Asking a Girl Out

In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed girl is Queen, and the lucid guy is a poor, ignorant fool.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:
Jeez, O, remember the good old days when you and me fought about the Iraq war, and nobody outside of PWI knew who you were?

Now you got all kinds of people – even yolo the yoyo – on your case.

I feel kind of bad for you. Really.

Keep the faith; maybe if you’re lucky the US will bomb some other country.[/quote]

Yeah, you know, unlike those amateurs I went through baptism of steel that is PWI, its like fighting toddlers really.

They try to make it as personal and insulting as possible and I am thinking, guys you dont even know who Rainjack is.

Not that this was his MO but even on his worst day, he could do better.

I still believe that Pookie, on of the most respected posters of PWI ever, wrote the Book of Pook, one of the holy books of the PUA community, in my opinion, the best.

In fact, he was so good that other people sifted through years of his threads to compile a codex of his writings, thereby creating it.

Lightweights dont bother me none. [/quote]

Glad to hear that you’re holding up.

I really wish you could just meet an exceptional woman.[/quote]

I don’t think an exceptional woman would tolerate orion’s views. I would imagine that he is limited to the self-loathing ones, which is unfortunate for both of them, as it simply reinforces each of them in their beliefs.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

I don’t think an exceptional woman would tolerate orion’s views. I would imagine that he is limited to the self-loathing ones, which is unfortunate for both of them, as it simply reinforces each of them in their beliefs.[/quote]

That sounds bad. Like a downward spiral of self fulfilling prophecy.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Men are, and always have been in my experience, as interested in serious relationships as women are. I see it in every age group. It’s not because I’m living some sort of gentler-era holdover fantasy.

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Speaking from personal experience, I can attest to this. I think there reaches a point in most men, that the 2-3 times a week of random sex gets almost depressing. A few months before I started dating my wife (which was the only girl that I ever seriously dated) I started to feel really depressed with myself after a night of putting another notch in the bedpost.

I couldnt explain it but I had gotten so sick of the “go out, play the game, go home and sleep with some girl that there was no possible chance of a future with”. I was starting to crave something deeper and knew that what I was doing wasnt what I wanted anymore.

[quote]bpick86 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Men are, and always have been in my experience, as interested in serious relationships as women are. I see it in every age group. It’s not because I’m living some sort of gentler-era holdover fantasy.

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Speaking from personal experience, I can attest to this. I think there reaches a point in most men, that the 2-3 times a week of random sex gets almost depressing… [/quote]

Dat humblebrag.

Pretty sure DBCooper just crushed this thread.

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Men are, and always have been in my experience, as interested in serious relationships as women are. I see it in every age group. It’s not because I’m living some sort of gentler-era holdover fantasy.

[/quote]

Speaking from personal experience, I can attest to this. I think there reaches a point in most men, that the 2-3 times a week of random sex gets almost depressing… [/quote]

Dat humblebrag.[/quote]

Haha ok so maybe if that average held up it would have to emcompass very small sample (about 2 weeks), but I also never said anything about the quality of these girls which makes this far more doable. Good call out by the way. I asked for that.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
And Emily, if a woman ages, it is perfectly ok to dump her, because she has become less attractive…

No?

Why not?

Does this only work in one direction?

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No, it does not. Everyone has a responsibility to maintain health and physical/sexual appeal to the extent they are able. When I was a kid my father (who’d been dumped by my mother) commented that you could always tell when a woman at the office was getting a divorce, because all of a sudden she’d get a haircut, start losing weight, etc. He observed that maybe if they’d done that in the first place, there wouldn’t be a divorce, with which I wholeheartedly agree. It’s equally true of men as well. I see it as a basic truth for all people and couples.

I don’t buy into that it’s only women losing appeal. Dear God, have you seen some of the men out there? I think active, interesting, engaged people maintain appeal, both men and women alike.

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Yeah, but you would be wrong.

Not entirely, because there are women in their 40s, Lord help me, but what matters most in the SMV of a woman is a yout and beauty.

That is no a coincudence either, because her peak fertiliy is between 17-24, so youth and beauty are just fertility markers.

WHat I am saying is that women think a man to be a swine if he goes for younger, hotter, tighter, free, but they are doing the same thing while they can.

They just cant for very long, but those are not only womens but also mens formative years.

Look at it this way.

I had it said to my face that right now I might not do so well but if they were looking for a REAL relationship…

I honestly do believe that she meant it as a compliment, but I did not take it as such.

What she was really saying was that she would have her fun now, with men she does not consider to have serious potential, and I am to wait on the sidelines until she is ready to grace me with her well worn vagina, which I would have had to pay a hefty sum for, while she gave it away for a smile in her prime.

Emily, this is how its played now, and I dont wanna play.

Sure, I can fuck all this reformed skanks, but a real relationship?

How?[/quote]

Orion, with all due respect (truly), what she was saying was that she just wasn’t interested in you. You assign deep evolutionary meaning to a throw-away politeness. What she was saying…ALL she was saying…was “no.”

