Asking a Girl Out

[quote]rds63799 wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Meh

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Off topic, but when did everyone one the internet become old Yiddish people?

The only time I’ve ever heard that was when my bubbie and her old dominoe buddies were disgusted/bored about something.[/quote]

Oi! What meshugganah is this?

Everyone on the internet becomes old Yiddish people he says. Oi![/quote]

My bubbie also used to say, “if you can’t say anything nice about a person, say it in Yiddish.”

You know, women be like potatoes. You never really know what’s underneath that skin.

Some might have some bad spots on the outside, but once you peel em, they’re perfect and delcious.

Or at the same token, one might look wonderful on the outside, but be all browny/purply on the inside.

WHAT LIES BENEATH.!
Why be afraid to peel? If you have a peeler, just peel. Who cares if you have to throw one or two away and you waste your time? Shit, you might even have to go through a whole BAG.

But there are good ones out there, I know there are…

[quote]orion wrote:
In fact, your comparison is awesome, because a lot of guys go full beta once they are in a relationship, because they think their work is done.[/quote]

Good point.

Its perhaps wrong to blame these ‘one-and-done’ types for their ignorance on this but that don’t make it any less damaging.

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
You know, women be like potatoes. You never really know what’s underneath that skin.

Some might have some bad spots on the outside, but once you peel em, they’re perfect and delcious.

Or at the same token, one might look wonderful on the outside, but be all browny/purply on the inside.

WHAT LIES BENEATH.!
Why be afraid to peel? If you have a peeler, just peel. Who cares if you have to throw one or two away and you waste your time? Shit, you might even have to go through a whole BAG.

But there are good ones out there, I know there are…[/quote]

That’s the best potato analogy I’ve ever heard.

Although, last time I peeled a woman, I got off the hook due to insufficient evidence. Never again.

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
You know, women be like potatoes. You never really know what’s underneath that skin.

Some might have some bad spots on the outside, but once you peel em, they’re perfect and delcious.

Or at the same token, one might look wonderful on the outside, but be all browny/purply on the inside.

WHAT LIES BENEATH.!
Why be afraid to peel? If you have a peeler, just peel. Who cares if you have to throw one or two away and you waste your time? Shit, you might even have to go through a whole BAG.

But there are good ones out there, I know there are…[/quote]

Preach, woman. Fucking Preach!!

And the same can be said about men. But I’d use cucumbers as analogy; long cucumbers, short cucumbers, curved cucumbers, siamese cucumbers, purple cucumbers,… yada yada yada…

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
I love how all threads about girls turn into everyone arguing with orion[/quote]
Are you a sadist?

How do you love that?[/quote]

I think from your perspective that would make him a masochist?[/quote]

Meh

All this has just made GAL sad and stupid.

I miss the good old days when people kept their arguing to PWI [/quote]

I was being ironic.

It sucks[/quote]

It always irritates me that they never came up with a phrase specifically for the sarcastic application of “I love how/when/what…” It always gets misinterpreted, if there’s one thing that should be more common in general vocabulary, it’s that.[/quote]

What’s wrong with “I don’t like when…”?

I mean, sure, passive-aggression is great and all, but sometimes it can be misinterpreted for the clear, direct communication it’s not.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
I love how all threads about girls turn into everyone arguing with orion[/quote]
Are you a sadist?

How do you love that?[/quote]

I think from your perspective that would make him a masochist?[/quote]

Meh

All this has just made GAL sad and stupid.

I miss the good old days when people kept their arguing to PWI [/quote]

I was being ironic.

It sucks[/quote]

It always irritates me that they never came up with a phrase specifically for the sarcastic application of “I love how/when/what…” It always gets misinterpreted, if there’s one thing that should be more common in general vocabulary, it’s that.[/quote]

What’s wrong with “I don’t like when…”?

I mean, sure, passive-aggression is great and all, but sometimes it can be misinterpreted for the clear, direct communication it’s not.
[/quote]

Exactly, but being blunt about it doesn’t have the kind of ring to it that sarcasm does, it’s just plain and innately drab. I feel like it needs a specified subtle telling point that gives it away for non-verbal communication, so we don’t have to go into that obnoxious explanation that it was indeed X and here’s Y.

