Love love travel bro. Going to Thailand for a wedding ![]()
@kd13 do you have some hormone panels I can see?
Ok, Thanks man. That may be the road I take.
@StormCobra84 Iāll be in the Ohio area in spring ![]()
Awesome. Sounds good. Maybe it is possible we run into each other.
Lh 3.1 iu/l
fsh 6.7 iu/l
tsh 2.1miu/l
Prolactin 200mu/l
Testosterone 19.1 nmol/l ref (8-27)
I know these may not be all that useful but they are the only ones I have from when the fertility specialists wanted to check for evidence of sperm production before a surgical sperm retrieval. (Damaged vas)
90% of the time I feel amazing, great mood and energy, raging sex drive and non stop erections. At 32 I feel like a 16 year old. But then every now and again I seem to go through a very short down period with missing morning wood and low mood and irritability (still have raging sex drive though) which may last only a week or so before returning to my normal self. It seems to follow a distinct pattern, like I have a peak and then fall off. It only happens every few months.
Not really sure whatās going on or if the 1 testicle could be an issue. Thanks for any insight.
1.iāve been on TRT for 2 years (85mg test-e twice/week), have done 2 blasts with 440mg/500mg test e/week for 16 weeks each. results were underwhelming, do you think this is due to the fact that my body is already used to external T at a good/high level?
2.Would you recommend stacking something else (only āmild thingsā would be an option, Iām not looking to get on stage, just adding about 10 more pounds of lean muscle) like MK-677 or just go higher with test-e?
tren is not an option, boldenone/EQ (afraid of heart/hermatocrit issues) and deca (prolactine, also I might come off completly in the future to try to have kids) are also not that appealingā¦
3.Do you think it would make sense to go completly off (even of TRT) for a few months, in order do āclearā the receptors? the months would be hell, and I would for sure lose a bit of size, but would it be worth it because the response afterwards would be much better when Iām doing my next blast from 0 then from just cruising at my TRT dose?
- All my bloods are still good, only thing that got significantly worse is HDL. Started at 70, now down to 41 (reference says it should be >45). At the same time my total cholesterol has gone down also from 210 to 155, so the ratio CHOL/HDL is 3,8 and still okay I assume, my doctors was fine with hit.
Interestingly the big fall down from HDL 61 to 41 and also total cholesterol from 200 to 155 was during 3 months this summer where I was slowly tapering down from 500mg/week to 170mg/week⦠What would you suggest to do about HDL?
This isnāt my thread, and I probably shouldnāt be poking around answering questions not directed at me but I felt like I might be able to help.
Unlikely, 170mg to 440-500mg is a very large difference, 170mg isnāt even THAAT high for TRT, Iām gonna be cruising on 200mg for 8-10 months once Iām done my mini blast before I do anything again, 200mg is what I would call a high TRT dose. The reason for underwhelming results could be related to various factors, Iāll list some of them
- Training/ diet, a subpar diet and training routine with gear will only take you so far, to truly get the most out of it you need to train like a beast and eat like a beast, AAS arenāt a magic pill (although theyāre pretty magical)
- Individual drug responses, the amount of muscle mass one will put on from anabolic steroids (at what dose, how much they put on etc) is largely up to genetics and how long one has been training for, if youāve been training for 20+ yrs and youāre at your genetic limit, you canāt expect to get the same results as some moron (like me) who isnāt close to their genetic limit⦠unless I had a really shit response to drugs and you had a Kevin Levrone style response.
- Was the gear pharm grade or UGL, sometimes UGLās can be underdosed, thatās why itās essential to look up reviews on said UGL before using their gear, and even this isnāt foolproof, exit scams, shitty batches and whatnot are always a possibility
Not enough research to determine the safety level of MK677, and MK677 isnāt a SARM, nor is it a peptide, itās a Ghrelin receptor agonist, there is concern as to how it may affect the ability for people to adapt to stress⦠however itās based on one rat study. Anabolic steroids have been hypothesized to be neurotoxic at high concentration, this hypothesis can further be pressed by the findings of structural differences in the brains of AAS users compared to non users, however the studies are small and many were involved in recreational hard drug use, however when factoring out the drug use AAS induced structural changes were still apparent, these changes couldnāt be distinguished by a change in behavior, depression or whatnot. However one study found long term AAS use to impact visuospacial cognitive function, while others didnāt. Anyhow what Iām saying is, Iād stay away from MK677 until more research verifying the safety of the compound is out.
Deca is probably more likely to cause heart issues than EQ, to control hematocrit you can donate blood or opt for therapeutic phlebotomy, not telling you to use EQ, just saying thereās a way around
From a health point of view, no, not worth it. the clearing receptors⦠Sounds brosciency, if youāve been on TRT doses for long enough post blast your body should be at a point of homeostasis, blasting again will be exposing your body to new stimulus, so whatās the point of going off⦠Other than feeling like shit.
