[quote]tnationer wrote:
I know T-Nation loves these threads so I thought I would add to GAL.
have another acct but wanted to make another one.
cliffnotes: Asking out older chick at gym
-im 21
-girl is 23 or could be 24 going on 25
-we’ve only talked twice briefly
-she’s newly single
my plan of action is to just go up to her and be really forward with her. Ask if I could take her out sometime for a drink. Like I’ve said we have talked very briefly and I know she just became single because someone told me. Figure its my time. She is older but from what I have heard about her I like. we dont go at the same time so I never have much time to start a convo and I go to the gym to lift not socialize so this will be a first.
Anybody here ever ask out an older girl at the gym?
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Haven’t read the thread, nor do I care to sift through ten pages of arguing, but it’s been a while since I answered one of these.
First of all, get over the “older woman” thing - it’s not like she’s 37 or anything. You guys are well within a “normal” dating range and will share most, if not all, cultural commonalities.
Asking a woman out is SIMPLE. It’s not EASY, but it is very very simple. First, you have to arrange to be in the same room/location as her. Then you have to put one foot in front of the other, heading in her direction. Since you’ve already met her, you should smile and make eye contact and walk directly toward her. Say, “Hey…, I was planning on doing <<>> on Friday night, care to join me?”
THAT’S IT!
Some finer points:
It doesn’t matter at ALL what the activity is, so long as it doesn’t involve a cemetery (unless you have it on good authority that she’s into that kind of thing). If she’s interested, she’ll say yes.
If she’s NOT interested, she’ll say NO. That’s all. No big deal. It happens. She’ll probably find a way to do it politely. She won’t chop your cock off for asking her out or anything. There are MANY reasons other than “she’s not attracted to you” for her to say no. She will most likely find your “fearless approach” intriguing to some degree and it will most likely raise your perceived status in her eyes.
Make sure your approach IS fearless. Seriously, don’t approach her in a wishywashy manner. Good posture, good tonality in your voice, and EXPECT her to say yes when you ask. I mean, you’re a good looking guy with your shit together, right? She’d be LUCKY to have a date with you.
If she really isn’t available on Friday, but still wants to see you, she’ll find a way to let you know that. It MAY be subtle or seem insignificant after you hear ,“I can’t… blah blah blah”, but don’t turn your ears off after your initial perceived rejection - she may drop a, “but let’s do it another time” in there and if you’ve gotten emotionally attached to an outcome that hasn’t materialized yet, you may miss it.
She may shit test you. If she’s hot, she will most likely try to throw you some kind of curve ball to see how you handle it. If you handle it well, you’ll probably be fucking her within the week. If you handle it poorly then she’s out of your league at this point in your evolution. The best way to handle it is with amusement and humor. Say, “well I’ve NEVER heard THAT one before”, either genuinely or sarcastically depending on the stupid bullshit she throws at you. But don’t go all bitchy and clingy and slink away with your tail between your legs. Be a man. If she’s rude, exit with grace. If she continues to shit test you, call her on in. But don’t let her manipulate you into putting her on a pedestal. If you do that, the game is over, and she won.
No matter WHAT the answer to the question is, keep it short, exchange numbers if she says yes, and get the fuck outta there. Don’t offer to call her the day before to confirm or give her ANY “window of opportunity” to weasel out of it - that’s just your low self esteem talking. Simply say, “Cool, well I’ll pick you up at 8:00 PM, text me your address an hour before that”. Smile and say, “It’ll be fun, see you Friday” and as you turn to walk away, look at her in a slightly suspicious way and say, “You don’t have any food allergies or weird phobias that I need to be aware of do you?” Act as if she MIGHT be a pain in the ass and that you might be second guessing yourself by asking HER (instead of all the other options in your queue).
Have fun. ACTUALLY HAVE FUN. Seriously. Enjoy it. Genuinely enjoy yourself and the interaction. If she’s annoying or a high maintenance bitch, find another object of your affection. Asking someone out or “courting them” is journey with sex as the final destination. It’s a mating dance. It has many phases and steps. ENJOY the process. Don’t rush it. Be confident of the outcome. Wear condoms.
If it doesn’t work out with this one, I’ll bet that there are PLENTY of single, available women within your various social circles. Don’t put all the pressure on THIS particular one. If it happens, great, if not, oh well, NEXT!
My .02
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