Do you have any suggestions for those who respond poorly to hcg, Clomid and nolva or are those the only options?
@Hostile hey brother. What do you mean by respond poorly particularly
@unreal24278 anyone who says eq isnāt worth shit has zero idea wtf theyāre saying. Itās an amazing drug. I get harder, leaner, more vascular and definitely hungrier. I have access to every single drug there is. The only drugs Iāll use are test, eq, masteron, REAL primo, and maybe tren (although itās doubtful Iāll ever use it again).
So whatās the benefit one recieves from masteron? I believe I have a mediocre, but nowhere near optimal base knowledge with regards to the pharmokinetics and effects of anabolic steroids (when I compare my knowledge base Iām comparing to the level of knowledge experts like yourself have). But to me drostanolone appears interchangeable with various agents one would use to āharden upā. whatās the difference (physique wise) in someone using primo vs mast or proviron (besides the fact that proviron is broken down by the 3HSD and mast isnāt thus accruation in lean mass would be far more significant from mast compared to proviron). Aside from supposed increase in libido (which is individual, some actually report a decrease in libido from masteron), masteron appears highly androgenic (paper rating doesnāt give it justice), and mildly to moderately anabolic (maybe it causes a somewhat stronger effect on apidocytes than others due to higher AR binding?) If I ever had to pick between the two Iād def say primo (and I have access to legit, pharmaceutical grade primobolan, I just donāt use it or follow up on the fact that itās available to me). The safety profile of both agents (mast and primo) seem favorable though.
So if you had access to metenolone why would you bother with drostanolone?
Is this in absence of changing the way you train and eat, as in the drug itself has such a profound effect on youāre physique that you become vascular without any change in diet, training routine, water intake etc.
Even the exotics like methandriol, mestanolone, (DI)methyltrenbolone (sorry if Iām taking this too literally however Iāve never heard of anyone having access to dimethyltrenā¦ Although I canāt imagine anyone ever wanting to take it, itās probably like powdered liver failure) but you said you have access to every drug
Hcg results in acute edema starting 2 hours post injection, even with as little as 70 ius. Thereās also an increase in blood pressure, difficulty urinating, sleep disruptions, headaches. The symptoms subside 1 week post injection. Ive gone back to it numerous times over the years to reevaluate and itās always the same.
Clomid results in depressive symptoms and doesnāt seem to do very much regarding testicular atrophy.
I like nolva, especially for body comp enhancement, but side effects included vision loss/problems I began to experience, along with depression and insomniaā¦i seem to be pretty sensitive to certain chemicals.
No history of stroke or anything that would lead me to believe that I should worry. But my HCT has been as high as 56 while on trt. I should not freak out about that? I mean, my doctor wasnāt overly concerned, but I also tend to think about the worst case scenario and then work backwards to find a solution that avoids it. But I would love to run the cycle you suggested. Iām just trying to make sure it doesnāt kill me. I mean, Iād take primo and avoid this whole mishegas, but I refuse to inject 5-8ml of oil every week. That seems unpleasant.
are you familiar with post finasteride syndrome?
@joeviv10 yes itās why I have never nor will I ever prescribe it. You donāt want to hear the answers I keep telling you. Time and food. Thatās it.
1 Like
Im worried because 2.5 years have passed and Im not getting any younger. Also I have many similar symptoms and have never heard of someone Genitals going numb and lack of libido in there 20s?I used to laugh and think that was made up , how someone could not get an erection and have no libido?!
Oral primo is always an option. I see weāre adding some Yiddish up in here!!!
1 Like
Hey dude! currently on my 3rd week of PCT (nolva 20mg ED). I have got seriously bad cystic acne in the last 2 weeks on my back and chest, and I am pretty sure itās from 3 weeks of HCG i took at the end of my cycle (just before i started on the nolva) causing my e2 to shoot up!
i need to lower my e2 to get rid of this acne: would you suggest arimidex or aromasin? and if so at what dosage
cheers!
@darego hey man. Donāt use either of them. Give it time.
@unreal24278 it isnāt just us that toss Yiddish around haha
1 Like
Hey guys Iāve had a decent amount if you contact me via email which is totally cool 
Iāll do my best to get to everyone.
When you contact me or (and actually especially here) be prepared to give a few days example of how you eat and what your lifestyle is like (stress work relationship sleep etc). These are HUGE factors that have a major relationship to your protocols. Thanks!
1 Like
@physioLojik thanks for the reply dude! itās getting pretty out of control no matter what soaps or creams i use which is annoying as i am worried about scaring. but i will give it time. i am guessing it will take a few weeks after the end of my PCT for my e2 levels to get back to normal naturally?
@darego welcome man. Absolutely. Worst thing you can do is add more drugs. Itāll set you back a month or so. You can drink organic real cranberry juice to help your liver detox which can help with elimination if circulating hormones.
@physioLojik I will try out the cranberry juice! thank you for your time and wisdom
@physioLojik remember I was complaining about my shoulder. So I think I figured out its not exactly my shoulder. Hereās a pic. It hurts when you push where my thumb and about 2 inches around. It feels like itās the shoulder when it hurts.
I was doing these triceps things on the floor on a bar with my handd behind my back. Could it be from that? My other side hurts too by not nearly as bad.
Donāt be shocked that you donāt see a body builders arm. Am not. I just try to stay in shape. Lol.
Thanks.
What are your thoughts on something like this as an alternative to cranberry juice?
Also, Iām guessing that you donāt feel there are many other options for someone looking for an alternative to hcg, Clomid and nolva?
Are you doing like bench dips but using a bar? Please explain.