Anabolic steroids, even test at supraphysiologic doses, will almost always exert a negative effect on HDL cholesterol and potentially LDL, but for test not usually if one is careful and the dose is sane (for LDL). The extent of negative effect is largely up to genetics, some people can take winny and maintain a good lipid profile and others take test and their HDL drops below 40. Anything above 40 is technically normal so donāt worry, whatās your LDL? Supplements that can help cholesterol are NAC, COQ10, a healthy diet, regular cardiovascular exercise, niacin if you want to simulate menopause (with regards to hot flushes, itās super fun).
yeet, hope this helps in some way
I have this huge bottle of 1-andro (DHEA isomer 1-dehydroepiandrosterone), seriously a ton of it. Im wondering if thereās any benefit to trying it for a few wks, say after my mini blast is over but before I get my bloods. Thereās a tiny paper quoting its effectiveness, it appears far more risky than regular DHEA, however a small paper indicates it may have some anabolic effect. Honestly Iām just bored, I have it and Iām wondering if Iām ever going to use it or if itās a waste of 200+ dollars (got it when I was put on trt, but never used it⦠I probably have enough to use it for 6 months if I wanted to, but I donāt want to use it for that long, Iām just pondering what to do with it and Iām curious if it does anything or if itās BS. Iām actually thinking of throwing out my NPP, no use for it, nor do I ever think Iāll need it in the future
Itās dumb but I figure āitās a DHEA isomer, highly doubt itās going to do that much harmā, question is, is it worth it or do I just chuck it. It converts to similar metabolites, however instead of the end goal being testosterone itās dihydroboldenone, and instead of a first conversion to androstenediol or androstenedione itās 1-androstenedione/ 1-androstenediol.
I donāt intend to cycle again after this for a while, as in probably not for another 8 months or more, not sure why im putting this in here as itās not important though. Iāll just cruise on 200mg of test. I think with my doses and minimal to no time on vastly supraphysiologic doses and my decently healthy lifestyle becides my alcohol consumption which clocks in at one or two beers a week, except for recently where Iāve stopped drinking beer due to the GI index of it, so now zero drinks with occasional times where I get mildly intoxicated, say once every three to four months or so, I can really minimise harm done and live a long and healthy life provided I donāt get hit by a bus walking down the street or get cancer or suddenly die from sudden cardiac death for absolutely no reason or something.
So question is, is it worth a shot?
hi unreal,
I appreciate your input and willigness to help, however, Iād like @physioLojik to answer my questions, this is why I posted them up in this thread.
He has a lot more practical experience, this is what Iām looking for, you on the other hand just provide theoretical knowledge of studies (which Iāve also researched heavily) and your personal VERY limited practical experience.
E.g. Iāve read every study on MK (there have been some human studies as well mate), there wonāt be any more since it has been stopped developing to my knowledge and will never be a FDA approved drug.
In terms of training&diet - Iāve been in the game for 11 years now, came pretty close to my natural limit (6feet, 180lbs, 10%bf, bench 260, DL 405) before I started TRT 2 years ago, so Iād say I know what Iām doing, at least as a natural guy.
Of course my gear is legit mate, its straight from the pharmacy, same stuff I use for TRT.
Yeet, sorry about that I get very bored sometimes, wasnāt my place to respond
Why did they stop developing it? This is a legit question Iām curious
Do you get 500mg prescribed? If so, thatās awesome, how do all these people get this stuff prescribed lol. Iād kill for that. (Not literally)
@john_german @unreal24278 hey there guys. John I can tell you that even without experience everything @unreal24278 said is pretty much right on point.
@unreal24278 I wouldnāt mess with that stuff you have. Just manipulate your test dosage.
Yea I guess Iāll stay away from it (the 1 dhea), Iām not going to manipulate my test dosage though, 250mg/wk is already the most Iāve ever used (the amount Iām currently using), and Iām making nice progress, plus Iām not entirely comfortable going higher. I have to come off in time for bloods, however I could always switch to short estered T before bloods, eh, why bother, prescribed TRT dose is currently 140mg/wk so it isnāt as if Iām going to lose any gains going from 250-140 then back up to 200 for a long period of time, esp if diet and training is good, Iāll continue to make gainzzzz
@physioLojik, if a guy is in a tight spot and doesnāt have access to pharma grade tamoxifen⦠can RC sites tamoxifen be used?
Iāve used RC products alot. Mostly because turnaround time is short and a lot of UGLs have minimums and I dont need to spend a lot just to get some Nolva or whatever.
Iāve had great results with RC letrozole in killing some pea sized gyno. I know a great website but I canāt share due to the rules.
Thanks @studhammer, sometimes I think logik dont like me cause he never responds to me. I think Iām gonna try the rc tamoxifen. I have a friend that uses it and he swears by them
Heās a dr with 2 kids and one on the way. Heāll respond when he can.
Yeah brother. I use RC levitra, RC clen, RC, nolva, and RC prami all from the same place
@alldayeveryday I super like you buddy
Iām sorry Guys i am just crushed right now busy