As for women and their SMV, having read here for a great long while before divorcing, I was set to find myself alone and desperate in its aftermath, given my assumed market shortcomings. I have, as I’ve said a number of times, not found that to be the case at all. Now, I’m only one person, but my concrete experience flatly contradicts your theoreticals. And I am not pursued for sex alone. Men are, and always have been in my experience, as interested in serious relationships as women are. I see it in every age group. It’s not because I’m living some sort of gentler-era holdover fantasy. You need fantasies; I don’t. The real world, warts and all, works for me.

Sure, you can paint all the women as skanks, but for one to want you? You’re going to need some therapy.[/quote]

No, that is not was she was saying.

That girl alone was a goldmine in hindsight, because she would not fuck me because “then I would expect her to be my girlfriend”, she at least understood herself well enough to know that “a guy does to have a little bit of an asshole to get girls” and so further and so on.

Out of all the ones I remember, she is the only one I still respect, because she knew what she was doing, somewhat, and she genuinely tried to tell me whats what.

Women want relationships as much as men, my ass.

Yes they do, after they are done with the bad boys.

Sure, they will tell you that it was all a mistake, that they were so terribly hurt, they learned so much, it made them into who they are (which would be a skank) and now that they are all grown up would you please be so kind as to pay a very high price for her very experienced vagina?

No ho, if I want to do that I hire a professional.

That “ho” was not meant for you, obviously.

And I know that it works, because I can play the bad boy oh so well, a little intellectual arrogance, a little smirk even if what she said was perfectly reasonable, dont greet her, acknowledge her present with a grunt and suddenly she is not asking herself whether you are good enough for her, like she would with any nice guy, no, now she is spinning whether she is good enough for you.

We are back to the same point, I believe what I believe and it works.

Why would it if it had no basis in reality?

I mean you can tell me all you want about how its just because I am bitter, or hurt or whatever but to me it seems like you would critisize an engineer because it does not feel right while his bridge visibly stands, able to bear weight.

[quote]kamui wrote:
In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed girl is Queen, and the lucid guy is a poor, ignorant fool. [/quote]

I dont even want to know what happens to a guy with a map and binoculars.

[quote]Anonymity wrote:
Pretty sure DBCooper just crushed this thread.[/quote]

Pretty sure you’re right.

[quote] orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

Lightweights dont bother me none. [/quote]

Glad to hear that you’re holding up.

I really wish you could just meet an exceptional woman.[/quote]

Hey, they all get a chance…

Anyhow, do you remember Rainjack in a foul mood?

Kiddies think this is a shit storm…

Oh my…

[quote]yolo84 wrote:
“Sleep deprived Fat German goes on murderous rampage in brothel screaming all women must die.”

I expect to read the above or similar somewhere by the end of this year. [/quote]

I know, you think that does not apply to you…

It does, and it will.

When the time comes I want you to know that I forgive you for being a dimwit fuck.

Honestly, I do.

scrolling for the OP

next page…next page

…damn it

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Anonymity wrote:
Pretty sure DBCooper just crushed this thread.[/quote]

Pretty sure you’re right.[/quote]

But you are the one with the self professed personality disorder and blow habit.

In and of itself that is ok, but I neither trust your judgement nor your psychological insights because they are bound to be 2/3 projection.

In fact, the majority of your posts could be interpreted as in what headspace you would be in if you posted what I posted.

That is a mistake to, because I am not fucking insane.

Punch drunk, maybe, but not trying to extract drugs from my own vomit damaged?

Just so that we establish some kind of order here.

Bitch.

DBCooper, you want the PWI rules, you can have them.

Thunderbolt, Pushharder, you name them, they all hit harder than you do.

Which poster on this board does this sound exactly like?

[quote]orion wrote:
DBCooper, you want the PWI rules, you can have them.

Thunderbolt, Pushharder, you name them, they all hit harder than you do.[/quote]

I have no clue what you’re talking about.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Anonymity wrote:
Pretty sure DBCooper just crushed this thread.[/quote]

Pretty sure you’re right.[/quote]

But you are the one with the self professed personality disorder and blow habit.

In and of itself that is ok, but I neither trust your judgement nor your psychological insights because they are bound to be 2/3 projection.

In fact, the majority of your posts could be interpreted as in what headspace you would be in if you posted what I posted.

That is a mistake to, because I am not fucking insane.

Punch drunk, maybe, but not trying to extract drugs from my own vomit damaged?

Just so that we establish some kind of order here.

Bitch.
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Bitch, huh? Sounds to me like I struck a deeply-rooted nerve. Again.

In fact, I’m starting to notice that when I get pretty close to what I assume is a reasonable facsimile of the truth regarding the staggering breadth of nonsensical ramblings you post on here, you start in with the “bitch” and “fuck you” and “fuck off” and “go fuck yourself and die” sort of comments.

And yeah, I suppose you could say I’m projecting. After all, when I was an immature child spewing a bunch of nonsense and people called me out on it, that is exactly how I responded as well. And from what I remember of my long-dormant “blow” days, I recall acting pretty much the exact same way when I was trying to be someone I wasn’t and got called on it also.

So yeah, you’re right. I’m projecting.

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]tnationer wrote:

-she’s newly single

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All I needed to read. Stay away for NOW. Trust me. [/quote]

THIS.

You could very well end up a rebound. If you just want to get-in, get-off, get-out, then that’s ok. Just realize what you are getting into.