Besides I’m British, sarcasm is in my nature and I try to use it every chance I can get.

[quote]rds63799 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
I love how all threads about girls turn into everyone arguing with orion[/quote]
Are you a sadist?

How do you love that?[/quote]

I think from your perspective that would make him a masochist?[/quote]

Meh

All this has just made GAL sad and stupid.

I miss the good old days when people kept their arguing to PWI [/quote]

I was being ironic.

It sucks[/quote]

I dip into an Orion-centric thread now and again just for the entertainment value. If you really think it sucks you’ve missed moments of pure hilarity.

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

I don’t think an exceptional woman would tolerate orion’s views. I would imagine that he is limited to the self-loathing ones, which is unfortunate for both of them, as it simply reinforces each of them in their beliefs.[/quote]

That sounds bad. Like a downward spiral of self fulfilling prophecy.
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He just wants to be loved for his personality.

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Meh

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Off topic, but when did everyone one the internet become old Yiddish people?

The only time I’ve ever heard that was when my bubbie and her old dominoe buddies were disgusted/bored about something.[/quote]

Lol, I steal whatever I can my friend.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Meh

[/quote]

Off topic, but when did everyone one the internet become old Yiddish people?

The only time I’ve ever heard that was when my bubbie and her old dominoe buddies were disgusted/bored about something.[/quote]

Lol, I steal whatever I can my friend.[/quote]

In that case, your ancestry must stretch back to Liverpool.

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Meh

[/quote]

Off topic, but when did everyone one the internet become old Yiddish people?

The only time I’ve ever heard that was when my bubbie and her old dominoe buddies were disgusted/bored about something.[/quote]

Lol, I steal whatever I can my friend.[/quote]

In that case, your ancestry must stretch back to Liverpool.[/quote]
Im a mutt, dont even know my sperm donors side of the family, but every culture has its “Gold” thats worth taking into my vocabulary and beliefs

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Meh

[/quote]

Off topic, but when did everyone one the internet become old Yiddish people?

The only time I’ve ever heard that was when my bubbie and her old dominoe buddies were disgusted/bored about something.[/quote]

Lol, I steal whatever I can my friend.[/quote]

In that case, your ancestry must stretch back to Liverpool.[/quote]
Im a mutt, dont even know my sperm donors side of the family, but every culture has its “Gold” thats worth taking into my vocabulary and beliefs [/quote]

Trust me I’ve been to Liverpool, all it has is tin cans and rusted hubcaps.

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Meh

[/quote]

Off topic, but when did everyone one the internet become old Yiddish people?

The only time I’ve ever heard that was when my bubbie and her old dominoe buddies were disgusted/bored about something.[/quote]

Lol, I steal whatever I can my friend.[/quote]

In that case, your ancestry must stretch back to Liverpool.[/quote]
Im a mutt, dont even know my sperm donors side of the family, but every culture has its “Gold” thats worth taking into my vocabulary and beliefs [/quote]

Trust me I’ve been to Liverpool, all it has is tin cans and rusted hubcaps.[/quote]
Awesome Hillbilly’s be everywhere we rock

[quote]tnationer wrote:
I know T-Nation loves these threads so I thought I would add to GAL.

have another acct but wanted to make another one.

cliffnotes: Asking out older chick at gym

-im 21
-girl is 23 or could be 24 going on 25
-we’ve only talked twice briefly
-she’s newly single

my plan of action is to just go up to her and be really forward with her. Ask if I could take her out sometime for a drink. Like I’ve said we have talked very briefly and I know she just became single because someone told me. Figure its my time. She is older but from what I have heard about her I like. we dont go at the same time so I never have much time to start a convo and I go to the gym to lift not socialize so this will be a first.

Anybody here ever ask out an older girl at the gym?

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Haven’t read the thread, nor do I care to sift through ten pages of arguing, but it’s been a while since I answered one of these.

First of all, get over the “older woman” thing - it’s not like she’s 37 or anything. You guys are well within a “normal” dating range and will share most, if not all, cultural commonalities.

