]The Acts of The Apostles 4:10-12[quote]10-let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead-by this name this man stands here before you in good health. 11-"He is the STONE WHICH WAS REJECTED by you, THE BUILDERS, but WHICH BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone. 12-“And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”
[/quote]Religious views don’t save anybody. Being resurrected from the death in which ALL are born and into the life of the crucified and risen Christ does.[/quote]

Umm… isn’t that a religious view itself…
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Thank. you.

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You can dress it up all you want Tirib, the fact remains your religion teaches that the only way to avoid eternal punishment is to follow your religion.

If your religion was true, IMO, it wouldn’t have to resort to threats.

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Depends who you ask.

Christian religions 1:
Everyone is going to hell that doesn’t belong to my particular religion, including other so-called Christians who don’t share my particular interpretation of our holy book.

Christian religions 2:
Everyone that believes in Jesus will be saved, even if they don’t belong to my particular religion. Everyone else, no matter how much good they do, will be forever damned.

Christian religions 3:
Everyone that follows the principle of love taught by Jesus will be saved, even if they don’t currently understand that he is their Savior and the origin of the good they do. People who practice hate, regardless of whether or not they recognize Jesus, will be damned.

All believe in the same holy book, yet they disagree vehemently on what is actually required for salvation, because they all interpret it differently. It’s about faith, after all, but if someone’s faith leads them to a contradictory conclusion, that is only because it is a “false” faith.

This is what you get when you encourage people to believe in what they want to be true, instead of having reliable, repeatable evidence for what actually is true.

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[quote]forlife wrote:
Depends who you ask.

Christian religions 1:
Everyone is going to hell that doesn’t belong to my particular religion, including other so-called Christians who don’t share my particular interpretation of our holy book.

Christian religions 2:
Everyone that believes in Jesus will be saved, even if they don’t belong to my particular religion. Everyone else, no matter how much good they do, will be forever damned.

Christian religions 3:
Everyone that follows the principle of love taught by Jesus will be saved, even if they don’t currently understand that he is their Savior and the origin of the good they do. People who practice hate, regardless of whether or not they recognize Jesus, will be damned.

All believe in the same holy book, yet they disagree vehemently on what is actually required for salvation, because they all interpret it differently. It’s about faith, after all, but if someone’s faith leads them to a contradictory conclusion, that is only because it is a “false” faith.

This is what you get when you encourage people to believe in what they want to be true, instead of having reliable, repeatable evidence for what actually is true. [/quote]

This was explained to you maybe 3 times. Human beings are flawed. Just as there are different interpretations to the constitution, but I don’t see anyone blaming our forefathers. Nor do people run around trying to say that the US constitution has no merit - Well some on the far left do that, but I’m talking about relevant Americans.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:
Depends who you ask.

Christian religions 1:
Everyone is going to hell that doesn’t belong to my particular religion, including other so-called Christians who don’t share my particular interpretation of our holy book.

Christian religions 2:
Everyone that believes in Jesus will be saved, even if they don’t belong to my particular religion. Everyone else, no matter how much good they do, will be forever damned.

Christian religions 3:
Everyone that follows the principle of love taught by Jesus will be saved, even if they don’t currently understand that he is their Savior and the origin of the good they do. People who practice hate, regardless of whether or not they recognize Jesus, will be damned.

All believe in the same holy book, yet they disagree vehemently on what is actually required for salvation, because they all interpret it differently. It’s about faith, after all, but if someone’s faith leads them to a contradictory conclusion, that is only because it is a “false” faith.

This is what you get when you encourage people to believe in what they want to be true, instead of having reliable, repeatable evidence for what actually is true. [/quote]

This was explained to you maybe 3 times. Human beings are flawed. Just as there are different interpretations to the constitution, but I don’t see anyone blaming our forefathers. Nor do people run around trying to say that the US constitution has no merit - Well some on the far left do that, but I’m talking about relevant Americans. [/quote]

FAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.

Zeb, please stop making posts like the above, its impossible to take you seriously.

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:
Depends who you ask.

Christian religions 1:
Everyone is going to hell that doesn’t belong to my particular religion, including other so-called Christians who don’t share my particular interpretation of our holy book.

Christian religions 2:
Everyone that believes in Jesus will be saved, even if they don’t belong to my particular religion. Everyone else, no matter how much good they do, will be forever damned.

Christian religions 3:
Everyone that follows the principle of love taught by Jesus will be saved, even if they don’t currently understand that he is their Savior and the origin of the good they do. People who practice hate, regardless of whether or not they recognize Jesus, will be damned.

All believe in the same holy book, yet they disagree vehemently on what is actually required for salvation, because they all interpret it differently. It’s about faith, after all, but if someone’s faith leads them to a contradictory conclusion, that is only because it is a “false” faith.

This is what you get when you encourage people to believe in what they want to be true, instead of having reliable, repeatable evidence for what actually is true. [/quote]

This was explained to you maybe 3 times. Human beings are flawed. Just as there are different interpretations to the constitution, but I don’t see anyone blaming our forefathers. Nor do people run around trying to say that the US constitution has no merit - Well some on the far left do that, but I’m talking about relevant Americans. [/quote]

FAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.

Zeb, please stop making posts like the above, its impossible to take you seriously.[/quote]

Please explain specifically why you disagree with.

Thank you,

Zeb