Asking a woman out is SIMPLE. It’s not EASY, but it is very very simple. First, you have to arrange to be in the same room/location as her. Then you have to put one foot in front of the other, heading in her direction. Since you’ve already met her, you should smile and make eye contact and walk directly toward her. Say, “Hey…, I was planning on doing <<>> on Friday night, care to join me?”

THAT’S IT!

Some finer points:

It doesn’t matter at ALL what the activity is, so long as it doesn’t involve a cemetery (unless you have it on good authority that she’s into that kind of thing). If she’s interested, she’ll say yes.

If she’s NOT interested, she’ll say NO. That’s all. No big deal. It happens. She’ll probably find a way to do it politely. She won’t chop your cock off for asking her out or anything. There are MANY reasons other than “she’s not attracted to you” for her to say no. She will most likely find your “fearless approach” intriguing to some degree and it will most likely raise your perceived status in her eyes.

Make sure your approach IS fearless. Seriously, don’t approach her in a wishywashy manner. Good posture, good tonality in your voice, and EXPECT her to say yes when you ask. I mean, you’re a good looking guy with your shit together, right? She’d be LUCKY to have a date with you.

If she really isn’t available on Friday, but still wants to see you, she’ll find a way to let you know that. It MAY be subtle or seem insignificant after you hear ,“I can’t… blah blah blah”, but don’t turn your ears off after your initial perceived rejection - she may drop a, “but let’s do it another time” in there and if you’ve gotten emotionally attached to an outcome that hasn’t materialized yet, you may miss it.

She may shit test you. If she’s hot, she will most likely try to throw you some kind of curve ball to see how you handle it. If you handle it well, you’ll probably be fucking her within the week. If you handle it poorly then she’s out of your league at this point in your evolution. The best way to handle it is with amusement and humor. Say, “well I’ve NEVER heard THAT one before”, either genuinely or sarcastically depending on the stupid bullshit she throws at you. But don’t go all bitchy and clingy and slink away with your tail between your legs. Be a man. If she’s rude, exit with grace. If she continues to shit test you, call her on in. But don’t let her manipulate you into putting her on a pedestal. If you do that, the game is over, and she won.

No matter WHAT the answer to the question is, keep it short, exchange numbers if she says yes, and get the fuck outta there. Don’t offer to call her the day before to confirm or give her ANY “window of opportunity” to weasel out of it - that’s just your low self esteem talking. Simply say, “Cool, well I’ll pick you up at 8:00 PM, text me your address an hour before that”. Smile and say, “It’ll be fun, see you Friday” and as you turn to walk away, look at her in a slightly suspicious way and say, “You don’t have any food allergies or weird phobias that I need to be aware of do you?” Act as if she MIGHT be a pain in the ass and that you might be second guessing yourself by asking HER (instead of all the other options in your queue).

Have fun. ACTUALLY HAVE FUN. Seriously. Enjoy it. Genuinely enjoy yourself and the interaction. If she’s annoying or a high maintenance bitch, find another object of your affection. Asking someone out or “courting them” is journey with sex as the final destination. It’s a mating dance. It has many phases and steps. ENJOY the process. Don’t rush it. Be confident of the outcome. Wear condoms.

If it doesn’t work out with this one, I’ll bet that there are PLENTY of single, available women within your various social circles. Don’t put all the pressure on THIS particular one. If it happens, great, if not, oh well, NEXT!

My .02

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He who cares least wins.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
He who cares least wins.[/quote]

Asexuals FTW!

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
He who cares least wins.[/quote]

This is one of the most understated ideas in all of relationship talk.

Pure truth, well said DB.

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Meh

[/quote]

Off topic, but when did everyone one the internet become old Yiddish people?

The only time I’ve ever heard that was when my bubbie and her old dominoe buddies were disgusted/bored about something.[/quote]

Oi! What meshugganah is this?

Everyone on the internet becomes old Yiddish people he says. Oi![/quote]

My bubbie also used to say, “if you can’t say anything nice about a person, say it in Yiddish.”[/quote]

For as far back as I can remember, my dad used to tell me… “Max, le donne sono le stesse quando stanno orizontale”

(Women are all the same when they are horizontal)

In other words, don’t get married because of some good pussy, but because she is a good person and wants to help build a household/family with you. Then he poured me a shot of grappa.

So where is OP, what happened???